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From: Matthew Venhaus on 16 Dec 2005 10:53
I have not been feeling satiated over the last several days. At this
point I am only hoping to maintain a healthy weight; I am not looking
to lose any additional weight but am not at an unusually low bodyfat
level (about 15%). I have tried all of the "tricks" I know, including
high volume, low calorie food, high fiber, high fat, high protein, and
drinking more water but nothing really works. Any other tricks?

--
Matthew
Slow and steady wins the race.

From: Matthew Venhaus on 16 Dec 2005 11:45

Ignoramus20852 <ignoramus20852(a)NOSPAM.20852.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:53:27 -0700, Matthew Venhaus
<matthewvenhaus(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I have not been feeling satiated over the last several days. At
this
> > point I am only hoping to maintain a healthy weight; I am not
looking
> > to lose any additional weight but am not at an unusually low
bodyfat
> > level (about 15%). I have tried all of the "tricks" I know,
including
> > high volume, low calorie food, high fiber, high fat, high protein,
and
> > drinking more water but nothing really works. Any other tricks?
>
> Not knowing how you exercise, I would suggest to try walking, it
helps
> to bring my appetite in line. Do you know whether you would gain if
> you let yourself eat as much as you want?
>
Walking, cycling, and strength training are my main forms of exercise.
I have been walking more, cycling not at all, and lifting weights less
for the last 3 weeks in order to improve walking endurance.

I am fairly sure I would regain the 15lbs I've lost if I eat ad-lib
but as this would only put me at the high end of "normal" weight it
may be a possibility.
--
Matthew
Slow and steady wins the race.

From: Chris Braun on 16 Dec 2005 13:18
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:53:27 -0700, "Matthew Venhaus"
<matthewvenhaus(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have not been feeling satiated over the last several days. At this
>point I am only hoping to maintain a healthy weight; I am not looking
>to lose any additional weight but am not at an unusually low bodyfat
>level (about 15%). I have tried all of the "tricks" I know, including
>high volume, low calorie food, high fiber, high fat, high protein, and
>drinking more water but nothing really works. Any other tricks?

How about a generous refeed day? Maybe one day of eating all you want
would reverse this trend. And it probably wouldn't have any effect on
your weight -- or not enough to notice, anyway.

Has it turned suddenly colder where you live? Sometimes that makes me
feel like I need more food.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
From: Matthew Venhaus on 16 Dec 2005 16:06

Chris Braun <braun_chris(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:53:27 -0700, "Matthew Venhaus"
> <matthewvenhaus(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have not been feeling satiated over the last several days. At
this
> >point I am only hoping to maintain a healthy weight; I am not
looking
> >to lose any additional weight but am not at an unusually low
bodyfat
> >level (about 15%). I have tried all of the "tricks" I know,
including
> >high volume, low calorie food, high fiber, high fat, high protein,
and
> >drinking more water but nothing really works. Any other tricks?
>
> How about a generous refeed day? Maybe one day of eating all you
want
> would reverse this trend. And it probably wouldn't have any effect
on
> your weight -- or not enough to notice, anyway.
>
Too many trigger foods in the office right now, but I will certainly
try this tomorrow.

> Has it turned suddenly colder where you live? Sometimes that makes
me
> feel like I need more food.
>
It's actually warmed up a bit.
--
Matthew
Slow and steady wins the race.

From: Wanwo on 16 Dec 2005 16:19
Ideas that have worked for me:

1. I ALWAYS have a can of diet soda in the fridge. Satisfies the sweet
tooth, fills up the tummy and with almost no calories it's a great
substitute to almost any other food I could grab.

2. Coffee (or tea if you prefer) is another good substitute. Its drug effect
gives you a lift which helps give you some satisfaction and takes your mind
off hunger.

3. Avoid activities you associate strongly with food. For me that's TV. I
get hungry a lot in front of the TV, but really it's not hunger, just that
in my mind TV and food go together. On the other hand I rarely if ever eat
when on the computer.

4. Also, distinguish between not being satietied and having cravings for
certain foods that are not part of your regular diet. I can eat a mountain
of vegetables and still not feel satietied because it's not what my body (or
brain) is desiring. I got this concept from a body building book I have.
Body builders have to be very strict with their diet. Sugary carbs, alcohol
and junk food are definately out. But on such a restricted diet, cravings
for these foods can develop. So the way around this was one meal a week you
give into these cravings with a free meal. Any food, any quantity. What
happens is you inevitably overdo it and all your cravings vanish. Next day
you're happy to be back to healthy eating again. I like this idea. It's sort
of a reward for a week of healthy eating. Plus during the week if you
develop the desire for a hamburger or krispy kreme donut, just put it on the
list for your free meal. Knowing that you'll get it gives you the stamina to
hold out for it.


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