From: Geoff on
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner"
<patgardiner(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone.
>
>However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the
>food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and
>the British authorities.
>
>In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness
>is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine.
>
>(Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately
>designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and
>pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.)
>
>Quote
>
>6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has
>been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can
>set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted
>to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection.
>Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass
>condemnation is likely.

I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that
infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to
explaining the surge in illness.

Go veggie.

>Unquote
>
>http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/01/05/100578/nadis-pig-disease-focus-december-2006.html
>
>Special Reports
>
>You are in: Home > Special Reports > Animal Health
>NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006
>
>05/01/2007 12:00:00
>
>FWi
>
>NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges
>monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK.
>NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences
>before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead.
>NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase
>awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and
>control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised
>to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary
>surgeon.
>
>NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006
>
>Whole Carcass Condemnation
>
>Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS
>
>

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***************************
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- Albert Schweitzer

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The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .
From: Burkie on
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I
want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position
of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by
your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have
mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of
people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the
Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers
must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still
requires you to patronize some of them as your source.

Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so?

Must make you feel good.

Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to
destroy other people's livings.

But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant
investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the
non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from
who-knows-where.

I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours.


Burkie
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Geoff wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner"
> <patgardiner(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone.
> >
> >However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the
> >food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and
> >the British authorities.
> >
> >In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness
> >is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine.
> >
> >(Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately
> >designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and
> >pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.)
> >
> >Quote
> >
> >6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has
> >been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can
> >set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted
> >to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection.
> >Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass
> >condemnation is likely.
>
> I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that
> infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to
> explaining the surge in illness.
>
> Go veggie.
>
> >Unquote
> >
> >http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/01/05/100578/nadis-pig-disease-focus-december-2006.html
> >
> >Special Reports
> >
> >You are in: Home > Special Reports > Animal Health
> >NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006
> >
> >05/01/2007 12:00:00
> >
> >FWi
> >
> >NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges
> >monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK.
> >NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences
> >before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead.
> >NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase
> >awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and
> >control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised
> >to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary
> >surgeon.
> >
> >NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006
> >
> >Whole Carcass Condemnation
> >
> >Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS
> >
> >
>
> --
>
>
> ***************************
> "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
> spare yourself the sight."
> - Albert Schweitzer
>
> Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video.
> This powerful film, containing shocking images,
> just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
> Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
> and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing
>
> 1.I was forced to as a child.
> 2.People who make soap are only after your money.
> 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
> 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
> 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
> 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
> 7.None of my friends wash.
> 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
> 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
> 10.I can't spare the time .

From: Jim Webster on

"Burkie" <Burkie50(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1168118432.310816.301320(a)11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
> is yours, not mine.


pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a
veggie

Jim Webster


From: Geoff on
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
<jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Burkie" <Burkie50(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1168118432.310816.301320(a)11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
>> Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
>> is yours, not mine.
>
>
>pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a
>veggie
>

Go veggie.
--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid�s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .
From: Ronald 'More-More' Moshki on

Burkie wrote:
> Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
> is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I
> want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position
> of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by
> your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have
> mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of
> people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the
> Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers
> must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still
> requires you to patronize some of them as your source.
>
> Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
> is that your fetal attempt to do so?
>
> Must make you feel good.
>
> Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to
> destroy other people's livings.
>
> But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant
> investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the
> non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from
> who-knows-where.
>
> I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours.
>
>
> Burkie

Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is
lucky the latter does not exist.
>