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From: Carol T on 21 Dec 2006 13:13 Dear Cutelittlecalico, >>>>>>>> I feel like hell tonight, and come here for a bit of support, not to suffer the likes of you 'sharing' YOUR sad beliefs on a grief recovery site. You should be ashamed of yourself.<<<<<<<<< There is no shame for anyone in knowing Jesus, He is the greatest support of all. He is the greatest gift of all time. I am sorry that you feel as you do. May you find the way out of this feeling soon. "Our hearts ache, but we always have joy. We are poor, but we give spiritual riches to others. We own nothing, and yet we have everything." NLT (2Cr 6:10) God Bless Carol T "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isa 9:6
From: Calico on 23 Dec 2006 06:57 No, she's in the right group as it gives me the opportunity to tell her that god and jesus are lower than child rapists. Poor thick, misguided Carol T. You have my deepest sympathy!
From: ML on 2 Jan 2007 15:47 BC wrote: > I have to agree, Carol seems to be in the wrong group!!!! BC > Since when did grief and comfort become exclusively atheistic? -- ML
From: Daniel on 5 Jan 2007 16:36 On 2 Jan 2007 12:47:19 -0800, "ML" <lipsey.mike(a)gmail.com> wrote: >BC wrote: >> I have to agree, Carol seems to be in the wrong group!!!! BC >> > >Since when did grief and comfort become exclusively atheistic? Alt.support.grief being an unmoderated usenet group, is raw free speech and available to anyone. Sometimes we get our weird psychotics [some of whom show up periodically over the years, what's with that?], or the vicious attackers, or even truly good-hearted people who are carried by their enthusiasm to dipping into trollness or spamness or disproportionate-response-ness or wrong-group-ness. I have copied below a snippet from the alt.support.grief FAQ. It doesn't say anything about the contents (or lack of contents) of anyone's personal religion-bag. I tend to think that whether or not religion is your bag, or whatever you may have in your particular bag, it's all okay. We drag the grief part of us in here -- the rest of us has to come along for the ride. We've had our share of fights. Sometimes friends do that. But the "g(G)od thing" issue has been pretty self-regulating, as far as I can see, at least since I landed here six-and-a-half years ago. I have my losses. I hurt. I know I find it hardest to utilize my leet social skillz (Miss Manners, anyone?) when I'm in pain. So I cut myself some slack. I cut you all some slack, too. >->1.01 What is alt.support.grief? >-> >->Alt.support.grief is a Usenet newsgroup that (as Bill Chadwick so >->aptly puts it) "nobody wants to join". We offer a warm, friendly >->environment to anyone dealing with the various stages of the grieving >->process. >-> >->The goal of alt.support.grief: Helping each other through the ups and >->downs of the grieving process. >-> >->Family and friends of those who are grieving are always welcome, so >->are lurkers (people who read but never post -- while posting is >->encouraged, it is never demanded; those who are grieving should post >->only when/what they are comfortable with). Those caring for a loved >->one who is dying are also welcome; we support those in "pre-grief" as >->well as after. >-> >->alt.support.grief (asg) is an unmoderated newsgroup. An unmoderated >->newsgroup is an equal opportunity public discussion forum. Anyone can >->post whatever he or she wants without filtering. In an unmoderated >->newsgroup, censorship and abuse of power issues do not exist. >-> >-> >->1.02 What is alt.support.grief NOT? >-> >->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for the lovelorn. There are several >->other newsgroups available (alt.romance and alt.romance.unhappy, for >->example) that more accurately fit the needs of those experiencing the >->"grief" of a broken relationship. >-> >->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for students to request feedback for >->school papers/projects. We are people dealing with various aspects of >->grief, we are not laboratory animals. Before posting a request to >->answer questions or fill out forms, please keep in mind that people >->who are grieving, or helping a loved one through grief, have matters >->on their minds that transcend the school grades of non-grieving >->strangers. >-> >->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for the posting of binaries (picture, >->audio, or video files). A good way to share pics by creating a web >->site and posting the link. >-> >->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for spams. If you absolutely must >->send a mass-post to every newsgroup under the sun, please reconsider >->invading our grief with something so trivial and insensitive. >-> >->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place to advertise or solicit for your >->commercial venture. No vendors or announcements for products or >->services, please. Are you grieving and want to let others know about >->a book/resource/site that helped you? Fine. Do you stand to make >->money directly or indirectly from your announcement? Then please >->respect the sensibilities of the group and do NOT post. -- Daniel ( deltaechomike(a)usa.net ) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Daisy on 6 Jan 2007 11:00
