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Women and Children of CFIDS + Men
WACOC + M

~* A comment or two*~

A message from Laurie, daughter of long time CFIDS patient and
advocate Nancy Kaiser.

It is with great sadness for our family and friends to have lost my
mom, Nancy to end stages of CFIDS yesterday, June 14, 2008. The last
6 months my mom has declined in health. I was blessed to have moved
her close to me and we spent a lot of quality time together. Her
illness drastically changed in the last two weeks as she was put in
Hospice care. What ever the neurological event was the finally took
her is unknown at this point, but we will be finding out the cause of
death. To all her friends in the CFIDS community, long term friends
from growing up in Olean and to those who were here in Albuquerque,
you all were such an important part of her world. Being so disabled,
her computer and phone conversations were her lifeline. To our family
who live all over the country, it was family bonds that she treasured
most. She would have done any thing for anyone if capable. She will
be missed by so many. The part you need to know is that she was at
without pain in a coma for several days. As I stood and looked at
her, I saw peace for the first time in 30 some years. This is
difficult for my dad as his health is declining as well.

I know my mom is in heaven looking down on all of us right now. I
hope you know the impact you made on her life as she shared so many
stories with me. My mom was a fighter until the end. She always hoped
that her long journey with CFIDS would help someone else. That was
her goal. I pray you are all able to take away many good memories of
Nancy, known as patient "00". My brother Jim is here to help with
lots of things we need to take care of. My mom's wishes were
cremation and no public service. No flowers please, but if you wish
to honor my mother, please make contributions in her name to :
The National CFIDS Foundation,
103 Aletha Rd, Needham, MA 02492-3931.
There are so many people I have probably missed. Feel free to forward
this to anyone who knew my mom. Feel free to correspond to me by this
e-mail address.

Thanks to everyone. I will always have my mom to look up to and that
I will never forget her legacy.

Love, Laurie

~

My prayers are with you and your's, Laurie.

Years of exposing what took place concerning ampligen, how it was
first made, where, and several years of further released studies --
let's take a closer look at the wisdom and concern Nancy Kaiser shared
as the first CFIDS ampligen patient number 00 over the years.

Nancy's voice, her journey, her own awakening, her encouragement and
dedication has allowed other CFIDS patients to make up their own
minds.

Nancy had a personal experience with ampligen. She had a right to
voice her opinions, even if it meant, warning others.

In the USA...will it be up to Congress, as to, what the real name is
or the sick and dead patients', doctors', scientists' due to the
research presented over the past 20+ years?

Who will make the final decision for sick and dying patients in the
USA, UK, Europe, Asia, and all other Countries throughout our world?

Nancy Kaiser died knowing the truth will prevail.
May she be at peace for ever more.

My deepest and heart felt condolences to all who, knew, loved, cared
and kept Nancy and her loved one's in your prayers, my prayers are
with you. I've spoken to Gail Kansky, President and Editor of The
National CFIDS Foundation, other's I have emailed and have followed
Lauries wishes by letting you know.

Nancy never doubted I would share her message world wide. She also
knew I wouldn't be able to be at her graveside to say our last goodbye
due to my husbands, my immediate family members and my own health
issues. In her own way, Nancy's last emails were her way of allowing
us to say good bye without actually, saying goodbye.

She has supported me through many trying times. Recently, when I
shared with her latest test results indicating its not cancer, her
messagae was, "Praise God!"

Valid research & awareness has allowed many of us to become aware of
past and present events of those suffering ME -itis, PPS, MS, FM,
CFIDS, CFS, GWI, PTSD, LUPUS, RA, PARKINSON, LYME, Thyroid,
Scleroderma, Raynauds, Lymphoma, Bone and Brain Cancer's and so many
other diseases.

Valid research holds all the answer's.

Curable illnesses are one thing, but as so many of us understand it,
there is no cure for radiation poisoning.

Google: Radiation Poisoning
Google: Nuclear Accidents
Google: Beyond Nuclear
Google: Nothing Depleted About Depleted Uranium

Not a one of us world wide have been untouched by nuclear
contaminations via our, air streams and ground water.

Hillary Johnson discussed Chernobyl via email about our air streams as
well as the viruses involved, including, EBV, there are so many other
viruses mentioned within our online patient community, including HHV6,
STD, and AIDS.

My son, as a teenager suffered in the 1980's mononucleosis -- EVB
virus and developed ulcertaive colitis. So Far, after many years, 6MP
is the only thing between him and surgery to remove a section of his
bowel or worse. Recently, his 6MP had to be doubled. I ask for your
prayers.

At the same time as the outbreak of monocucleosis there was also
Kawasaki Disease which affected the younger children.

Kawasaki Disease
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4634

Hillary Johnsons' research is based on truth and it's been proven as
such. She has written an addendum to Osler's Web.

