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From: Rob K on 8 Mar 2007 00:03 "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:5221tvF1mf40rU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Mazyoonah wrote: >> >> Dear Omaima, >> >> Obesity can be caused by a number of factors such as: Genetic factors if >> parents are obese their children are more likely to be obese too. Lack of >> exercising, over eating and drinking, endocrine disorder and hypothalamus >> dysfunction and also smoking. >> > > all of wich are true > > but they are excuses > > the human body is an engine > if it gets too much fuel it stores it for future use > > what ever disorder you have the only remedy is to eat less calories / > joules > > Hugh W > > -- > > a wonderful artist in Denmark > http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ > > Beta blogger > http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks > > old blogger GENEALOGE > http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG Hugh, I do not mean to be disrespectful or come off nasty, but your view is just not correct. I am one of those wonderful persons on a class of drug that promoted massive weight gain. My weight went up faster than I could have eaten at one point. I was never told about the weight gain. (this drug also seem to promote diabetes as well). So there are other causes to great weight gain than simply stuffing ones face. Sometimes that's just a simple answer. And as we have come to see as science moves on, life just is not that simple. Rob
From: Hugh Watkins on 8 Mar 2007 14:55 Rob K wrote: > > "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:5221tvF1mf40rU1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> Mazyoonah wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Omaima, >>> >>> Obesity can be caused by a number of factors such as: Genetic factors >>> if parents are obese their children are more likely to be obese too. >>> Lack of exercising, over eating and drinking, endocrine disorder and >>> hypothalamus dysfunction and also smoking. >>> >> >> all of wich are true >> >> but they are excuses >> >> the human body is an engine >> if it gets too much fuel it stores it for future use >> >> what ever disorder you have the only remedy is to eat less calories / >> joules >> >> Hugh W >> >> -- >> >> a wonderful artist in Denmark >> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >> >> Beta blogger >> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >> >> old blogger GENEALOGE >> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG > > > > Hugh, > > I do not mean to be disrespectful or come off nasty, but your view is > just not correct. > > I am one of those wonderful persons on a class of drug that promoted > massive weight gain. My weight went up faster than I could have eaten at > one point. I was never told about the weight gain. (this drug also seem > to promote diabetes as well). > So there are other causes to great weight gain than simply stuffing ones > face. Sometimes that's just a simple answer. And as we have come to see > as science moves on, life just is not that simple. it is a hard life Rob was your weight gain all water? I hope you found an alternative drug if the natural weight and appetite control mechanism is broken again it is up to each of us to manage our own destiny as best we can name the drug please Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
From: Rob K on 9 Mar 2007 00:21 "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:55b829F24ono5U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Rob K wrote: >> >> "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:5221tvF1mf40rU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> Mazyoonah wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Dear Omaima, >>>> >>>> Obesity can be caused by a number of factors such as: Genetic factors >>>> if parents are obese their children are more likely to be obese too. >>>> Lack of exercising, over eating and drinking, endocrine disorder and >>>> hypothalamus dysfunction and also smoking. >>>> >>> >>> all of wich are true >>> >>> but they are excuses >>> >>> the human body is an engine >>> if it gets too much fuel it stores it for future use >>> >>> what ever disorder you have the only remedy is to eat less calories / >>> joules >>> >>> Hugh W >>> >>> -- >>> >>> a wonderful artist in Denmark >>> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >>> >>> Beta blogger >>> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >>> >>> old blogger GENEALOGE >>> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG >> >> >> >> Hugh, >> >> I do not mean to be disrespectful or come off nasty, but your view is >> just not correct. >> >> I am one of those wonderful persons on a class of drug that promoted >> massive weight gain. My weight went up faster than I could have eaten at >> one point. I was never told about the weight gain. (this drug also seem >> to promote diabetes as well). >> So there are other causes to great weight gain than simply stuffing ones >> face. Sometimes that's just a simple answer. And as we have come to see >> as science moves on, life just is not that simple. > > it is a hard life Rob > > was your weight gain all water? > > I hope you found an alternative drug > > if the natural weight and appetite control mechanism is broken > again it is up to each of us to manage our own destiny as best we can > > name the drug please > LOL! Like I am going to give my personal medical history on the internet! And its not one drug, but several. And I know more then enough about them. I in no way need your imput, thanks anyway. My Doctor, Phamacist, and my research will suffice, thank you. You seem to have some kind of axe to grind against people with a weight problem.I hope you can find a good therapist and fix that. Life is way to short to be ill willed toward a group of people. Oh, and by the way, I never how the drugs caused the weight gain, only that they have, and do. And I am sure that you do not know either. Case closed. Have a good day, Rob > Hugh W > > > -- > > a wonderful artist in Denmark > http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ > > Beta blogger > http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks > > old blogger GENEALOGE > http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
