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From: Stavros Moschos on 26 Oct 2005 12:19 Steve, I am trying to absorb all of these messages before rep[lying, but I can't wait that long. I agree with those who wrote that what is significant is the doubling rate over a period of time. Surges, especially over short periods are not significant, so stay steady. My own next PSA is in a couple of days (at three months rather than six, at my request because I am curious), and I am taking this advice: don't trouble trouble till trouble troubles you. But why am I saying this to you? You are a model of perfect forbearance. Stavros "Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:Xmc7f.70434$Hs.48497(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer > battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test > and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the > highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. > > I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the > doctor's > office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was > highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a > month. > He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or > a > week earlier -- never a month! > > Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I > promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... > what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is > a > block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am > used to the SEs. > > However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a > partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little > testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off > of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to > climb > up a stairway." > > So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen > for > words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five > months > ago. > > -- > PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 > Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c > RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins > PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 > EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 > PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 > Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 > PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 > non Illegitimi carborundum > > >
From: Heather on 26 Oct 2005 13:23 "c palmer" <PALMER_ENT(a)webtv.net> wrote in message news:19833-435F3BC9-1(a)storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net... From: curtandlori(a)earthlink.net (Lorelei) "Heather" <figgs(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message Now.....another question. I have never heard of hormone shots being given every FOUR months......they are always 1 or 3. How come? Just curious. XX Heather Curt's shots are at 4 month intervals, it is a larger dose. it's all time release. Lori =========== lupron is made by TAP industries. the dosages are as follows: 2 month - 7.5 3 month - 15 4 month - 22.5 they went to giving the 4 month shots in 1998. Thanks.....Curtis & Lorelei.....I was not aware of that. Ron had one shot of Suprefact (not available in the US) and since then it has been Zoladex. All at 3 month intervals. So I assumed that this was the norm. I will check with our doctor on this. I know each *brand* contains the same chemicals, but perhaps Ron's side effects might be lessened by Lupron or another one. Cheers....Heather
From: c palmer on 26 Oct 2005 14:29 i was off on the amounts. the 4 month is 30 mg instead of the 22.5....... ~ curtis ========= Lupron Depot is indicated for the palliative treatment of advanced prostate cancer, for management of endometriosis, in combination with iron for the preoperative treatment of anemia caused by uterine fibroids, and for the treatment of children with central precocious puberty. Lupron Depot® - 4 Month 30 mg, Lupron Depot® - 3 Month 22.5 mg, and Lupron Depot® 7.5 mg are indicated for the palliative treatment of advanced prostate cancer. These dosages are not approved for use in women. The most common side effect associated with Lupron Depot is hot flashes. Like other treatment options, LH-RH agonists may cause impotence. Symptoms may worsen over the first few weeks of treatment. Periodic monitoring of PSA and serum testosterone levels is recommended. Lupron Depot® - 4 Month 30 mg (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) Lupron Depot® - 3 Month 22.5 mg (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) Lupron Depot® 7.5 mg (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) Gynecology Lupron Depot® - 3 Month 11.25 mg and Lupron Depot® 3.75 mg are indicated for the management of endometriosis and in combination with iron for the preoperative treatment of anemia caused by uterine fibroids. Side effects associated with Lupron Depot are generally those related to hypoestrogenism, including vasomotor flushes, headaches, and vaginal dryness. After 6 months of therapy with Lupron Depot 3.75 mg, vertebral bone density decreased by an average of 3.2%, compared with pretreatment value. Lupron Depot® - 3 Month 11.25 mg (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) Lupron Depot® 3.75 mg (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) Pediatric Lupron Depot-PED® 7.5 mg, 11.25 mg, and 15 mg are indicated for the treatment of children with central precocious puberty. In clinical studies, the most frequently reported adverse event related to therapy with Lupron Depot-PED was an injection site reaction seen in 5% of children in combined studies. The recommended starting dose of Lupron-PED is 0.3 mg/kg/4 weeks (minimum 7.5 mg). Inadequate dosing may result in poor control of the pubertal process. Lupron Depot-PED® (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) 7.5 mg, 11.25 mg and 15 mg knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
From: Steve Kramer on 26 Oct 2005 21:35 "Heather" <figgs(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:RcydnWqE1c9QfMPenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)rogers.com... > > It's worse than you think. Under this damned capitalistic system of ours, > > I had to pay $15.00!!! > > For what....the PSA test? Consider yourself lucky. Up here in the land of > socialism, PSA tests are not covered by the healthcare system....even with > cancer....so Ron pays $27 Cdn. He could get free ones at the hospital, but > it is more convenient to nip around the corner to the lab. No. For the lab test, $1700 Lupron shot, DRE and office visit. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 non Illegitimi carborundum
From: Steve Kramer on 26 Oct 2005 21:42
Okay, Fr. Thanks. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 non Illegitimi carborundum "Stavros Moschos" <voyager100(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:L0O7f.9054$Nj3.789062(a)news20.bellglobal.com... > Steve, > > I am trying to absorb all of these messages before rep[lying, but I can't > wait that long. I agree with those who wrote that what is significant is > the doubling rate over a period of time. Surges, especially over short > periods are not significant, so stay steady. My own next PSA is in a couple > of days (at three months rather than six, at my request because I am > curious), and I am taking this advice: don't trouble trouble till trouble > troubles you. > > But why am I saying this to you? You are a model of perfect forbearance. > > Stavros > > "Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote in message > news:Xmc7f.70434$Hs.48497(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > > On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer > > battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test > > and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the > > highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago. > > > > I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the > > doctor's > > office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was > > highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a > > month. > > He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or > > a > > week earlier -- never a month! > > > > Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I > > promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract... > > what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is > > a > > block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am > > used to the SEs. > > > > However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a > > partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little > > testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off > > of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to > > climb > > up a stairway." > > > > So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen > > for > > words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five > > months > > ago. > > > > -- > > PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 > > Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c > > RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins > > PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 > > EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 > > PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 > > Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 > > PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 > > non Illegitimi carborundum > > > > > > > > |