As I've mentioned once before, I've not yet read her addendum.

But I did read: A CFS Interview with RESCIND Founder Tom Hennessy.

Why would certain organizations within our online community abuse sick
patients such as Hillary Johnson and Tom Hennessy of RESCIND and
others?

Why did the CFIDS Association of America, (CAA) react to Hillary
Johnson's investigations, Tom Hennessy and many other organization's,
in the manner's witnessed the past 20+ years by advocates, sick online
patient's and other's?

These attempts to censor sick patients and or any one posting the
truth ~ so ~ others world wide would be able to be more aware, be more
alert and be safe are a black mark in CFIDS advocating history, world
wide.

What has been done is beyond comprehending, at times.

Has the nightmare ended for them because of speaking up while sharing
their own journey and awakening's? The nightmare has finally ended,
for a dear friend and advocate, Nancy Kaiser.

I have no problem with Tom Hennessy's message, only his cursing :-)

R.E.S.C.I.N.D.
http://www.rescind.org

Concerning our newsgroups and lists, are you guilty of censoring a
sick patients voice?

Personal, vulgar, shunning, censoring, and acts of theft attacks took
center stage against some who were involved advocating and in clinical
research trials who reported their experiences over the past 20+
years.

For me, all that has been shared has been an eye opener since 1997.

It seems the exposure of certain private and government organizations
mentioned, by Hillary Johnson and Nancy Kaiser and many other
advocates, do indeed, need to be addressed by our media sources
available to us.

If the rumor is true that it was Jane Perlmutter of the CAA, Treasurer
of the CFIDS Association of America (CAA) and a member of the Long
Island Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Association then this too, needs to be
addressed .
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/4225/

June Perlmutter: Zoom info Business People Information
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=21169985

I have often thought about Jane Perlmutter ever since I heard the
rumor. I pray it is not true. If it is, then why would a CAA
member / supporter do such a thing?

The FBI has never given me the name of the women located with the
computer the death threat originated from which was tracked to a Long
Island, NY address. During this time of my life, Nancy Kaiser has been
one of the person's within our online community who gave me support
and understanding. I will miss her so very much.

Our patient online community deserves the truth.

CFIDS/ME Patient Memorial List
http://www.ncf-net.org/memorial.htm

There is no time for not allowing the truth.

Our online support communities world wide only desire for all involved
to observe over the 4,000 articles of research mentioned and
presented.

USA Research
The National CFIDS Foundation Medical Discoveries (NCF)
http://www.ncf-net.org/Discoveries.htm

Veteran's United For Truth
http://www.vuft.org/

The Facts and the Politics of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - TCJRME
http://www.geocities.com/tcjrme/

Turning The Spotlight on Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction
Syndrome/Myalgic Encephalomyelitis
R.E.S.C.I.N.D.
http://www.rescindinc.org/

Sophisticated Investigation
http://www.geocities.com/sezar99q/SOPHISTICATED.html

Autism, Gulf War -Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Vaccines
http://www.geocities.com/sezar99q/AutismGWS-ME.html

Betrayal By the Brain: Dr. Jay Goldstein
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mecfs/general/goldstein_summary.html

Read and or google the following:

Osler's Web by Hillary Johnson, Investigative Journalist

Perchlorate

Dioxin

Nuclear Accidents

Thanks to those who shared this following link to information via your
web sites. I've read and reread and printed out a copy and keep it at
my desk.

What To Do If A Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent
www.ki4u.com/guide.htm

Medicare to share data with FDA
http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/health/ny-hsfill265703103may26,0,3618073.story

Soft hugs & Prayers!

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse

"What lies behind us and what lies before us, are tiny matters,
compared to what lies within us"
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
From: DGSaba on

Women and Children of CFIDS + Men
WACOC + M

~*A comment or two*~

Happy Summer!

June 20th summer began!

Thyroid and cancer, O' my...
Rev up your search engines: Sodium Dichromate Poisoning

Please respond to Congress before July 1.

Tell Congress to Protect Medicare Advantage
http://capwiz.com/protectyouradvantage/issues/alert/?alertid=11461841&type=CO

Heath Care Reform
Dr. Coburn Urges Politicians to Put Patients Ahead of Politics
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HealthCareReform.Home

GAO finds tax abuse in Medicare program
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=LatestNews.NewsStories&ContentRecord_id=a77d7c30-802a-23ad-46ff-08297b75d361&Issue_id=

Medical Fraud a Growing Problem
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=LatestNews.NewsStories&ContentRecord_id=83b38a6f-802a-23ad-4089-88969f79454d&Issue_id=

Washington Waste of the Week
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=WashingtonWasteOfWeek.Home

CFIDS/ME Patient Memorial List
http://www.ncf-net.org/memorial.htm

There is no time for not allowing the truth.

