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From: Steve B on 12 Oct 2008 18:00 Since someone asked I thought I might bore you all with my PCA journal. Feel free to ask any questions. My Oncologist wants to start Taxotere every 3 weeks. I think he should try it himself first. As you could guess I am not too keen on taxotere. Makes your hair fall out and your fingernails rot, and those are the good side effects. Steve B PCD: age 57, Dx 2-2007 PSA History 5-2004 1.6 7-2005 3.1 9-2006 6.5 11-2006 9.6 TURSP Vol 35cc 2-2007 Bone Scan 3-2007 Positive hips, cervical thorax MRI Pelvis 3-2007 Positive bone mets in ischium MRI Cervical Spine Positive C7 Vertebrea GS at local lab. 3-2007 3/3 cores R + GS(5,4) 80%PC 6/6 cores Center + GS(5,4) 80%PC 3/3 cores L + GS(5,4) 80%PC CS T4Mb 3-2007 Radiation external beam for C7 on 7-2007 MRI Cervical Spine C7 reduced.11-2007 TURSP Vol 30cc 12-2007 Rx CHT 3-2007 Elligard each 3 months Cassodex 150 mg Zometa Infusion 4mg every month. 6-2008 Changed doctors Lupron Injections on one month schedule. Zometta Infusions every 3 months. Reduced Cassodex to 50 mg/D Added Avodart .5 mg/D PSA Results PSA .01 11-2007 PSA .01 1-2008 PSA .31 3-2008 PSA .38 4-2008 PSA 1.2 6-2008 PSA 1.5 6-2008 PSA 1.8 7-2008 PSA 2.8 8-2008 PSA 3.77 10-2008 Detailed Medical History: 5/1/2004 PSA 1.5 7/1/2005 PSA 3.1 9/1/2006 PSA 6.5 11/27/2006 PSA 9.6 1/3/2007 OV Consult Urologist 01/17/2007 Ultrasound 37 grams 01/18/2007 OV 01/20/2007 Lung X-Ray negative 02/21/2007 OV 02/26/2007 Prostate Biopsy 02/26/2007 Pca DX: Right 3 of 3 90% GS 9: Left 3 of 3 75% GS9: Base 6 of 6 50% to 80% GS9: Perinural invasion + 03/05/2007 OV 3/7/2007 Blood OK 03/17/2007 CT Scan Ab and Pelvis <1 cm pelvis lymph nodes 03/26/2007 Elligard 1 MO 03/27/2007 Bone Scan + Left Ischium Sternal Notch 03/29/2007 OV 03/30/2007 MRI Pelvis + Right and Left Ischium 04/03/2007 MRI Cervical Sp + C7 04/04/2007 OV 04/06/2007 MRI Sternum + Sternoclavicular Joint 04/10/2007 OV 04/10/2007 Blood OK 04/11/2007 Elligard 1 MO 04/23/2007 Consult Oncology 04/27/2007 Blood OK 05/02/2007 Zometta 05/10/2007 - Radiation Oncologist 06/01/2007 Radiation C7 Spine 3600 GY 18 MV Photons 06/06/2007 Zometta 06/18/2007 Elligard 3 MO 07/05/2007 PSA <.1 07/05/2007 Blood OK 07/11/2007 Zometta 08/15/2007 Zometta 08/23/2007 OV 08/23/2007 Lipid High Thyroid OFF 09/05/2007 CT Scan Chest, Ab, Pelvis, Pelvic Lymph OK, Sclerotic lesions in L3, L4, Iliac 09/11/2007 MRI Cevical Spine Reduction of C7 Lesion 09/13/2007 OV Adjust Thyroid 09/13/2007 Blood OK TSH High 09/19/2007 Zometta 09/24/2007 Blood OK TSH High 09/24/2007 Elligard 3 MO 10/02/2007 Blood OK 10/02/2007 OV Adjust Thyroid 10/18/2007 Severe Bone Pain in Sternum 10/18/2007 Blood OK TSH OK 10/24/2007 Zometta 10/26/2007 Bone Scan + Sternal Notch 10/29/2007 Radiation Oncologist 10/29/2007 Consult Oncology 10/29/2007 PSA <.1 Uric Acid Low 11/01/2007 Radiation to Sternum and Colar Bone due to severe pain 11/19/2007 Consult Oncology 11/23/2007 OV Pain in Back 11/26/2007 OV Urologist 11/29/2007 OV Followup 11/29/2007 Blood OK 12/05/2007 Zometta 12/21/2007 Radiation Oncologist 12/26/2007 Elligard 12/27/2007 Ultrasound of Prostate size 26 grams 12/28/2007 MRI Thorax L3, L4, L5 Suspicious 12/28/2007 MRI Lumbar C7, T8, T10 Suspicious 01/03/2008 OV Followup 01/07/2008 Zometta 01/09/2008 OV Urologist 01/10/2008 OV Followup 01/10/2008 BLOOD OK 02/14/2008 OV Followup 02/14/2008 Blood OK 02/20/2008 Zometta 03/03/2008 OV Followup 04/02/2008 PSA .31 04/07/2008 Eligard 1 MO 04/09/2008 Zometta 04/10/2008 Bone Scan None Detected Servical Collarbone 04/11/2008 Radioligist followup 04/21/2008 PSA .38 04/21/2008 OV Pain in Groin 04/21/2008 OV Urologist 04/24/2008 Cystophaphy of Bladder Slight narrowing of ureathera in prostate region 05/05/2008 Urodyanamic Study 05/07/2008 Eligard 1 MO 05/08/2008 OV Followup 05/08/2008 BLOOD Ok 05/19/2008 Zometta 6/3/2008 Dr. C Initial Consult New oncologist PSA 1.2 PAP 2.1, CEA 1.8, Prolactin all in normal range. Testerone <20 Very good consultation. Zometta to be given every 3 months Dr. C to review biopsy slides. 