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From: Steve Kramer on 24 Oct 2005 17:29 On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the doctor's office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a month. He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or a week earlier -- never a month! Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is a block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am used to the SEs. However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to climb up a stairway." So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen for words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five months ago. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 non Illegitimi carborundum
From: Steve U on 24 Oct 2005 17:51 Steve Kramer, I hope your latest result turns out to be a random fluctiation, and not a trend. Those ultra-sensitive tests are a two edged sword. You get more detailed information about the >0.1 range, but then what do you do with it? Your situation may be in the future for more of us. If it is my destiny, I hope I cope as well as you have. SteveU
From: James A. Honeychuck on 24 Oct 2005 18:00 Steve, Are you sure all the tests were by the same lab using the same procedures? These are infinitesimally small quantities, and may not be comparable. jimhoney Steve Kramer wrote: > On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer > battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test > and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the > highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. > > I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the doctor's > office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was > highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a month. > He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or a > week earlier -- never a month! > > Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I > promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... > what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is a > block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am > used to the SEs. > > However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a > partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little > testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off > of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to climb > up a stairway." > > So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen for > words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five months > ago. >
From: Lorelei on 24 Oct 2005 18:24 "Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:Xmc7f.70434$Hs.48497(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer > battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test > and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the > highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. > > I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the > doctor's > office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was > highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a > month. > He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or > a > week earlier -- never a month! > > Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I > promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... > what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is > a > block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am > used to the SEs. > > However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a > partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little > testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off > of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to > climb > up a stairway." > > So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen > for > words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five > months > ago. > > -- > PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 > Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c > RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins > PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 > EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 > PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 > Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 > PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 > non Illegitimi carborundum > > > Steve, the adrenal blocker is called Casodex. Curt took that 50 mg daily by pill. He was still strong and vibrant and muscular. He was still "functional" even while on Casodex. that's what I know about that. best wishes to you. Lori
From: Steve Kramer on 24 Oct 2005 18:29
Same lab. Same procedures. Been using the same one for the whole 5 years. They switched to ultra testing maybe 2? years ago.... right before my Lupron shots started. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 non Illegitimi carborundum "James A. Honeychuck" <jimhoney(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:0Qc7f.494209$5N3.466639(a)bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Steve, > > Are you sure all the tests were by the same lab using the same > procedures? These are infinitesimally small quantities, and may not be > comparable. > > jimhoney > > > Steve Kramer wrote: > > On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer > > battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test > > and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the > > highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. > > > > I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the doctor's > > office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was > > highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a month. > > He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or a > > week earlier -- never a month! > > > > Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I > > promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... > > what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is a > > block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am > > used to the SEs. > > > > However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a > > partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little > > testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off > > of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to climb > > up a stairway." > > > > So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen for > > words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five months > > ago. > > |