From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 4, 9:54 am, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:37 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
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> > Kevysmom wrote:
> > >>> They arent concerned about the CAUSE of parkinson's, they want a cure
> > >>> or a treatment.
> > >> Kevysmom,
> > >> If they don't know what causes it,
> > >> how can they cure it? Just curious.
>
> > > They know what genes are involved, when chemicals turn genes off(And
> > > they do) you get syptoms of a particular disease, it depeneds on what
> > > gene is turned off. They know this.
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> > > They can cure diseases by turning genes back on.
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> > Who are "they"?
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> > What evidence do you have that they turn on genes?
>
> > What genes are turned back on to cure disease? Examples and evidence,
> > please.
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> > In addition, what about diseases like cystic fibrosis and sickle cell
> > anemia where the genes are defective? You can turn up the genes all you
> > want, but the protein made still doesn't work.
>
> > Jeff
>
> Through the efforts of University of Arizona BIO5, High Throughput
> Genomics and Science Foundation
> Arizona, we are moving toward discovering drugs that do predictable
> things. Now, turning genes “on
> and off” can have a whole new meaning; namely, curing diseases and
> ensuring a high-quality of life.
>
> http://www.sfaz.org/Common/Files/SFAz%20Vignette%203%20David%20Galbra...
>
> They arent defective, they are turned off.
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>

In today's newsfeed, they are discussing vaccines for mesothelioma and
glioblastoma multiforme, two of the most deadly cancers. They are both
highly specific, targeted protocols which have minimal side effects
and no toxicity.

I suppose that the anti-vacs will oppose them.

From: dr_jeff on
Kevysmom wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:37 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>>> They arent concerned about the CAUSE of parkinson's, they want a cure
>>>>> or a treatment.
>>>> Kevysmom,
>>>> If they don't know what causes it,
>>>> how can they cure it? Just curious.
>>> They know what genes are involved, when chemicals turn genes off(And
>>> they do) you get syptoms of a particular disease, it depeneds on what
>>> gene is turned off. They know this.
>>> They can cure diseases by turning genes back on.
>> Who are "they"?
>>
>> What evidence do you have that they turn on genes?
>>
>> What genes are turned back on to cure disease? Examples and evidence,
>> please.
>>
>> In addition, what about diseases like cystic fibrosis and sickle cell
>> anemia where the genes are defective? You can turn up the genes all you
>> want, but the protein made still doesn't work.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>
>
> Through the efforts of University of Arizona BIO5, High Throughput
> Genomics and Science Foundation
> Arizona, we are moving toward discovering drugs that do predictable
> things. Now, turning genes �on
> and off� can have a whole new meaning; namely, curing diseases and
> ensuring a high-quality of life.
>
> http://www.sfaz.org/Common/Files/SFAz%20Vignette%203%20David%20Galbraith%20Gene%20Signatures%20Final%20V1%20%20S-28,%20m%20pdf.pdf

You stated that chemicals turn genes off. This is not all addressed in
the in the news release you referenced.

"They," whoever they is (University of Arizona BIO5 is not "they"), have
cured what disease? What was the gene they turned back on? In theory, in
the future, this will help with some diseases, like cancer. However,
what disease today is cured by turning a gene that should be on back on?

None, as far as I know. And this doesn't address the cases like cystic
fibrosis, adrenoleukodystrophy, fragile X, Huntington's disease and
sickle anemia where the gene is bad.

As far as curing a disease without knowing the cause, we don't know the
cause of appendicitis, but we know the cure: an operation. And, we are
able to cure most cases of cancer without knowing the cause.

Jeff

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From: Kevysmom on
On Mar 4, 8:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> > On Mar 3, 8:37 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>>> They arent concerned about the CAUSE of parkinson's, they want a cure
> >>>>> or a treatment.
> >>>> Kevysmom,
> >>>> If they don't know what causes it,
> >>>> how can they cure it? Just curious.
> >>> They know what genes are involved, when chemicals turn genes off(And
> >>> they do) you get syptoms of a particular disease, it depeneds on what
> >>> gene is turned off. They know this.
> >>> They can cure diseases by turning genes back on.
> >> Who are "they"?
>
> >> What evidence do you have that they turn on genes?
>
> >> What genes are turned back on to cure disease? Examples and evidence,
> >> please.
>
> >> In addition, what about diseases like cystic fibrosis and sickle cell
> >> anemia where the genes are defective? You can turn up the genes all you
> >> want, but the protein made still doesn't work.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > Through the efforts of University of Arizona BIO5, High Throughput
> > Genomics and Science Foundation
> > Arizona, we are moving toward discovering drugs that do predictable
> > things. Now, turning genes “on
> > and off” can have a whole new meaning; namely, curing diseases and
> > ensuring a high-quality of life.
>
> >http://www.sfaz.org/Common/Files/SFAz%20Vignette%203%20David%20Galbra...
>
> You stated that chemicals turn genes off. This is not all addressed in
> the in the news release you referenced.
>
> "They," whoever they is (University of Arizona BIO5 is not "they"), have
> cured what disease? What was the gene they turned back on? In theory, in
> the future, this will help with some diseases, like cancer. However,
> what disease today is cured by turning a gene that should be on back on?
>
> None, as far as I know. And this doesn't address the cases like cystic
> fibrosis, adrenoleukodystrophy, fragile X, Huntington's disease and
> sickle anemia where the gene is bad.
>
> As far as curing a disease without knowing the cause, we don't know the
> cause of appendicitis, but we know the cure: an operation. And, we are
> able to cure most cases of cancer without knowing the cause.
>
> Jeff
>


The researchers worked with mice that had the MeCP2 gene disabled,
and had developed advanced Rett-like disease. Using genetic tricks,
they turned the MeCP2 gene back on in the brain—and saw a striking
recovery in the mice.



Researches have already reversed retts in mice, next step is primates
then onto humans.


http://www.childrenshospital.org/vector/vector_fall08/making_connections_p.html


If they can reverse one disease they can reverse all diseases.


The genes arent bad, They are turned off.


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From: Happy Oyster on
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:40:39 -0800 (PST), Kevysmom <kevysmom09(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>If they can reverse one disease they can reverse all diseases.

That is bullshit.

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From: Kevysmom on
On Mar 4, 10:50 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:40:39 -0800 (PST), Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >If they can reverse one disease they can reverse all diseases.
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> That is bullshit.
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Thats your uneducated opinion and you are welcome to it ;o)