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From: PJF on 1 Apr 2005 00:35
Marlen will send you several sample seals. That's the way I could evaluate
them after reading their description on their web site. Check out:
http://marlenmfg.com/ultraseal.htm


"PJF" <pjfNOSPAM(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mT43e.833$Fh4.382(a)fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> No! They stretch and mold just like the Eakins and hold the shape you
> stretch them to. But, they are much thinner but expand considerably once
> installed under your face plate. So far, they have worked very well.
>
>
> <NoSpamNoSpam(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112289925.223213.50050(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Can you stretch or mold the seals like the Eakins? Are the UnltraSeals
> > like rubberbands; in other words, do they contract back to the original
> > shape?
> > Thanks so much for the info.!
> >
> > PJF wrote:
> > > First, let me say that for all but the last year and a half, I've
> > used Eakin
> > > seals. They were a God-send. And I'm immensely grateful to Jeremy
> > Eakin's
> > > firm in Northern Ireland for having developed them and marketed them
> > in the
> > > U.S. Prior to my using them, I would have frequent and unexpected
> > leakage
> > > that caused me considerable inconvenience and, occasionally, some
> > terribly
> > > embarrassing moments. The Eakin Seals pretty much solved that for
> > me.
> > >
> > > More recently, however, I changed from the Marlen two-piece pouch and
> > > faceplate to Convetec's Natura 2-piece faceplate and pouch. While the
> > > Convetec faceplate has its own seal, I felt I needed an extra measure
> > of
> > > protection. So, I have added Marlen Mfg.'s UltraSeal Hydrocolloid
> > Barrier
> > > Rings (seals). P/N 09500. The results have been very satisfactory.
> > In about
> > > the last year and a half, I've had perhaps two or three occasions
> > where the
> > > seal leaked. Needless to say, I am well pleased with the service and
> > > security this combination of Marlen seals and Convectec's Natura
> > pouches has
> > > provided. I normally change the faceplate weekly just to be safe but
> > I have
> > > had occasions where I've worn it without a problem for as long as 10
> > days.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > PJF
> > >
> > >
> > > "harmonica" <harmonica_au(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4244f719$0$12159$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > > You have to pay 7 to 8 dollars for an eakin seal!!
> > > > Thats discusting.
> > > > John H(I)
> > > > <NoSpamNoSpam(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1111732060.665904.297770(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > Margaret,
> > > > > The Eakin Seals are the best product that Convatec makes. The
> > wafers
> > > > > and the high output pouches are the best products that Coloplast
> > makes
> > > > > in my opinion after trying "everything". The only shame of the
> > Eakin
> > > > > Seals are the 7 to 8 dollar a seal price for them! This price
> > should
> > > > > put the company to shame!
> > > > > It is just a seal for goodness sake. It is the only seal that
> > works
> > > > > for me, although. You put it on the wafer close to the border of
> > the
> > > > > hole on the wafer and put your finger through that opening and
> > make it
> > > > > even with the edges. Then put the whole thing over the stoma
> > while you
> > > > > hold the stoma with gauze so that the drippings go into the
> > gauze. I
> > > > > apply tincture of benzoin and let it dry before the application
> > to make
> > > > > the appliance stick like superglue.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Margaret Wilson wrote:
> > > > >> I had my ileostomy on 12/26/2004. And I'm having trouble with
> > > > > stomach acid
> > > > >> eating the wafer and then my skin. My ET (whose last visit will
> > be
> > > > > next
> > > > >> week) said to use powder and change my bag & wafer every other
> > day
> > > > > till the
> > > > >> skin heals. Well I've had to change it *every* day to get it to
> > > > > heal. She
> > > > >> also suggested I switch to an extra durable wafer, which has
> > helped
> > > > > some. I
> > > > >> finally settled on Coloplast's Assura Extra wafer (60mm
> > cut-to-fit),
> > > > > and
> > > > >> their wide easi-close bag. I continued to use powder (and no
> > barrier
> > > > > wipe,
> > > > >> per Coloplast's instructions.) This seemed to be working OK,
> > though
> > > > > I still
> > > > >> had some irritation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But last night I noticed blood coming from my stoma edges,
> > though it
> > > > > finally
> > > > >> did stop and clot. I'd just put the new wafer on on Wednesday!
> > So
> > > > > this
> > > > >> morning I changed the wafer and bag, and I could see that it's
> > > > > bleeding
> > > > >> because of leakage between wafer and stoma. Coloplast sent me
> > these
> > > > > 4x4
> > > > >> skin barrier sticky things (kind of like an Eakin seal I
> > guess?), and
> > > > > they'd
> > > > >> said to put that on under the wafer. So I put one of those on.
> > The
> > > > > lady at
> > > > >> Coloplast said that this skin barrier would act like a bandaid
> > till
> > > > > the skin
> > > > >> heals. Convatec keeps saying they're sending me an Eakin seal
> > to
> > > > > try, but
> > > > >> nothing ever arrives. My question is, has anyone tried both the
> > > > > Eakin seal
> > > > >> and this Coloplast 4x4 (or larger) skin barrier (not the wipe!)
> > and
> > > > > can
> > > > >> compare them for me? From what I've read you can put the Eakin
> > seal
> > > > > on tbe
> > > > >> cut wafer and then stick that to your belly, whereas this
> > Coloplast
> > > > > thing
> > > > >> has to go on first, giving my stoma time to start spewing.
> > Also,
> > > > > what about
> > > > >> paste? Might that be better? Or do I have to wait to try paste
> > till
> > > > > this
> > > > >> thing heals up?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ideas? Suggestions?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks and Regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Margaret
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>


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