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From: Petruzzellis Kids on 15 Jun 2008 21:27
"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-7FEA8D.22522514062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> In article <trollkiller-52E39C.10184614062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <C479326D.C03CC%usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com>,
>> Snit <usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Steve Carroll" <trollkiller(a)TK.com> stated in post
>>> trollkiller-71510D.09263014062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/14/08
>>> 8:26 AM:
>>>
>>>>>> I still fail to see how my error justifies your ad hominem
>>>>>> attack. Do your students get this kind of treatment when they
>>>>>> err, especially the ones you believe disagree with your politics?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hear the loud sound of goal posts being moved.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I heard you move them when Steve Hix commented to you.
>>>
>>> What? Steve Carroll trying to turn things around when his BS is
>>> pointed out?
>>
>> I'm simply pointing to the facts. Steve Hix commented on Clark's ad
>> hominem and Clark ignored Steve by pointing back to my error... as
>> if my having made an error justified Clark's attack. Apparently
>> Clark is about as "honest and honorable" as you are.
>
> Sure it did - you quoted a BS story as fact because it fitted your
> wingnut views. You got caught out because even your hero Cheney now
> admits that there is no evidence at all to support it, and now you are
> squealing like a stuck pig and crying "martyr".
>
> Pathetic, simply pathetic.

So now you believe Cheney, do you? The left wing nut jobs supported by you
ivory tower elites are the ones who are screwing this country over left and
right. For the sake of a few frozen birds you do not let the US tap into
the biggest source of oil on the planet. The US could be completely energy
independent now and gas would cost less than a dollar a gallon. Thanks to
you, lefty, the terrorists are winning.
--
http://www.as7apcool.com/



From: Petruzzellis Kids on 15 Jun 2008 21:32
"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-72A77F.10452314062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> In article <trollkiller-5CC5EC.06380914062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <clark.31-EC1DF0.23202713062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <sehix-76B4F0.14532713062008(a)news.speakeasy.net>,
>>> Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <clark.31-9F6771.16521513062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>>>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <trollkiller-6E946D.12205813062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
>>>>> Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <clark.31-472BEC.14101613062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>>>>>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <trollkiller-1E4823.08550513062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now that gas is averaging over $4 a gallon we can remind
>>>>>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the bill to drill 150 miles offshore was defeated. Meanwhile...
>>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> drilling 60 miles off of Miami, Brazil will be tapping into
>>>>>>>> their new
>>>>>>>> offshore find and the mideast oil barons are spending some of
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> billions buying prime U.S. real estate. Their latest
>>>>>>>> acquisition will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> a 75% stake in the Chrysler building in N.Y. Hmm... maybe there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> bright side to this... if Arabs eventually own N.Y. maybe other
>>>>>>>> Arabs
>>>>>>>> won't feel the need to blow it up anymore... perhaps they'll
>>>>>>>> use it
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> staging ground instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check the news - the Chinese are NOT drilling off Cuba. Dimwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did check... and corrected it in this thread, Dimwit... as
>>>>>> shown here,
>>>>>> written about 20 minutes later to this very thread:
>>>>>> <trollkiller-940859.09185913062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Next time check the facts BEFORE you so anxiously blurt them out
>>>>> to bolster your wingnut views. It leaves you with more (some?)
>>>>> credibility that way.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you might care to see whether or not someone's corrected
>>>> themselves before you launch into ad hominem attacks your own self.
>>>
>>> He had not when I read that.
>>
>> I still fail to see how my error justifies your ad hominem attack. Do
>> your students get this kind of treatment when they err, especially
>> the ones you believe disagree with your politics?
>
> I hear the loud sound of goal posts being moved. Of course, all my
> students have to undergo a mandatory lobotomy before they are allowed
> in my class. Only difference is that, unlike yours, it leaves them
> with some residual IQ.

It would take a mandatory lobotomy for your students to enter your classes.
What makes me sick is you and your left wing teacher nutjobs push your left
wing agenda on students and then we end up with Bush getting a lower and
lower rating. Notice how when the students grow up and are old enough to
get into the polls his rating went down. This was true even as he was
winning the war on terror. Misson Accomplished!

