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From: chershaytoute on 3 May 2007 11:29 I am not a veteran. I have read along on the group for a while, and have gotten help in doing so. I don't "congregate" - people scare me - so thus far, I've just read. It's a big part of my PTSD. I'm a child of very serious child abuse. My PTSD, panic attacks, and anxiety problems went untreated until very recently. I am 50 years old. I "cocoon" - hide within, keep away from situations that scare me, pull myself into teeny-tiny places. I'm not the violent kind - violence scares me. Heck, having someone talk loudly anywhere close by scares me. Having someone confront someone else close by scares me. Sometimes it seems as if everything scares me. This... insults me. I don't confront things well - I'm only learning how. I don't get angry. My therapist is helping me learn how to be angry - it's something that was beaten out of me a very long time ago, so confronting something is very difficult for me. But this truly insults me. My insurance for therapy ran out. I had just so many appointments, and then it ran out. I'm now paying out of pocket... It's expensive... I can't work. I haven't been able to for a while. I worked from home, at least, I used to. But now, between the fact that I'm just not capable of leaving the house and the fact that I have migraines more often than I don't (partially genetic, partially brought about by beatings upon beatings...you get hit in the head by bats, bricks, and other objects often enough...it happens)...I cannot work. I used to be able to bear it. I just can't anymore... I'd like to get disability, but the government, in its infinite wisdom, doesn't consider me disabled at this time... I've been trying to get on disability for some time. I understand it's a process that can take quite a few YEARS. I figure it will probably come through about the time I'm eligible for Social Security...or close... In the meantime, I've been living off my savings... It's a very good thing that I'm a frugal sort... So no, no one is just giving me a check. No one... Otis Willie (Ret), if you'd like to give me money once a month and think it will =cure= me, hey, that'd be awfully nice...but I don't think it's going to. I don't think it's going to make up for year after year of physical, mental, and emotional abuse. Heck, my everso charming mother beat the stink out of me with her cane the last time about 3 months before she died last June...so I'm thinking those checks are going to have to be mighty big ones. When can I expect the first to arrive? "Otis Willie PIO The American War Library" <themilitarytoday(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:45qi33p090504c3fvr5183fcm2nmpf1u2a(a)4ax.com... > PTSD is the only human ailment that its so-called 'suffers' claim can only > be cured by money. > > Give a veteran a PTSD check once a month and his/her mental problems > immediately disappear. > > If a man gets a (common) cold he does everything he can to achieve an > immediate cure... and if a man gets a veneral disease he'll take any pill > or injection to achieve a quick cure... but if a man believes he suffers > from PTSD he feels he can't be cured until or unless he gets a green check > once a month for life from the federal government. > > PTSD does not decode as "Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome". For the whiners > and losers who claim PTSD is decodes as: "Pay Me To Suppress my > Depression" > > I served an entire year in Vietnam. I am now 58 years old. Vietnam > represents 1/58th of my life. There is no way on God's green Earth I will > allow a mere fraction of my life to spend my remaining days whining and > crying about that tiny fraction of my life unless the VA sends me a > paycheck so that I can sit on my lazy butt and not have to work another > day for my living. > > General Westmoreland was right... we allowed too many sorry losers to > serve in our military during the Vietnam era... losers that would NEVER > have permitted to wear an American uniform under normal circumstances. > > Here's a PTSD group I found: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/war-caused-ptsd/ > > Aaron > > U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully > reproducing copyrighted material. In abidance > with our laws this report cannot be provided in > its entirety. However, you can read it in full > today at the supplied URL. The subject/content of > this report is not necessarily the viewpoint of > the distributing Library. This report is provided > for your information and discussion. > > > -- Otis Willie (Ret.) > Military News and Information Editor (http://www.13105320634.com) > The American War Library, Est. 1988 (http://www.amervets.com) > 16907 Brighton Avenue > Gardena CA 90247 > 1-310-532-0634 > > Military Webmaster Site Link Request Form: > http://www.amervets.com/linkreq.htm > > Military and Vet Info-Exchange/Discussion Groups > http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/share.htm
