From: Heather on
Hi Puss.....

I am so sorry to hear this.....and I will send a private email. We were out
at the doctor's today ourselves and I am just getting on here now.

"Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later
>>> or a week earlier -- never a month!<<<

Could have been me, or someone answering me. Ron's rad onc said 90
days....never early. A week late is OK. But to stick to the 3 month
interval. How come yours are 4 months??
>
>>> However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a
> partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little
> testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off
> of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to
> climb up a stairway."<<<

Thank you, my dear......I do think you have given me a lead there. I
assumed you were on Casodex like Ron is. (Zoladex, Casodex and Megace).
But he is having an awful time walking and climbing stairs.
>
>>> So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen
>>> for words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from
>>> five months ago.<<<

Steve....you are seeing *60%*.....I am seeing a mere 0.03. Please try to
look at it that way. Remember how Ron's soared 3 full points in 10 days??
That is when you worry!!

And a question here.....according to your tagline, the last PSA was January
2005..did you not have one in between? Perhaps it is a mere 0.01 rise from
4 months ago. Or it is just a fluctuation.

Lots of hugs and you know I will be in your corner, as you were for me!!

Heather
>
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08
> non Illegitimi carborundum
>
>
>


From: Dave P on
Steve,

Your in a holding pattern. Your still <1

Your going to win down the road and beat this thing. So continue to live and
inspire others.

Keep a positive outlook. Duke and John Hopkins are now encouraging those
with a low psa on hormones to get the vaccine therapy to boost the immune
system. A few Doctors and researchers believe it can provide a knockout
punch to the PCa. I know there are other therapies that are showing signs of
progress.

For many of us its about holding on and having faith for the next big
breakthrough - and its coming.

Keep on fighting and never quit.

My prayers are with you and here's looking at a lower psa on the next test.

Dave P

"Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On October 17, 5 years after my PSA that got me started in this cancer
> battle, I had my blood drawn for my 4-month (ended up being 5-month) test
> and Lupron shot. It came back 0.08. By 0.01 of a nanogram, it is the
> highest I've had since starting Lupron 2? years ago.
>
> I was first scheduled for this test and shot one month ago, but the
> doctor's
> office postponed it because the doc was going out of town. My doc was
> highly ticked when he found out that his staff had postponed me by a
> month.
> He also affirmed what someone here said last week. Maybe a week later or
> a
> week earlier -- never a month!
>
> Obviously, my considerations of IADT are rendered moot. I did ask, as I
> promised I would, about switching to another ADT to stave off rafract...
> what is it? Refraction? Regardless, I asked and he said that a block is
> a
> block and it doesn't matter. It's best to stay what I'm on because I am
> used to the SEs.
>
> However, Heather, he did correct himself and said that actually it is a
> partial block. The adrenal gland is still producing very little
> testosterone (which we all knew). "We need some testosterone to live off
> of. If I gave you a complete block, you probably wouldn't be able to
> climb
> up a stairway."
>
> So, having completed my homework assignment, I will back out and listen
> for
> words of encouragement. All I see is a 60% increase in PSA from five
> months
> ago.
>
> --
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
> RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
> PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
> EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
> PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
> Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
> PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08
> non Illegitimi carborundum
>
>
>


From: dan on

"Dave P" <david(a)trsusa.com> wrote in message
news:dVp7f.16462$Bv6.11906(a)twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Steve,
>
> Your in a holding pattern. Your still <1
>
> Your going to win down the road and beat this thing. So continue to live
> and inspire others.
>
> Keep a positive outlook. Duke and John Hopkins are now encouraging those
> with a low psa on hormones to get the vaccine therapy to boost the immune
> system. A few Doctors and researchers believe it can provide a knockout
> punch to the PCa. I know there are other therapies that are showing signs
> of progress.
>
> For many of us its about holding on and having faith for the next big
> breakthrough - and its coming.
>
> Keep on fighting and never quit.
>
> My prayers are with you and here's looking at a lower psa on the next
> test.
>
> Dave P
>

Dave P

Can you provide a little info re: the vaccine therapy for those of us who
don't know as much as we should?

Thanks,

Dan

--
PSA = 2.2 , 03/05/2003
PSA = 7.92, 09/30/2004, @ 54
Biopsy, 11/10/2004, G9(5+4) (multiple cores) (6 of 8 cores positive), T1C
EBRT, 01-03/2005 @55
Casodex (daily), begin. 11/16/2004
Zoladex, 12/23/2004, 03/10/2005, 06/14/2005, 09/14/2005
PSA, 0.1, <0.1, <0.1


From: Dave P on
Duke University, Johns Hopkins, and others are researching vaccine use in
combination with hormone therapy. They have had some positive results. This
is one of a few therapies researchers are trying to perfect. I have provided
a few links below. As I stated in the past, there is so much research being
done today that it is impossible for anyone to follow all the research
studies. My son is a senior this year and applying to colleges. I have
visited a few Bio Tech Universities and have talked to a researchers and all
have stated that medicine is growing expotentially and companies are getting
closer to stopping PCa at the cellular level. Everyone one I talked with
believes it is right around the corner. One stated 2-5 years. I hope he was
right.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050309101235.htm

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2005/03_15a_05.html


"dan" <dan(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave P" <david(a)trsusa.com> wrote in message
> news:dVp7f.16462$Bv6.11906(a)twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Steve,
>>
>> Your in a holding pattern. Your still <1
>>
>> Your going to win down the road and beat this thing. So continue to live
>> and inspire others.
>>
>> Keep a positive outlook. Duke and John Hopkins are now encouraging those
>> with a low psa on hormones to get the vaccine therapy to boost the immune
>> system. A few Doctors and researchers believe it can provide a knockout
>> punch to the PCa. I know there are other therapies that are showing signs
>> of progress.
>>
>> For many of us its about holding on and having faith for the next big
>> breakthrough - and its coming.
>>
>> Keep on fighting and never quit.
>>
>> My prayers are with you and here's looking at a lower psa on the next
>> test.
>>
>> Dave P
>>
>
> Dave P
>
> Can you provide a little info re: the vaccine therapy for those of us who
> don't know as much as we should?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
> --
> PSA = 2.2 , 03/05/2003
> PSA = 7.92, 09/30/2004, @ 54
> Biopsy, 11/10/2004, G9(5+4) (multiple cores) (6 of 8 cores positive), T1C
> EBRT, 01-03/2005 @55
> Casodex (daily), begin. 11/16/2004
> Zoladex, 12/23/2004, 03/10/2005, 06/14/2005, 09/14/2005
> PSA, 0.1, <0.1, <0.1
>


From: Steve Kramer on
"Heather" <figgs(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi Puss.....
>
> I am so sorry to hear this.....and I will send a private email.

It's worse than you think. Under this damned capitalistic system of ours, I
had to pay $15.00!!!

> And a question here.....according to your tagline, the last PSA was
January
> 2005..did you not have one in between?

Corrected.



--
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05
PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08
non Illegitimi carborundum




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