Our online support community member's world wide only desire for all
involved to observe the over 4,000 articles of research mentioned and
presented.

USA Research
The National CFIDS Foundation Medical Discoveries (NCF)
http://www.ncf-net.org/Discoveries.htm

Veteran's United For Truth
http://www.vuft.org/

The Facts and the Politics of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - TCJRME
http://www.geocities.com/tcjrme/

Turning The Spotlight on Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction
Syndrome/Myalgic Encephalomyelitis
R.E.S.C.I.N.D.
http://www.rescindinc.org/

Sophisticated Investigation
http://www.geocities.com/sezar99q/SOPHISTICATED.html

Autism, Gulf War -Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Vaccines
http://www.geocities.com/sezar99q/AutismGWS-ME.html

Betrayal By the Brain: Dr. Jay Goldstein
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mecfs/general/goldstein_summary.html

The following web site has been helpful in explaining...

What is Fibromylagia?
http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article155.html

More later...

Soft hugs & Prayers!

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse

"What lies behind us and what lies before us, are tiny matters,
compared to what lies within us"
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
From: DGSaba on
Women and Children of CFIDS + Men
WACOC + M


ps...

Thanks to Linda C for bringing these matters to our attention and
sharing the links to this informative information.

Lyme and Biowarfare
http://www.avonhistory.org/bug/l15.htm

CDC: Vaccine Study Used Flawed Methods
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/cdc-vaccine-study-used-fl_b_108462.html

Evidence of Harm
http://evidenceofharm.com/VaccineDataLinkReporttoCongressFinal.pdf

More later...

Soft hugs & Prayers!

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse

"What lies behind us and what lies before us, are tiny matters,
compared to what lies within us"
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
From: DGSaba on

Women and Children of CFIDS + Men
WACOC + M

~*A comment or two*~

Happy Summer! In the 90's and humid! The four o' clocks are budding
so the fragrant flowers will soon appear. All the herbs and veggies
are doing great -- the lantana's, clematis, climbing moonbeams and
lavender are all doing nicely!

Pushing Prescriptions - The Center for Public Integrity
http://www.publicintegrity.org/rx/report.aspx?aid=985

US Justice Dept. Investigation of Glaxo-Paxil Widens
http://ahrp.blogspot.com/

Type the name of any medication into the Alliance For Human Research
Protection's search engine --
this is what's available regarding Cymbalta
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?bl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fahrp.blogspot..com%2F&as_q=cymbalta&submit=Search

Medical Evidence Blog
http://medicalevidence.blogspot.com/

A message from DSNurse...

NEXT MEETINGS IMPORTANT

SEPT 15-16 DC RESEARCH ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON GULF WAR ILLNESS

SEPT 24-25 DC ADVISORY COMMITEE ON GULF WAR ILLNESS

WE NEED GULF WAR VETERANS AT BOTH OF THESE MEETINGS IN OVERWHELMING
NUMBERS!!! THE RAC GWI WILL BE RELEASING THEIR HUGE REPORT FOR 08 AND
IT IS IMPERATIVE WE SUPPORT AND BE THERE!

THE GULF WAR VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WLL HAVE THEIR SECOND MEETING
AND WILL HAVE THEIR PLANS TOGETHER ON HOW THEY WILL PROCEED IN THE
NEXT 18 MONTHS. AGAIN IT IS CRITICALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT GULF
WAR VETERANS ARE THERE AND PREPARED TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS!

PREPARE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS 2 PAGES
SUGGESTED INPUT

YOUR NAME, UNIT, MOS, WHERE IN THEATER, IF YOU SAW SOMETHING WHILE
THERE THAT IS PERTINENT TO HEALTH NOW

WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH AND WHAT BENEFITS YOU RECEIVE

THE CARE IE TESTING, DIAGNOSIS, CARE AT VA
HOSPITALS.....PROBLEMS...IDENTIFY THEM

THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE HAD IN BENEFITS CLAIMS AREA....IDENTIFY THE
PROBLEM

YOUR FRUSTRATIONS....PROBLEMS

YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE! WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE
DONE!

CONTACT ME RE IDEAS, NEEDS, PROBLEMS ETC DSNurse1(a)yahoo.com

HERE IS WHAT I DID FOR FIRST MEETING....

U.S Department of Veterans Affairs Advisory Committee on Gulf War
Veterans
Meeting of June 17-19, 2008, Washington, DC

Comments by Denise Nichols for National Vietnam and Gulf War Veterans
Coalition


Thank you for the opportunity to provide public comments for myself
and the National Vietnam and Gulf War Veterans Coalition. This is a
summary provided in advance of the meeting that I intend to make
during this first meeting of the newly created Advisory Committee on
Gulf War Veterans. There is so much to say that time will not allow at
this first meeting.