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From: Petruzzellis Kids on 15 Jun 2008 21:35
"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-BA3690.23181013062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> In article <trollkiller-565A04.17182213062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <C4784175.C01A9%usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com>,
>> Snit <usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Steve Carroll" <trollkiller(a)TK.com> stated in post
>>> trollkiller-0EAFA9.16172013062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/13/08
>>> 3:17 PM:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> I did check... and corrected it in this thread, Dimwit... as
>>>>>> shown here, written about 20 minutes later to this very thread:
>>>>>> <trollkiller-940859.09185913062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Next time check the facts BEFORE you so anxiously blurt them out
>>>>> to bolster your wingnut views.
>>>>
>>>> You mean like you did when you hammered me after reading my first
>>>> post but not my correction made a mere 20 minutes later?
>>>
>>> So before noting your errors you want people to read all of your
>>> posts
>>
>> Fact: You don't know that it's an error. Like me, you can only
>> assume it is. See how this reality thing works yet? Further, I'd
>> like to see Clark prove China isn't drilling off Cuba:
>>
>> "the Chinese are NOT drilling off Cuba". - William A. T. Clark
>>
>> Why aren't you asking Clark to prove his claim? Should I expect to
>> see a retraction from Clark as he admits he doesn't really *know* if
>> statement is true or not, you know... like I gave when I realized
>> that the article I read *may* not be true?
>
> Quote:
>
> "Cheney's office said in a statement to The Associated Press that the
> vice president had erred.
>
> "It is our understanding that, although Cuba has leased out
> exploration blocks 60 miles off the coast of southern Florida, which
> is closer than American firms are allowed to operate in that area, no
> Chinese firm is drilling there," according to the statement."
>
> Game, set, and match.

You do not know the Chinese are not right there right now.

--
"This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but
since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything." Bob S


From: Steve Carroll on 16 Jun 2008 10:07
In article <g34qhu$aev$1(a)registered.motzarella.org>,
"Petruzzellis Kids" <fretwiz(a)TK.com> wrote:

> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31(a)nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-BA3690.23181013062008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> > In article <trollkiller-565A04.17182213062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> > Steve Carroll <trollkiller(a)TK.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <C4784175.C01A9%usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com>,
> >> Snit <usenet(a)gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Steve Carroll" <trollkiller(a)TK.com> stated in post
> >>> trollkiller-0EAFA9.16172013062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/13/08
> >>> 3:17 PM:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>>>> I did check... and corrected it in this thread, Dimwit... as
> >>>>>> shown here, written about 20 minutes later to this very thread:
> >>>>>> <trollkiller-940859.09185913062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Next time check the facts BEFORE you so anxiously blurt them out
> >>>>> to bolster your wingnut views.
> >>>>
> >>>> You mean like you did when you hammered me after reading my first
> >>>> post but not my correction made a mere 20 minutes later?
> >>>
> >>> So before noting your errors you want people to read all of your
> >>> posts
> >>
> >> Fact: You don't know that it's an error. Like me, you can only
> >> assume it is. See how this reality thing works yet? Further, I'd
> >> like to see Clark prove China isn't drilling off Cuba:
> >>
> >> "the Chinese are NOT drilling off Cuba". - William A. T. Clark
> >>
> >> Why aren't you asking Clark to prove his claim? Should I expect to
> >> see a retraction from Clark as he admits he doesn't really *know* if
> >> statement is true or not, you know... like I gave when I realized
> >> that the article I read *may* not be true?
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > "Cheney's office said in a statement to The Associated Press that the
> > vice president had erred.
> >
> > "It is our understanding that, although Cuba has leased out
> > exploration blocks 60 miles off the coast of southern Florida, which
> > is closer than American firms are allowed to operate in that area, no
> > Chinese firm is drilling there," according to the statement."
> >
> > Game, set, and match.
>
> You do not know the Chinese are not right there right now.

According to articles I've read the Chinese are in Cuba on oil business
and they control an onshore area in Cuba. Being that the Cubans have
leased out concessionary blocks offshore, it doesn't matter if it's to
the Chinese or anyone else drilling offshore... my point remains.

--
"Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is
clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much
just throw it away". - Snit
From: Snit on 16 Jun 2008 10:49
"Petruzzellis Kids" <fretwiz(a)TK.com> stated in post
g34qhu$aev$1(a)registered.motzarella.org on 6/15/08 6:35 PM:

>>> Fact: You don't know that it's an error. Like me, you can only
>>> assume it is. See how this reality thing works yet? Further, I'd
>>> like to see Clark prove China isn't drilling off Cuba:
>>>
>>> "the Chinese are NOT drilling off Cuba". - William A. T. Clark
>>>
>>> Why aren't you asking Clark to prove his claim? Should I expect to
>>> see a retraction from Clark as he admits he doesn't really *know* if
>>> statement is true or not, you know... like I gave when I realized
>>> that the article I read *may* not be true?
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> "Cheney's office said in a statement to The Associated Press that the
>> vice president had erred.
>>
>> "It is our understanding that, although Cuba has leased out
>> exploration blocks 60 miles off the coast of southern Florida, which
>> is closer than American firms are allowed to operate in that area, no
>> Chinese firm is drilling there," according to the statement."
>>
>> Game, set, and match.
>
> You do not know the Chinese are not right there right now.

And the Martians might be there, too!


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"The music is not inside the piano." - Alan Kay

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