From: anon on 3 May 2007 15:16 Bonjour chersaytoute, Welcome to the list! To me, it seems to me a relatively small group of caring people come here and share ideas and support. But as you have been reading along for a while, of course you know that... To me it looks like Otis Willie's post had a lot of tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. It may have looked literal, but he posts a lot of stuff that has to do helping vets, and people with ptsd generally. Perhaps he was as frustrated and angry as you were with some of the things that he put in his post. In any case, I'm glad that it provoked you to write. And I hope that you will continue to do so. I am sad to read some of what happened to you and its effects, but I hope that you will find here another group of caring people. Wishing you a good day, Anon "chershaytoute" <chershaytoute(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:fdn_h.28$YF7.6(a)newsfe02.lga... >I am not a veteran. I have read along on the group for a while, and have >gotten help in doing so. I don't "congregate" - people scare me - so thus >far, I've just read. It's a big part of my PTSD. > > I'm a child of very serious child abuse. My PTSD, panic attacks, and > anxiety problems went untreated until very recently. I am 50 years old. > I "cocoon" - hide within, keep away from situations that scare me, pull > myself into teeny-tiny places. > > I'm not the violent kind - violence scares me. Heck, having someone talk > loudly anywhere close by scares me. Having someone confront someone else > close by scares me. > > Sometimes it seems as if everything scares me. > > This... insults me. I don't confront things well - I'm only learning > how. I don't get angry. My therapist is helping me learn how to be > angry - it's something that was beaten out of me a very long time ago, so > confronting something is very difficult for me. But this truly insults > me. > > My insurance for therapy ran out. I had just so many appointments, and > then it ran out. I'm now paying out of pocket... It's expensive... > > I can't work. I haven't been able to for a while. I worked from home, at > least, I used to. But now, between the fact that I'm just not capable of > leaving the house and the fact that I have migraines more often than I > don't (partially genetic, partially brought about by beatings upon > beatings...you get hit in the head by bats, bricks, and other objects > often enough...it happens)...I cannot work. I used to be able to bear it. > I just can't anymore... > > I'd like to get disability, but the government, in its infinite wisdom, > doesn't consider me disabled at this time... I've been trying to get on > disability for some time. I understand it's a process that can take quite > a few YEARS. I figure it will probably come through about the time I'm > eligible for Social Security...or close... In the meantime, I've been > living off my savings... It's a very good thing that I'm a frugal sort... > > So no, no one is just giving me a check. No one... > > Otis Willie (Ret), if you'd like to give me money once a month and think > it will =cure= me, hey, that'd be awfully nice...but I don't think it's > going to. I don't think it's going to make up for year after year of > physical, mental, and emotional abuse. Heck, my everso charming mother > beat the stink out of me with her cane the last time about 3 months before > she died last June...so I'm thinking those checks are going to have to be > mighty big ones. > > When can I expect the first to arrive? > > > > > > > "Otis Willie PIO The American War Library" <themilitarytoday(a)pacbell.net> > wrote in message news:45qi33p090504c3fvr5183fcm2nmpf1u2a(a)4ax.com... >> PTSD is the only human ailment that its so-called 'suffers' claim can >> only be cured by money. >> >> Give a veteran a PTSD check once a month and his/her mental problems >> immediately disappear. >> >> If a man gets a (common) cold he does everything he can to achieve an >> immediate cure... and if a man gets a veneral disease he'll take any pill >> or injection to achieve a quick cure... but if a man believes he suffers >> from PTSD he feels he can't be cured until or unless he gets a green >> check once a month for life from the federal government. >> >> PTSD does not decode as "Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome". For the whiners >> and losers who claim PTSD is decodes as: "Pay Me To Suppress my >> Depression" >> >> I served an entire year in Vietnam. I am now 58 years old. Vietnam >> represents 1/58th of my life. There is no way on God's green Earth I will >> allow a mere fraction of my life to spend my remaining days whining and >> crying about that tiny fraction of my life unless the VA sends me a >> paycheck so that I can sit on my lazy butt and not have to work another >> day for my living. >> >> General Westmoreland was right... we allowed too many sorry losers to >> serve in our military during the Vietnam era... losers that would NEVER >> have permitted to wear an American uniform under normal circumstances. >> >> Here's a PTSD group I found: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/war-caused-ptsd/ >> >> Aaron >> >> U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully >> reproducing copyrighted material. In abidance >> with our laws this report cannot be provided in >> its entirety. However, you can read it in full >> today at the supplied URL. The subject/content of >> this report is not necessarily the viewpoint of >> the distributing Library. This report is provided >> for your information and discussion. >> >> >> -- Otis Willie (Ret.) >> Military News and Information Editor (http://www.13105320634.com) >> The American War Library, Est. 1988 (http://www.amervets.com) >> 16907 Brighton Avenue >> Gardena CA 90247 >> 1-310-532-0634 >> >> Military Webmaster Site Link Request Form: >> http://www.amervets.com/linkreq.htm >> >> Military and Vet Info-Exchange/Discussion Groups >> http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/share.htm > >