Function and Process of Committee: First concerning the actual
conducting of this advisory committee we have to encourage you to set
your schedule at least 6 months in advance so that we have the dates
and places of the meetings. We along with others will encourage you to
travel the country and not just stay in DC. We will encourage you to
have the VA truly put all efforts out to the Gulf War Veterans of
90-91 to notify them of the meetings using a full press relations in
all media but additionally that the veterans are notified in writing
or phone from their local VA hospitals especially if the committee is
to meet in a certain location. We simply must also have a website
devoted to this advisory committee that is robust and kept current and
active.

We also want to highly encourage you to have the VA open fully their
use of video teleconferencing abilities for these advisory committee
meetings. In that way gulf war veterans could go to their local VA’s
auditorium and sit with VA Personnel and be hooked in live and be able
to offer their public comments. But that doesn’t mean you do one and
not the others….it means you do all you can. We are due for VA
outreach that never came for us and let it start with this advisory
committee.

You need to hear directly from as many of the veterans as possible to
truly get the input of those hundreds of thousands. I am aware that
Walter Reed eventually had to have customer relations training from
Walt Disney enterprises. VA may need that effort too.

The cost of accommodation and travel is indeed high and something
needs to be done to assist our(veterans’/family members/support
personnel) ability to participate in these fact finding advisory
committees. These are ill gulf war veterans who face barriers
physically and financially unable to travel certainly at the cost of
travel today and the cost of lodging. Just as Congress initially did
not assist the veterans that came forward and eventually did start
covering that cost. At the least the VA and DOD could help by letting
the survivors and the veterans have access to any DOD/VA air
transport, travel funds and to rooms(commercial and or military or
unused veteran hospital space)(DOD could provide military shuttle/
buses if available). Private non profit organizations need to reach
out also to help us in this effort.

The advisory committee must recognize that this group of veterans has
considerable neuro cognitive and memory problems that impact the
ability to write testimony and to be able to function minimally at
home. This group needs assistance in coming to the meetings and needs
understanding when there is a requirement to provide written input
before we arrive.

I don’t think VA fully understands the Neuro cognitive difficulties
that the Gulf War veterans are encountering at all. I can tell you
that it makes me tear up when I see how my fellow veterans have
deteriorated in mental and social functioning because of the neuro
cognitive difficulties alone. I, myself, was an above average
professional nurse with a MSN who had been in critical care nursing
and on faculty at Nursing Schools with a number of large universities.
My decline in ability to function is scary and has cost me my lively
hood … my profession and impact my family by decreasing us to a one
income family. I try my best to hide it from family and associates but
I know the difference and people that know me know the difference. It
hurt when I came home from a trip to DC and was trying to help my
daughter when she was in elementary school and I realized I was having
problems with basic math! After I got her to bed I cried and I am not
one to cry easily. My life was destroyed and that impacts on so many
levels.

These problems affect the abilities to keep up with financial matters
to navigate around our home towns and to function in a normal life
much less to work our claims to get help!

I suggest that you consider this when you require written submissions
before meetings. I suggest you also take audio/video recordings of the
veterans.

I have had veteran’s wives call me to cry on my shoulder for support
when they tell me that their husband of decades were caught in the
wives’ purses and when asked why they said I couldn’t remember your
name so I was looking at your driver’s license! It is like something
has caused extreme early Althemziers. It is dismaying to me that VA
health professionals have not evaluated the neuro cognitive problems
or if they see it they don’t report it. If veterans tried driving
trucks for a living they had to quit that job because they would get
lost, their driving abilities at night were affected, and they had to
have a spouse accompany them to help orient them etc. There are so
many example cases and not enough time for all the details. That is
why a great deal of our gulf war veterans are not seen at meetings etc
they have bunkered down totally!

We hope and pray that this committee sets a full published time
schedule, meeting schedule to include place and time and the issues to
be discussed at each meeting so that recommendations for short,
medium, and long term can be made as the committee continues in its
time schedule and that corrective action can start and continue
monthly instead of waiting for any 18 months. We also hope that the
door is opened to make this advisory committee continue past that 18
months until all issues are addressed, corrective action is taken, and
reevaluated for further changes in the future. There needs to be no
end date to either advisory committee we must continue until all
issues are corrected and reevaluations made. Neither of these advisory
committees should be PAPER TIGERS but REAL ACTION TEAMS to Address the
needs that were and are unmet and that this is indeed a continuing
commitment that needs to be made for the veterans that paid the price
and earned the respect and all efforts that can be made each day of
the year and for all their remaining time.

I also want to recommend that this ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE AN
Additional EXPERTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE as the VA RAC GWI has in place.
This group might include but not be limited to: a couple of more
veteran leaders that have been active on gulf war illness issues, a
lawyer with claims knowledge, a physician at least 1 maybe two, and a
couple of medical care professionals(nurses), a former military
personnel administrative person, and veteran officers that served in
the Gulf War with the Army Preventive Med Team. These individuals
would be advisors to the main committee.