6/9/2008 Lupron 1 month injection Reduce Casodex to 50mg from 150mg Start Avodart 0.5 mg per day 7-7-08 Dr. C PSA 1.5 Lupron 1 month DC Casodex 8-4-08 PSA 1.8 lupron 1 month Zometa 9-5-08 PSA 2.7 Lopron 1 month PAP 4 CEA 4 Added Nilutamide 10-4-08 PSA 3.77 Lupron 1 month -- Steve B Date of Birth 12-1950 Dx date 2-2007:CS=T4N1Mb, age57:1st measured PSA 1.6, 5-2004:PSA at DX 9.6 , gleason 9, psa doubling time at Dx 3.5 mo: Treatment ADT Lupron | Searching for a cure for androgen independent PCa | Last measured PSA 3.77 10/4/08, last psa doubling time 3.5 month, T< 20 Esitmated survival time 2 years. This disease sucks...
From: Steve Jordan on 12 Oct 2008 20:49 On October 12, Steve B wrote: > Since someone asked I thought I might bore you all with my PCA journal. Thanks for the information. It's similar to my "PCa Digest" and helps to track what's happening. > My Oncologist wants to start Taxotere every 3 weeks. I think he should > try it himself first. As you could guess I am not too keen on > taxotere. Makes your hair fall out and your fingernails rot, and those > are the good side effects. Well, maybe the choice is this stark: Taxotere (docetaxel) or death. An ugly one. There are too many horror stories about Taxotere. True, it can be difficult. The famous Dr. Charles E. (Snuffy) Myers has referred to it as "poison control." (Well, sez I, exercise control of the poison and reap the reward) Here is a link to an essay by Richard Lam, MD, one of the few and brilliant PCa medical oncologists. I know that Dr. Strum, mentioned previously by Steve B, knows him very well: http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/andind/Lam_TaxotereSideEffects.html There are folks on this list and others who seem to me to take perverse pleasure in mooing about this or that SE of treatments (txs). I note that they never, ever, propose a solution -- a means of alleviating whatever it is (however rare it may be). This, IMO, is dishonest and, worse, can lead to avoidable suffering. Thus the present case: Steve B has evidently heard horror stories about SEs of chemotherapy, but not one word about how to deal with them. It seems to this amateur that Steve B is in great danger and should consult with expert medial oncologists AND NOT ONLINE AMATEURS, in order to preserve his life. Regards, Steve J
From: Alan Meyer on 13 Oct 2008 13:53 Hello Steve B. I'm sorry to hear about your condition. There's not much I can add to Steve Jordan's advice except that at least some oncologists believe that earlier chemotherapy does more good than later chemotherapy and provides longer life extension. I would also suggest that you consider enrolling in a clinical trial of one of the experimental therapies. You can find out about clinical trials at the following websites: Lots of info about prostate cancer, with links to clinical trial information: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/prostate Simple searches for clinical trials of all types: http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ If one of the trials that you find looks interesting to you, call the phone number listed for the trial. You'll probably be put in touch with a nurse, resident or intern who can explain the trial, answer any questions you have, and tell you whether you might be a candidate for the trial. Trials are often free, and you will get a free examination and consultation before you are accepted with a doctor who is probably a real expert on prostate cancer. Best of luck to you. Alan
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