From: ahmward on
My daughter suggested skating as exercise, roller, ice or in line.

Audrey
From: Jangchub on
On 2 Jan 2006 14:20:52 -0800, "Lisa M" <lisa(a)lmdesigns.com> wrote:


>> Do you still resent your mother?
>
>No--but I'm starting to resent you. Do you have anything at all
>positive to add to the discussion?

You don't ilicit positive reactions. Are you starting to at least see
that? I have added what I thought was best. Counceling. You do not
seem to me to be a loving parent. You are more about how this effects
you. If you examine yourself with honesty, you will come to this
conclusion. I am not going to make you feel good with positive or
negative. It is what it is.


>No--this is about healthy weight management. "Kid", "child" --what's
>the difference? I'm not getting anything positive out of what you're
>saying here.

There is a huge difference. You are very insensitive. I think this
is your problem.

>> My grandmother never excersized a day in her life and she is 97.
>
>And your point is?

You know what my point was. You go think about it.

>You're very negative.

I am a reflection of your words here. I suggest you think about it
long and hard and come to your own conclusions.
From: Lesanne on
>> Dad is an avid cyclist, and the kids have joined him in that at times.
>> Personally, I'm not convinced this is the best physical activity for
>> girls that age, since it takes more than just tooling around the block
>> to have some affect.

I bike. I have a polar monitor that I use to judge the intensity of exercise
because I tend to not push myself as I get better at new things and it nags
me when my heart rate drops at all. Wind, hills, all kinds of things (of
course speed) all affect the intensity. Also the type of bike. I can get my
heart rate up faster and keep it up there easier on my bicycle although it
doesn't "feel" difficult. There is that freedom of zipping along. It takes a
lot more effort to get the rate up when I am walking/jogging. The only thing
that compares actually is a really advanced aerobics tape, like the advanced
Tai Bo tape, or Mindy whats her names cardio boot camp.

>> early age-which coincided with my childhood weight-gain...) I'd
>> like to hear other peoples' accounts on how they believe parental
>> love or spousal love plays into our eating behaviors.

In my own case my Mom could not hide her disgust about my appearance. This
began when I was truly not obese, just a chubby teen. I really think it was
a deeper issue, she has a lot of problems from her own childhood, but I felt
it and as a child got a message that something was very wrong with me as a
person. The interesting thing is that my Mom really does (did when she was
cognitively able anyway, she has Alzheimers) love me. I am quite sure she
believed that her insistence on me dieting was the right thing to do for me.
I truly think that it was partly due to her own body image problems, her
reaction to mine was inappropriate and extreme. Unconditional love to me
means that my Mom thinks I am beautiful. I have a granddaughter that we are
being really careful with. We let her choose what she wants to eat from the
foods we have in the house, as well as the times to eat. We play outside a
lot, and time TV and computer to 30 minutes two or three times a day. My
daughter is overweight, no doubt partly due to my own struggles. Amber is
sometimes a little chubby, then the next month she appears too thin. We
don't draw attention to any of that. We tell her constantly what a perfectly
beautiful person she is. That is what I mean by unconditional love in regard
to food and body.

The latest research strongly suggests that children not diet at all. By this
I don't mean eat junk. I have a ton of articles if you would like some
links, or I can send you copies if you have acrobat on your computer and
want to share an e mail address. The research advocates limiting time spent
in front of the TV or computers, and providing healthy choices, but not
limiting the quantity of food they choose. Recommendations are to focus
interventions on setting time limits for sedentary activities, as opposed to
putting an emphasis on the food. Teens need healthy fats as well, more than
we do.

As far as artificial sweeteners are concerned equal is without a doubt a
problem substance, and extreme overconsumption of splenda has been linked
with shrinkage of the thymus gland. I use a limited amount of splenda, and
stevia (a natural product with a taste that you have to work to acquire ;)).
I also use fruit juice concentrate sometimes. White sugar is every bit as
unhealthy as splenda, and if you are looking into things that are bad for
kids you need to put a lot of meats on the list as well, with the overuse of
antibiotics and hormones. There are studies in countries that do not have
such a powerful beef lobby that link beef consumption to early puberty in
girls. But then that is a whole other thing.

I have a class beginning tomorrow and will be scarce around here, enjoyed
this thread.
--
Lesanne
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>> belly dancing DVD. The three of us did it in the den, and we had a
>> great time! The older one wanted no part of it, which I think is
>> partially due to my involvement, her kid sister's involvement and the
>> fact that she thinks that now that she's 13 she gets to be a princess
>> (which she has mentioned specifically a number of times.)
>>
>> I like the idea of healthier snacks, but I'm against any of the
>> artificial sweeteners in anything. If I look, I'm sure I can find
>> some WW core recipes that offer good dessert options without too much
>> artificial ingredients.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> I have a question...I'm seeing lots of posts mentioning unconditional
>> love & giving love. Would anyone care to expand on this? (The kids'
>> mother for the most part abandoned them, and MY father left us at an


From: ahmward on

"Lesanne" <larnim48(a)nothotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have a class beginning tomorrow and will be scarce around here,
> enjoyed this thread.
> --
> Lesanne

Are you taking a class or teaching it? I really enjoy your posts.

I think I've raised three children with a very healthy attitude about
food, diet and exercise. All three are in their twenties. I think so
many people with weight issues have had problems with their parents so
they are naturally protective of children and want to shield them from
anything negative. I think if asked the question, have you ever sneaked
food, almost 99% would raise our hands. It's not uncommon at all. I
have never ever mentioned it to the one child of mine who has done it.
It is that child's issue to deal with but what I can do is provide a
nuturing environment, lots of healthy food choices and positive
reinforcement. Shoot, I need positive reinforcement myself all the
time.

Audrey

From: Lisa M on
You're psychotic.