Overview: The scope of the problem is large with over 1/3 of those
that served in the 90-91 having sought VA care/compensation. This is
truly a huge number not seen prior to our time in history as
referenced by Ross Perot when he testified to Congress. When we came
home and started coming forward for help with our dramatically changed
health status we were all met with denial that something had truly
affected our health, we were called wimps, we were ignored and brushed
aside, and we had to deal with the doctors‘ eyes glaze over when you
say gulf war illness. In medical terminology-- we were TURFED OUT to
Psych just to get us away. That was certainly not the way to treat
patients but more devastating is that this is still occurring after 17
years.

We encourage the VA thru this committee’s actions to finally take the
Proactive Stance that has been missing to stand up for the Veterans
and honor them. Sadly we have already lost to many lives in 17 years
and it is time for the truth to be given and the veterans of the gulf
war to be truly honored.

This group of veterans was indeed differently they asked for
DIAGNOSIS, TREATMENT(the Best), AND FAIR COMPENSATION. We have asked
doctors and researchers to find the best diagnostic abilities to be
found and to find forward leading treatments for us. We earned this.

We also are aware by standing firm we indeed are still serving our
nation. What we encountered in the gulf war of 90-91 was hazardous
exposures that could occur to the civilians here or elsewhere, it
behooves us to strength the push forward not just for us but for
National Security.

To be honored fully it is imperative that the Secretary of the VA and
the Administration (presidents current and past) acknowledged us and
start with an apology to each of the hundreds of thousands of veterans
that have endured and to the families that have lost their gulf war
veteran.

It must be acknowledged that these advisory committees that the VA has
was the result of the effort of the veterans themselves in desperation
to get corrective action initiated. In this case 17 years too late. AS
we all know the proof is in the process that is started here today and
the actions that follow.

RESEARCH: In the area of Research we want to offer our full support
for the VA RAC GWI the committee members are to be complimented in the
work they have done and the work yet to be done. The VA needs to
support them by using the live video conferencing abilities that it
has available so that researchers and doctors and the gulf war veteran
patients and their families can learn and share together breaking
developments in research findings.

WE ask that you also speak up to help this happen. We ask that the VA
fully support the RAC that has been doing historic work with truly
some of the best scientific minds in an effort to unravel the
complexities of the Gulf War illnesses. We ask that the research
efforts be strengthen through this committee’s endorsement, the VA,
the DOD, administration, and congress to support the funding requested
not just from VA but DOD’s 2/3 commitment that was removed in 2001.

Education and Outreach: It is critically important that we find an
effective means of education for the veterans, their families but most
of all for the medical personnel and the claims personnel .

The VA Newsletter and the DOD deployment quarterly were mostly filled
with propaganda and did not provide the total breathe of information
that was available. Then the VA dropped the publication all together.
The conferences the VA/DOD were having were also dropped. The
guidelines for medical professionals/Drs is so out of date it isn’t
even funny and does not come close to addressing items from research
or recent findings concerning care and treatment of fibromyalgia and
chronic fatigue.

It is reprehensible that the veterans and various service groups had
to develop their own information systems in order to try to help the
veterans. These were sick and ill gulf war veterans trying to help
each other!

Education of the medical staffs was nonexistent. The truth and medical
findings were being brought to those staff by the veterans themselves!
The staffs were not prepared and were restrained from thinking by the
denial of the DOD and the VA policy administrators and even the White
House Policy Formation, there is just no way to explain the situation
any other way! To say that the gulf war veterans were dismayed and
disheartened and angry is a understatement!

When you go in because your health has changed and you seek answers
and all they wanted to do was at all cost not get into it….to send you
away….to turf you out to the psych because that is what they were
encouraged to do. They were not encourage to watch us closely and care
for us. It all started with the DOD denying everything and the VA
following the lead. I felt sorry for the doctors. They were not given
the training or the latitude to address our concerns. The medical care
professionals were betrayed by the system too.

An example of this is when I was involved as a coauthor of a peer
reviewed medical publication. The Hypercoagulation in gulf war
veterans was documented in 2000! When I brought the paper in and my
own lab results to my VA in Denver I asked please read this call the
physicians and the other authors of the paper and I gave them the
phone numbers.
I asked for more diagnostic tests for myself and others. I asked for
treatment as proposed by the Doctors that wrote the journal paper.

I begged that they help me and my fellow veterans because as a nurse
with the experience I had I knew what hyper coagulation could do to a
person’s organs and that it could lead to death! The Doctor refused, I
asked again the next visit thinking she needed time to follow up
etc….well again I was refused and to make matters worse this doctor a
hematologist even offered me a psych consult!