From: chershaytoute on 4 May 2007 04:22 "anon," I would be willing to apologize to Otis Willie for posting it, but not to the person who wrote it - Aaron. He seems to be quite lacking in understanding. I went to therapy today and talked about why weekends are painful...and what a sadistic thing a list can be. A list. Even the idea of one is difficult to wrap my mind around to this day...they still terrify me. And yes, now that I've posted, there's no going back. After a while, I'll post a little bit more about who I am...and what made me...this...way... Thanks for explaining the sarcasm and helping me think to re-read. Another thing I've found that I have problems with is complete literalism. It's another "gift" my mother graced me with. I'm still trying to work my way to the why's on that one... "anon" <ok(a)myway.com> wrote in message news:Pyq_h.5524$dd.5126(a)newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > Bonjour chersaytoute, > > Welcome to the list! To me, it seems to me a relatively small group of > caring people come here and share ideas and support. But as you have been > reading along for a while, of course you know that... > > To me it looks like Otis Willie's post had a lot of tongue-in-cheek > sarcasm. It may have looked literal, but he posts a lot of stuff that has > to do helping vets, and people with ptsd generally. Perhaps he was as > frustrated and angry as you were with some of the things that he put in > his post. > > In any case, I'm glad that it provoked you to write. And I hope that you > will continue to do so. I am sad to read some of what happened to you > and its effects, but I hope that you will find here another group of > caring people. > > Wishing you a good day, > Anon > > > > > "chershaytoute" <chershaytoute(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:fdn_h.28$YF7.6(a)newsfe02.lga... >>I am not a veteran. I have read along on the group for a while, and have >>gotten help in doing so. I don't "congregate" - people scare me - so thus >>far, I've just read. It's a big part of my PTSD. >> >> I'm a child of very serious child abuse. My PTSD, panic attacks, and >> anxiety problems went untreated until very recently. I am 50 years old. >> I "cocoon" - hide within, keep away from situations that scare me, pull >> myself into teeny-tiny places. >> >> I'm not the violent kind - violence scares me. Heck, having someone talk >> loudly anywhere close by scares me. Having someone confront someone else >> close by scares me. >> >> Sometimes it seems as if everything scares me. >> >> This... insults me. I don't confront things well - I'm only learning >> how. I don't get angry. My therapist is helping me learn how to be >> angry - it's something that was beaten out of me a very long time ago, so >> confronting something is very difficult for me. But this truly insults >> me. >> >> My insurance for therapy ran out. I had just so many appointments, and >> then it ran out. I'm now paying out of pocket... It's expensive... >> >> I can't work. I haven't been able to for a while. I worked from home, >> at least, I used to. But now, between the fact that I'm just not capable >> of leaving the house and the fact that I have migraines more often than I >> don't (partially genetic, partially brought about by beatings upon >> beatings...you get hit in the head by bats, bricks, and other objects >> often enough...it happens)...I cannot work. I used to be able to bear >> it. I just can't anymore... >> >> I'd like to get disability, but the government, in its infinite wisdom, >> doesn't consider me disabled at this time... I've been trying to get on >> disability for some time. I understand it's a process that can take >> quite a few YEARS. I figure it will probably come through about the time >> I'm eligible for Social Security...or close... In the meantime, I've >> been living off my savings... It's a very good thing that I'm a frugal >> sort... >> >> So no, no one is just giving me a check. No one... >> >> Otis Willie (Ret), if you'd like to give me money once a month and think >> it will =cure= me, hey, that'd be awfully nice...but I don't think it's >> going to. I don't think it's going to make up for year after year of >> physical, mental, and emotional abuse. Heck, my everso charming mother >> beat the stink out of me with her cane the last time about 3 months >> before she died last June...so I'm thinking those checks are going to >> have to be mighty big ones. >> >> When can I expect the first to arrive? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Otis Willie PIO The American War Library" <themilitarytoday(a)pacbell.net> >> wrote in message news:45qi33p090504c3fvr5183fcm2nmpf1u2a(a)4ax.com... >>> PTSD is the only human ailment that its so-called 'suffers' claim can >>> only be cured by money. >>> >>> Give a veteran a PTSD check once a month and his/her mental problems >>> immediately disappear. >>> >>> If a man gets a (common) cold he does everything he can to achieve an >>> immediate cure... and if a man gets a veneral disease he'll take any >>> pill or injection to achieve a quick cure... but if a man believes he >>> suffers from PTSD he feels he can't be cured until or unless he gets a >>> green check once a month for life from the federal government. >>> >>> PTSD does not decode as "Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome". For the >>> whiners and losers who claim PTSD is decodes as: "Pay Me To Suppress my >>> Depression" >>> >>> I served an entire year in Vietnam. I am now 58 years old. Vietnam >>> represents 1/58th of my life. There is no way on God's green Earth I >>> will allow a mere fraction of my life to spend my remaining days whining >>> and crying about that tiny fraction of my life unless the VA sends me a >>> paycheck so that I can sit on my lazy butt and not have to work another >>> day for my living. >>> >>> General Westmoreland was right... we allowed too many sorry losers to >>> serve in our military during the Vietnam era... losers that would NEVER >>> have permitted to wear an American uniform under normal circumstances. >>> >>> Here's a PTSD group I found: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/war-caused-ptsd/ >>> >>> Aaron >>> >>> U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully >>> reproducing copyrighted material. In abidance >>> with our laws this report cannot be provided in >>> its entirety. However, you can read it in full >>> today at the supplied URL. The subject/content of >>> this report is not necessarily the viewpoint of >>> the distributing Library. This report is provided >>> for your information and discussion. >>> >>> >>> -- Otis Willie (Ret.) >>> Military News and Information Editor (http://www.13105320634.com) >>> The American War Library, Est. 1988 (http://www.amervets.com) >>> 16907 Brighton Avenue >>> Gardena CA 90247 >>> 1-310-532-0634 >>> >>> Military Webmaster Site Link Request Form: >>> http://www.amervets.com/linkreq.htm >>> >>> Military and Vet Info-Exchange/Discussion Groups >>> http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/share.htm >> >> > >
From: Nancy on 4 May 2007 08:57 Hi chershaytoute! > "anon," I would be willing to apologize to Otis Willie for posting it, > but not to the person who wrote it - Aaron. He seems to be quite > lacking in understanding. FWIW, I tend to NOT read most stuff in any thread from Otis Willie. ----snip------------------ >>> I can't work. I haven't been able to for a while. I worked from >>> home, at least, I used to. But now, between the fact that I'm just >>> not capable of leaving the house and the fact that I have migraines >>> more often than I don't (partially genetic, partially brought about >>> by beatings upon beatings...you get hit in the head by bats, bricks, >>> and other objects often enough...it happens)...I cannot work. I >>> used to be able to bear it. I just can't anymore... >>> >>> I'd like to get disability, but the government, in its infinite >>> wisdom, doesn't consider me disabled at this time... I've been >>> trying to get on disability for some time. I understand it's a >>> process that can take quite a few YEARS. I figure it will probably >>> come through about the time I'm eligible for Social Security...or >>> close... In the meantime, I've been living off my savings... It's >>> a very good thing that I'm a frugal sort... IMO there are a lot of attorneys who specialize in the Social Security system, including disabled folks. As the fees for this service are paid by the government, not the individual applying, I suggest that you seek these services in your hometown. The stress of dealing with SSA in my opinion is just too much for someone with PTSD to add to her already high stress levels. YMMV Smile and there will be something to smile about! Nancy
From: Turtle on 4 May 2007 10:53
I understand your feelings as well. My PTSD is from child sexual abuse and sexual assault and being raped. One of the most fusterating things is to be told that we believe you but it isn't worth my career to pursue a military perp. I even went to the CID and they dropped the ball on the case. Therefore, I think justice would have helped. I don't receive any money, I work as a teacher and try to make it through every day. If people want to say that what I want it money I would like them to look at my stomach and see the holes growning from worry and stress. Or the countless medicines I have to take for migranes and stress. I was told by the justice department to forget about the crimes and move on with life. I thought about a civil lawsuit but I don't want his money. I want him to just feel a little bit of the paint and torture that he decided to cause me. Thats all. Chershaytoute you don't need to appologize for writing back. It is he who ought to expand his horizons and see that if he doesn't want child abusers or rapists on the street; then realise it is statements like "Give a veteran a PTSD check once a month and his/her mental problems immediately disappear." is part of the problem. |