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From: Kurt on 12 Mar 2006 03:12
Please continue this discussion about non-meat meal basics here in this
thread.

Thank you...

Kurt

From: Anil on 12 Mar 2006 09:25
Kurt

Since Amy did create a thread on Vegetarianism and there is some
discussion there I would put my replies in that thread. I know what you
are saying is that you don't really care as long as your main thread
of input to ADA remains just that!

Thanks for that efforts.

Anil

From: W.M.McKee on 12 Mar 2006 12:08
On 12 Mar 2006 00:12:58 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Please continue this discussion about non-meat meal basics here in this
>thread.
>
>Thank you...
>
>Kurt

Hi Kurt,

I do not claim to be a vegetarian, but my diet is about 90%
vegetarian, meaning I eat mostly veggies and non-meat things most of
the time, supplementing with small amounts of fish, chicken, turkey,
lean beef, or pork about 3-4 times a week.. Also, I have eggs maybe
twice a week and small amounts of cheeese, usually gouda, jarlsberg,
or a sharp cheddar 2-3 times a week.

I tend to focus on greens, cruciferous veggies, beans (including
lentils and chickpeas), mushrooms, artichokes, olives, nuts, berries,
and anything else edible and tasty that is not processed. Ergo, I try
to avoid altogether anything with trans fats, and I try to moderate,
but not eliminate saturated fats.... About the only bread I have is in
the way of sprouted whole grain breads..... Cottage cheese and sour
cream work great on salads, by the way, along with red wine vinegar
and onions.... My total calorie consumption is rarely more than
1200-1500 on any given day.

I have found that if I just stick to my basic plan, I can nearly
always keep the blood glucose under the tight control advocated here
in asd..... Never over 140, 1 hr post prandial, never over 110-120, 2
hrs post prandial, and nearly always 85-105 upon waking in the AM. I'd
say that is more than I ever expected to achieve, considering how far
gone I was just a year ago, when I was diagnosed. The inflammations
have gone, and while some neuropathy remains in the right foot, it
does not seem as bad.

The great thing about this approach is that it allows for maximum
flexibility, while allowing me to really savor and enjoy a wide
variety of great foods, including the occasional imibibing of
salubrious amounts of wine and spirits. That is where Pete Romph has
really helped out with his fabulous recipes. Thank you, Pete. We love
you!

Here's to happy eating, everyone! Salut!

Will, T2
From: Pete Romfh on 12 Mar 2006 13:23
W.M.McKee wrote:
> The great thing about this approach is that it allows for
> maximum flexibility, while allowing me to really savor
> and enjoy a wide variety of great foods, including the
> occasional imibibing of salubrious amounts of wine and
> spirits. That is where Pete Romph has really helped out
> with his fabulous recipes. Thank you, Pete. We love you!
>
> Here's to happy eating, everyone! Salut!
>
> Will, T2

Glad to help out. I'm having fun creating new treats.

--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org


From: Quentin Grady on 12 Mar 2006 13:49
This post not CC'd by email
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:08:29 -0500, W.M.McKee <wmmckee(a)cox.net>
wrote:

>On 12 Mar 2006 00:12:58 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965(a)hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Please continue this discussion about non-meat meal basics here in this
>>thread.
>>
>>Thank you...
>>
>>Kurt
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>I do not claim to be a vegetarian, but my diet is about 90%
>vegetarian, meaning I eat mostly veggies and non-meat things most of
>the time, supplementing with small amounts of fish, chicken, turkey,
>lean beef, or pork about 3-4 times a week.. Also, I have eggs maybe
>twice a week and small amounts of cheeese, usually gouda, jarlsberg,
>or a sharp cheddar 2-3 times a week.
>
>I tend to focus on greens, cruciferous veggies, beans (including
>lentils and chickpeas), mushrooms, artichokes, olives, nuts, berries,
>and anything else edible and tasty that is not processed. Ergo, I try
>to avoid altogether anything with trans fats, and I try to moderate,
>but not eliminate saturated fats.... About the only bread I have is in
>the way of sprouted whole grain breads..... Cottage cheese and sour
>cream work great on salads, by the way, along with red wine vinegar
>and onions.... My total calorie consumption is rarely more than
>1200-1500 on any given day.

G'day G'day Will,

If anyone was looking for a good starting place, wondering what a T2
diabetic should eat then this description provided of your diet could
be a template. It is not vegan yet it incorporates the strengths of
vegan diet. It is not vegetarian yet it incorporates their strengths
also. Notice the breadth of the diet, greens, lentils, chickpeas,
mushrooms, artichokes, olives, nuts, berries, Essene style bread,
onions, cottage cheese, salads, red wine vinegar and a little fish
chicken, turkey, lean beef and pork.

You even made an excellent choice for legumes ... lentils and
chickpeas are reputed to produce less farting that some others of the
bean family. Frankly I can't flaw it, or suggest any improvements.

>I have found that if I just stick to my basic plan, I can nearly
>always keep the blood glucose under the tight control advocated here
>in asd..... Never over 140, 1 hr post prandial, never over 110-120, 2
>hrs post prandial, and nearly always 85-105 upon waking in the AM. I'd
>say that is more than I ever expected to achieve, considering how far
>gone I was just a year ago, when I was diagnosed. The inflammations
>have gone, and while some neuropathy remains in the right foot, it
>does not seem as bad.
>
>The great thing about this approach is that it allows for maximum
>flexibility, while allowing me to really savor and enjoy a wide
>variety of great foods, including the occasional imibibing of
>salubrious amounts of wine and spirits. That is where Pete Romph has
>really helped out with his fabulous recipes. Thank you, Pete. We love
>you!
>
>Here's to happy eating, everyone! Salut!
>
>Will, T2

Fabulous.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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