I then found out the lab director at that VA hospital had been an
editor of the peer review medical journal that published the study. At
that point is when I gave up on trying to get my own care at the VA, I
would not subject myself to a system that was not responding to any
degree of responsibility. My blood pressure, my whole being could not
take that. I decided I only had so much fight to give and that I would
continue to put my efforts at the national and international level and
use all the tools and resources available to battle the broken system
from the head of the multiheaded snake.

It is important to note that the FIBROMYALGIA AND FATIGUE CENTERS OF
AMERICA in 12 locations in this country are testing for hyper
coagulation and treating it!
Why can’t the VA access the education and share medical care, testing
and treatment that is available to civilians?

I know a group of environmental doctors that offered to help in 1991
to the VA Secretary at the time and were turned down! Finally after 17
years one group of these doctors have been granted a research study
funding and the small treatment trial will be initiated soon.

There is a former Army physician that is board certified in Anti Aging
that is rescuing gulf war veterans that can pay, he is also willing to
do whatever he can to help VA but no takers yet.

The break appears to be at the policy level and starts with records
still classified and missing records of vaccinations. The exposures we
had starting with the vaccines, to chemical and pesticide, DU, oil
fire particulates, sand contamination, biological and endemic disease
data have been denied and hidden by classification.

The administration must move now to declassify fully the records of
what occurred in our war after all it has been 17 years and Saddam has
now been removed at a huge cost to this nation. It seems an
appropriate time to get that done NOW!

That information disclosure would acknowledge what Price the Gulf War
veterans of Operation Desert Storm have paid. This may also be
affecting our current OIF veterans and forces. That disclosure could
help physicians, researchers, claims personnel to experience the
change of attitude needed and to get the knowledge needed to meet the
needs we have had and will have in the future. It would also help the
doctors know what to treat for and open their abilities to fully
evaluate each of us.

We need the doctors and medical care providers to document better in
the clinical records what works and doesn’t work and by setting up
some basic data collection tools be able to contribute to research
efforts and even be a part of that research by highlighting unusual
lab findings, diagnostic test results, treatments to consider,
documenting possible complications, documenting real complications,
and documenting what led to gulf war veterans deaths. This information
from the clinical world must be shared with the GWRAC. It would
provide invaluable information.

Learn from the errors, make swift corrective actions, plan and think
smarter in the future is what we ask.

DECLASSIFICATION IS ESSENTIAL AND SHOULD BE TOTAL to help the
surviving Gulf War Veterans! Declassification would allow the doctors
to really diagnose and treat us more knowledgeably.

Many of us feel that we have just been placed in the EXPECTANT
CATEGORY since we returned home. BUT WE ARE NOT ALL DEAD AND WE NEED
YOUR HELP!

Outreach: Education for the veterans and their families is critical!
This can only be effectively done if we get all the truth! There are
all levels of disability minimal to extreme(critical). The need is
massive!

We didn’t have a hotline for gulf war veterans so we gulf war veterans
did our own! I took so many calls on suicide attempts. Try doing that
with no resources! Try activating emergency response in different
states without VA or DOD assistance!

One case we utilized the officer of the day at a military base close
to one veteran. The officer on duty was a chaplain. He made the call
and sent an ambulance, the veteran was stabilized at the base ER, and
then transferred to the closest VA. Later in follow up calls we found
out the Chaplain officer had been reprimanded for assisting. WE have
activated ambulances to transport attempted suicides to the VA and
then find out later the veteran was charged for this financially.

WE have been called upon the deaths of gulf war veterans by the family
offering the body for donation for research so that answers for those
alive might be benefited but no system was in place especially on
weekends! This is when we started asking researchers to give us a
protocol so coroners could help but we had no facility to store
samples and who was to pay for the expenses incurred. That is why we
pushed for the brain bank but we need other banking of other samples
too. This information on protocol and the brain bank must become
common knowledge to every VA Doctor, nurse, patient, and family
member.

We found that coroners that got involved and made statements that it
was gulf war related faced retaliation and lost jobs. Just as VA
physicians and researchers that had stepped up to the plate faced
retaliation also. Outreach to these professionals need to be made and
restitution efforts made. You destroyed careers of people that tried
to do the right moral and ethical duty for us gulf war veterans.

Was this a cover-up well the facts of retaliation seem to be the truth
that answers that question.

You have not reached out to the Operation Desert Storm Veterans and
their welcome home was not what we expected when we got to the VA.
When we presented with our change in health we were basically told
nothing is wrong with you. I am not sure how to describe the feelings,
frustration, and anger.

I want to say because my time is limited that it is time that these
advisory committee meetings are video-teleconferenced into each VA
live with veterans able to be there with the staff members in the VA
Auditorium by their home and to be able to comment on the
videoconference. But that doesn’t mean you don’t go out to them….it
means you do both. We are due for VA outreach that never came for us.
And it also speaks to the Education that is needed throughout by all
parties.