Daniel wrote: > On 2 Jan 2007 12:47:19 -0800, "ML" <lipsey.mike(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>BC wrote: >> >>>I have to agree, Carol seems to be in the wrong group!!!! BC >>> >> >>Since when did grief and comfort become exclusively atheistic? > > > Alt.support.grief being an unmoderated usenet group, is raw free > speech and available to anyone. Sometimes we get our weird psychotics > [some of whom show up periodically over the years, what's with that?], > or the vicious attackers, or even truly good-hearted people who are > carried by their enthusiasm to dipping into trollness or spamness or > disproportionate-response-ness or wrong-group-ness. > > I have copied below a snippet from the alt.support.grief FAQ. It > doesn't say anything about the contents (or lack of contents) of > anyone's personal religion-bag. I tend to think that whether or not > religion is your bag, or whatever you may have in your particular bag, > it's all okay. We drag the grief part of us in here -- the rest of us > has to come along for the ride. > > We've had our share of fights. Sometimes friends do that. But the > "g(G)od thing" issue has been pretty self-regulating, as far as I can > see, at least since I landed here six-and-a-half years ago. > > I have my losses. I hurt. I know I find it hardest to utilize my > leet social skillz (Miss Manners, anyone?) when I'm in pain. So I cut > myself some slack. I cut you all some slack, too. > > >>->1.01 What is alt.support.grief? >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is a Usenet newsgroup that (as Bill Chadwick so >>->aptly puts it) "nobody wants to join". We offer a warm, friendly >>->environment to anyone dealing with the various stages of the grieving >>->process. >>-> >>->The goal of alt.support.grief: Helping each other through the ups and >>->downs of the grieving process. >>-> >>->Family and friends of those who are grieving are always welcome, so >>->are lurkers (people who read but never post -- while posting is >>->encouraged, it is never demanded; those who are grieving should post >>->only when/what they are comfortable with). Those caring for a loved >>->one who is dying are also welcome; we support those in "pre-grief" as >>->well as after. >>-> >>->alt.support.grief (asg) is an unmoderated newsgroup. An unmoderated >>->newsgroup is an equal opportunity public discussion forum. Anyone can >>->post whatever he or she wants without filtering. In an unmoderated >>->newsgroup, censorship and abuse of power issues do not exist. >>-> >>-> >>->1.02 What is alt.support.grief NOT? >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for the lovelorn. There are several >>->other newsgroups available (alt.romance and alt.romance.unhappy, for >>->example) that more accurately fit the needs of those experiencing the >>->"grief" of a broken relationship. >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for students to request feedback for >>->school papers/projects. We are people dealing with various aspects of >>->grief, we are not laboratory animals. Before posting a request to >>->answer questions or fill out forms, please keep in mind that people >>->who are grieving, or helping a loved one through grief, have matters >>->on their minds that transcend the school grades of non-grieving >>->strangers. >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for the posting of binaries (picture, >>->audio, or video files). A good way to share pics by creating a web >>->site and posting the link. >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place for spams. If you absolutely must >>->send a mass-post to every newsgroup under the sun, please reconsider >>->invading our grief with something so trivial and insensitive. >>-> >>->Alt.support.grief is NOT a place to advertise or solicit for your >>->commercial venture. No vendors or announcements for products or >>->services, please. Are you grieving and want to let others know about >>->a book/resource/site that helped you? Fine. Do you stand to make >>->money directly or indirectly from your announcement? Then please >>->respect the sensibilities of the group and do NOT post. > > > -- > Daniel ( deltaechomike(a)usa.net ) > I have to agree with my friend Daniel, regardless of your beliefs, grief knows no compassion....it hurts us all. Thanks Daniel!! Daisy Busters Mom |