From: Mark Probert on
On Dec 29, 1:24 am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 5:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
>
> Posted nothing about the subject.
> Which must mean he thinks these acts are OK.

Do find the post where I address your hallucination which you just
repeated.

January 2, 2010 is fast approaching. There are storm clouds on your
horizon.



From: Peter B on

"Mark Probert" <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c683335e-9672-4a4a-838b-a75d77ae6218(a)l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 28, 11:19 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:685bb61f-0313-456a-ac96-d49a2118c49d(a)r14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 28, 5:17 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 26, 9:20 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > Jan Drew wrote:
> > > > On Dec 26, 9:43 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> > > >> Mark Probert wrote:
> > > >>> On Dec 25, 1:16 am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>>news:dc6e4ef4-fb6f-4951-b56c-4af4b909365f(a)m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>>>> Pediatrician Earl Bradley Accused of Raping Child Patients,
> > > >>>>> Videotaping Acts
> > > >>>>> Delaware State Attorney General's Office Says There May Be
> > > >>>>> 'Hundreds
> > > >>>>> of Victims'
> > > >>>>> More at
> > > >>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/WN/delaware-pediatrician-earl-bradley-accused-s...
> > > >>>> Why are you so infatuated with this kind of stuff?
> > > >>> There are those who "think" that by highlighting the rotten
> > > >>> apples,
> > > >>> they can taint the barrel and show how real medicine is no
> > > >>> good.
> > > >>> It is
> > > >>> a pure form of ad hominem.
> > > >>> This is a common tactic of the alties. There are others who
> > > >>> search
> > > >>> high and low (mainly low) for this kind of article.
> > > >> GIve them a break. The best they can do is personal attacks.
> > > >> They
> > > >> can't
> > > >> get the science right (they say chemotherapy doesn't help most
> > > >> people
> > > >> with cancer, yet, most people with cancer are cured - gee that
> > > >> doesn't
> > > >> add up in people with normal minds). All they can do is tell us
> > > >> we're in
> > > >> the 'gang' and are pharmashills (if I am a shill, but whoever
> > > >> pharma is
> > > >> owes me a lot of money).
>
> > > >> Jeff
>
> > > > The Not dr posted nothing about the subject.
> > > > Guess he thinks it is OK.
>
> > > I wasn't even following the subject until I read the post to which
> > > I
> > > responded.
>
> > > > There was no personal attack. It is in the news that a
> > > > Pediatrician
> > > > Accused of Sexually Abusing Patients.
>
> > > > So you just posted a personal attack, hypocrite.
>
> > > I was commenting on Mark's comments about ad hominem.
>
> > Well, you should have been responding to the subject, not anything
> > Mark posted.
>
> He can post about anything he wants. If you do not like it, do not
> read it.
>
> > Neither are you a dr. You already posted you no longer practice.
>
> So what? He still has his MD degree and he is legally, ethically and
> morally aloowed to call himself Doctor.
>
> You, OTOH, defend fArtie/Frager/Kolnicj/ who was never a doctor but
> impersonated one. That is a crime in most states.
> ========================================================
> " Felix Martin <fe...(a)aracnet.com> (employee of aracnet)wrote:
>
> It is a felony in the State of Oregon to represent yourself as a
> Doctor,
> an Engineer or a Lawyer. It is in our system agreement that aracnet
> will
> be only used for lawful purposes. We do not want to be liable or part
> of
> any deception. As far as I know there are several people in this State
> gathering information for a possible indictment against this person. I
> cannot comment further. This user lied in his application and that by
> itself is grounds enough for termination. He had his opportunity to
> present verifiable information. FYI he has
> been kicked off from other systems."

This was from an email from the Administrator of Aracnet, which was
fArtie/Frager/Kolnick/'s ISP for a while.

> More than likely it is one of the reasons he moved to Washington soon
> after.-

I do believe that Washington also makes it a felony.
===================================================
Yes, bur he stopped calling himself a Dr. Frager before the move. I
won't go so far as to say he hasn't tried another similar nym.


From: Mark Probert on
On Dec 29, 1:27 am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:dc95a92e-adf2-471e-bd16-7a16cf8475b0(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 28, 5:47 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
>
> Time to shut up Mark S Probert.
>
> You diversions are off topic.
> You posted not a word about this terrible sexual molesting, and abuse.
> =========================================================
> You cried the blues when the letter about your abusing children was
> posted.

That was a mistake on my part, and I would appreciate it if you did
not mention it.
From: Jan Drew on
On Dec 29, 1:29�am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:

On Dec 29, 1:16 am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:


> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message


On Dec 28, 5:29 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:


> Jan Drew wrote:
> > On Dec 26, 9:20 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >> Jan Drew wrote:
> <...>
> >> I was commenting on Mark's comments about ad hominem.
> > Well, you should have been responding to the subject, not anything
> > Mark posted.
> Wrong. The discussion in a thread is not limited to the subject.


Only if you are a gang member.


> > Neither are you a dr. You already posted you no longer practice.
> So. I am entitled to use the title until I die. And, then, it will be
> proper to refer to me as the late Dr. Utz.


Proof please


> <garbage deleted>


LOL!! Whasamtter Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, ashamed of you many names
you have used??

Restored:


Neither are you a dr. You already posted you no longer practice.


Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
jeff...(a)juno.com
[2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
Jeff Utz jtest-u...(a)juno.com
Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)juno.com
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)softhome.net Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u...(a)pilot.msu.edu
Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot...(a)hotmail.com
Jeff Utz kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
Jeff jef...(a)pacbell.net
Jeff j...(a)hotmail.com (2007)




From: Mark Probert on
On Dec 29, 5:32 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 29, 1:29 am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 29, 1:16 am, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> On Dec 28, 5:29 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Jan Drew wrote:
> > > On Dec 26, 9:20 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> > >> Jan Drew wrote:
> > <...>
> > >> I was commenting on Mark's comments about ad hominem.
> > > Well, you should have been responding to the subject, not anything
> > > Mark posted.
> > Wrong. The discussion in a thread is not limited to the subject.
>
> Only if you are a gang member.\

Look up the term "thread (or topic) drift". It happens, because
people, unlike you, have open minds.

> > > Neither are you a dr. You already posted you no longer practice.
> > So. I am entitled to use the title until I die. And, then, it will be
> > proper to refer to me as the late Dr. Utz.
>
> Proof please

It is a fact a priori. Look that up.

> > <garbage deleted>
>
> LOL!!  Whasamtter Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, ashamed of you many names
> you have used??

What you post IS garbage.

> Restored:
>
> Neither are you a dr.  You already posted you no longer practice.
>
> Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
> jeff...(a)juno.com
> [2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
> Jeff Utz  jtest-u...(a)juno.com
> Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)juno.com
> Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)softhome.net   Hence "Putz"http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u...(a)pilot.msu.edu
> Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
> Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot...(a)hotmail.com
> Jeff Utz  kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
> Jeff jef...(a)pacbell.net
> Jeff j...(a)hotmail.com (2007)