MORTALITY: WE need the ones of us that have died since 1990-91 to be
acknowledged by a true accounting not by numbers but by a true death
registry by name, age unit, location in theater and cause of death.
This needs to be an openly accessible to all database provided by the
VA with a mechanism to also capture those veterans of the gulf war
that never went to a VA or had a VA claim file number to put on death
certificate. These were individuals that died and should be honored!

Their deaths and mortality data need to be examined in depth. Did
their neurocognitive disorders lead to auto and other types of
accidents? Interviewing the family members of the veterans is
essential not only after a death but during his care at the VA.

The families of those that died outside the VA system must have a way
to enter the data to the VA with appropriate paperwork and have
assistance to do this.

Nationally death certificates need to identify a veteran by conflict
or era served in whether they had a VA file number or not. So a
national law needs to be done!

We thank www.Honor the Names.com for doing something that the VA
should be doing fully! They at least are trying to capture all
obituary data and place it online.

We need to hear from their survivors first and be sure they have been
adequately cared for and recognized. We hope that this committee will
honor them by devoting the next meeting to that task and the VA needs
to consider how to immediately help these survivors and veterans as
this advisory committee is in process not after a report is filed.

Through this complete review of MORTALITY more can be learned in
research and in care for those that still live! It is critically
important that this be done because it will help the doctors, health
care providers, veterans know what trends to be alert to in order that
more effective screening can be done for the veterans ie Cancers….
This should be the proactive approach in regards to both Mortality and
Morbidity data!

Morbidity:
REGISTRIES /Data Base for All illnesses that gulf war veterans are
experiencing should be ongoing and open on the internet and available
to all.

We ask that registries be established for the undiagnosed category,
for the diagnosed neurological conditions, for the cancers(all), and
all the other diagnosed conditions(every body system). This
information needs to be given ASAP by the VA and the process needs to
be transparent and open to the public. It is through this method that
advances in our diagnosis, care, claims and research efforts to help
us can be accomplished fully.

It is a proactive step that the VA can take and does not compromise
identity it is statistical data.

Through this information and statistics data base medical care
providers can actively monitor the veterans with this additional
information to keep reconsidering and updating their physical and
diagnostic assessment of each veteran they are assigned to give care.

The patients and family members also can be aware of what warning
signs to watch for in regards to the statistics. That is what patient
education is all about and this is a starting point for health care
providers, patients, and family members. This should not be held from
us like a top state secret this is our very lives that we are living
and we need the statistics to guide us and the health care
professionals.

Note these registries must include the deployed and the non deployed
gulf war era veterans. We have non deployed sick either from vaccines
or secondary contamination from returning equipment that was not
decontaminated.

Health Care:
To get true health care the facts and truth need to be fully known.
Retraining will need to be done in a systematical and thorough manner.
I encourage that gulf war professionals that served and know the truth
at every level be activated in assisting in this endeavor.

Policy will have to be rewritten from the Administration to the VA to
all levels of government and be transmitted publicly so that the
greatest number are informed. That is the true starting point!

I have had doctors in tears before when they were refusing to do more.
I have had doctors that finally get it and watched their reactions and
yes their horror at what has occurred. I have had doctors tell me
their hands are tied! This is a broken system and needs so many
efforts to put it on the right course but it can be done by full
knowledge, support in all forms, and true leadership.

I have had doctors tell me thank you for providing information because
you provided it I was able to save the gulf war veteran that showed up
in the ER last night. This is criminal and unlawful withholding of
information that leads to unlawful omission of care!

It is a shame we ill gulf war veterans have had to do this one doctor
at a time….and lives have been lost because of it.

I don’t know how but I still have a small bit of hope like a flicker
of a fire about to die waiting for the fuel to come to brighten and
warm the fire for all of us gulf war veterans.

Care starts with restarting the VA centers that were gulf war veterans
referral centers in 1991-5.

We also need to have full Gulf War Veteran Health Care and Integrative
Research to Medical Care Centers located with VA hospitals in
cooperation with Major Medical Universities that can be operated
jointly to transfer medical findings rapidly into medical care for
gulf war veterans.

There are at least 129 medical schools and 155+ VA hospitals that need
to be considered. We need them in nine locations throughout the
country to start. There are 2 risks centers in the upper east coast
currently(not counted in total).

WE need one in (Duke Univ.) North Caroline, one in the south east
(GA), one at Ohio(Wright State), one in Illinois, one in Colorado, one
in Idaho, one in Washington, two in California(LA-San Diego) and (San
Francisco) as a starting point. My suggestion is in an attempt to have
at least one in North-South and East and West geographical locations
that are easily assessable for veterans that will speed the changes in
medical care brought on by breaking medical research.

These are need to be linked into a video teleconference network with
all other VA hospitals to speed communications and help spread
knowledge in changes in care through research.


Their should be one doctor and a team of health care individuals
overseeing the overall care of gulf war veterans at each VA hospital.
They need to review to see what trends they are seeing and share
findings on gulf war veterans at least every two months. They need to
consider what health alerts they need to give out to gulf war
veterans. For example we find many veterans that get stabilized and
then get further exposures to paints, pesticide spraying etc then get
much sicker. The health care providers should be forward thinking and
send out alerts….things to avoid, things to report to their health
care provider, actions that can help once the additional exposure has
occurred, and other helpful actions. This certainly has not been
happening or even considered for 17 years!

There should be a task force at each VA hospital that includes the
gulf war veterans to identify problems, make corrections, and share
their insight all the way to the VA headquarters, to this committee
and to the VA GWI RAC.

The VA needs to address the need to compile data on vision problems
the gulf war veterans are having. It would be normal to expect this
to occur with MS, ALS and other neurological problems. And good eye
exams can help many times to diagnose other health problems. I
suggest that the VA at least allow gulf war veterans to be evaluated
by the opthalmologist so base line data can at least be collected ,
shared, compiled, and reviewed for needs that have not been addressed
by VA.

The VA also needs to consider doing the same re for dental assessment
needs on gulf war veterans. In the area of eye and dental unless you
are 100% you don’t get in and that is wrong we need assessment exams
done. The chemical damage could be altering our dental problems
( that gulf war veterans are complaining) and no dentist at VA knows
because you haven’t even assessed.
The VA doctors at each VA needs to review their records for the Desert
Storm Veterans at their VA and report now and at regular intervals the
diagnosed conditions that are occurring and the cause of death of each
of the gulf war veterans at their VA hospital. A quarterly mortality
and morbidity report on Desert Storm Veterans. These reports need to
be compiled at each region and forwarded to VA headquarters, to this
committee and to the VA RAC GWI. In this way trends ie Cancers, heart
attacks, renal or liver problems etc can be reported as trends to be
aware of in Desert Storm Veterans. Through this education, policy
changes, health care alerts, and proactive health care screenings can
be initiated. This would be an excellent way to start the Operation
Desert Storm Task force at each VA and regional VISNS. Of course the
information would be shared at those Task Forces and also at in-house
medical staff meetings.

This information would also be critical to be shared at each VISNS-
regional- claims department for their updates.

Claims.

There is on the committee very knowledgeable VSO claims benefit
personnel but yet no lawyer(civilian) that could help with expertise
to examine the problems and make valid suggestions.

There is a problem when delays and denials pile up! An example is a
very gulf war era veteran that I heard from before I left to come to
this meeting. She is very ill. She herself is a paralegal who is very
versed in claims and legal processes. She has a great deal of medical
knowledge. She has just received her fourth denial and will be
homeless soon unless something happens to rescue her.

She is just one example. Every day each of us receive at least one
email or phone call for assistance, information, guidance or other
referral information so the need is not being met even after 17 years.

Something must be done when a veteran identifies that they are nearing
the point of homelessness due to health and claims denial and a
process to help those veterans as a high priority has to be initiated!

Remember these veterans have neurocognitive decline in abilities and
are physically ill they need direct legal assistance now or we will
have more physically ill veterans on the streets. More family
disruption and break ups due to this denial and delay will occur. More
Suicides will occur.

The burden of paperwork on the sick veteran and the family must be
removed. Temporary approvals or financial supplements that cut through
the lines and the burden must be implemented now not in months or
years. Active Triaging of the cases must be done with supplemental
medical personnel or personnel administrative prior service people
would be a beneficial step. It may mean reviewing the records and
making phone call assessments but something has to be done!

The ability to access care at the VA has to be given until their
claims are settled.

Conclusion:

As a 20 yr retired AF veteran of the gulf war and having served as a
nurse officer I feel betrayed. I feel that since the war my job and my
duty to my fellow veteran patients have never ended! I am ill also but
someone of the medical profession and as an officer had to stay
involved and fight with all my knowledge and skills and more for our
gulf war veteran patients. It s a 17yr war so far, I ask how much
longer? The answer is until there is real medical care with the right
diagnostics and care using all research that is coming forward.

I have been there as the nurse who was there for them then but it has
been 17 years and so many calls at different hours of the day and
night. I pray that not only you but every level from the President to
the VA to every federal agency, every member and staff of the capitol,
and the public hears our desperate call for action. We feel
justifiably that we have been deemed the silent expectants of
Operation Desert Shield Storm.

I don’t know how but I still have a small bit of hope like a flicker
of a fire about to die waiting for the fuel to come to brighten and
warm the fire for all of us gulf war veterans.

~ ~ ~

More later...

Soft hugs & Prayers!

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse

"What lies behind us and what lies before us, are tiny matters,
compared to what lies within us"
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~