From: Hugh Watkins on 9 Mar 2007 05:58 I am 168 kg - morbidly obese 370 lbs land double my "normal" weight for 6 foot 183 cm and have just put on more than 15 kg over the winter becasue I ate more food than I needed / drank alcohol and input more energy than I used for the amount of exercise I did I have sleep apnea and use a CPAP machine my own medication is on the net in one of my blogs I have arthitis in my left knee which resricts the amount of exercise I can do - we fatties have to diet and burn calories to keep our metabolism running high and to get and maintain a weight loss I went shoppping for clothes yesterday and got lucky in the last of the sales I was a 6XL for underpants which pleased me because 5 years ago I was 7 XL I can take pain killers for my knee (which have side effects too) or not exercise to keep the pain down I am more breathless than usual because I am carrying the extra weight I ws last down to a good weight about 18 years ago it took 2 yeasr of diet and daily exercise - swimming staretd at 3 lenghs and got up to 70 lenghs daily by the end to get do wn to 105 kg 231 lbs from 184 kg 405 lbs I also did training with weights - not body building but many repititions with lighter weights - sort of thing kick boxers and other sportsmen do I am now 71 years of age and no longer drive a taxi all night 12 to 14 hours siting down - destressing with a 6pack before going to bed in the morning a very unhealthy life style Have you cut out the cola and all drinks with added - or any - sugar yet? stop the pity me nonsense - join Weight Watchers to learn how to cook sensible food we are the lucky ones with too much food when children die daily of starvation world wide - if you are in a wheel chair then you have to do upper body exercises now I am going to have a bath then breekfast an dgo walking / shopping Hugh W Rob K wrote: > > "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:55b829F24ono5U1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> Rob K wrote: >> >>> >>> "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:5221tvF1mf40rU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> Mazyoonah wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Omaima, >>>>> >>>>> Obesity can be caused by a number of factors such as: Genetic >>>>> factors if parents are obese their children are more likely to be >>>>> obese too. Lack of exercising, over eating and drinking, endocrine >>>>> disorder and hypothalamus dysfunction and also smoking. >>>>> >>>> >>>> all of wich are true >>>> >>>> but they are excuses >>>> >>>> the human body is an engine >>>> if it gets too much fuel it stores it for future use >>>> >>>> what ever disorder you have the only remedy is to eat less calories >>>> / joules >>>> >>>> Hugh W >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> a wonderful artist in Denmark >>>> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >>>> >>>> Beta blogger >>>> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >>>> >>>> old blogger GENEALOGE >>>> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hugh, >>> >>> I do not mean to be disrespectful or come off nasty, but your view is >>> just not correct. >>> >>> I am one of those wonderful persons on a class of drug that promoted >>> massive weight gain. My weight went up faster than I could have eaten >>> at one point. I was never told about the weight gain. (this drug also >>> seem to promote diabetes as well). >>> So there are other causes to great weight gain than simply stuffing >>> ones face. Sometimes that's just a simple answer. And as we have come >>> to see as science moves on, life just is not that simple. >> >> >> it is a hard life Rob >> >> was your weight gain all water? >> >> I hope you found an alternative drug >> >> if the natural weight and appetite control mechanism is broken >> again it is up to each of us to manage our own destiny as best we can >> >> name the drug please >> > LOL! Like I am going to give my personal medical history on the > internet! And its not one drug, but several. And I know more then enough > about them. I in no way need your imput, thanks anyway. My Doctor, > Phamacist, and my research will suffice, thank you. > > You seem to have some kind of axe to grind against people with a weight > problem.I hope you can find a good therapist and fix that. Life is way > to short to be ill willed toward a group of people. > > Oh, and by the way, I never how the drugs caused the weight gain, only > that they have, and do. And I am sure that you do not know either. > > Case closed. > > Have a good day, > Rob > > >> Hugh W >> >> >> -- >> >> a wonderful artist in Denmark >> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >> >> Beta blogger >> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >> >> old blogger GENEALOGE >> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG > > -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
From: Rob K on 10 Mar 2007 21:29
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:55csu7F2376l1U1(a)mid.individual.net... >I am 168 kg - morbidly obese 370 lbs land double my "normal" weight for 6 >foot 183 cm > > and have just put on more than 15 kg over the winter becasue I ate more > food than I needed / drank alcohol > > and input more energy than I used for the amount of exercise I did > > I have sleep apnea and use a CPAP machine > my own medication is on the net in one of my blogs > > I have arthitis in my left knee which resricts the amount of exercise I > can do - we fatties have to diet and burn calories to keep our metabolism > running high and to get and maintain a weight loss > > I went shoppping for clothes yesterday and got lucky in the last of the > sales > > I was a 6XL for underpants > which pleased me because 5 years ago I was 7 XL > > I can take pain killers for my knee (which have side effects too) > or not exercise to keep the pain down > > I am more breathless than usual because I am > carrying the extra weight > I ws last down to a good weight about 18 years ago it took 2 yeasr of diet > and daily exercise - swimming staretd at 3 lenghs and got up to 70 lenghs > daily by the end to get do wn to 105 kg 231 lbs from 184 kg 405 lbs > > I also did training with weights - not body building but many repititions > with lighter weights - sort of thing kick boxers and other sportsmen do > > I am now 71 years of age and no longer drive a taxi all night > 12 to 14 hours siting down - destressing with a 6pack before going to bed > in the morning > a very unhealthy life style > > Have you cut out the cola and all drinks with added - or any - sugar > yet? > > stop the pity me nonsense - join Weight Watchers to learn how to cook > sensible food > > we are the lucky ones with too much food when children die daily of > starvation world wide - if you are in a wheel chair then you have to do > upper body exercises > > now I am going to have a bath then breekfast an dgo walking / shopping > > > Hugh W > > > Rob K wrote: > >> >> "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:55b829F24ono5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> Rob K wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5221tvF1mf40rU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>>> Mazyoonah wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Omaima, >>>>>> >>>>>> Obesity can be caused by a number of factors such as: Genetic factors >>>>>> if parents are obese their children are more likely to be obese too. >>>>>> Lack of exercising, over eating and drinking, endocrine disorder and >>>>>> hypothalamus dysfunction and also smoking. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> all of wich are true >>>>> >>>>> but they are excuses >>>>> >>>>> the human body is an engine >>>>> if it gets too much fuel it stores it for future use >>>>> >>>>> what ever disorder you have the only remedy is to eat less calories / >>>>> joules >>>>> >>>>> Hugh W >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> a wonderful artist in Denmark >>>>> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >>>>> >>>>> Beta blogger >>>>> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >>>>> >>>>> old blogger GENEALOGE >>>>> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hugh, >>>> >>>> I do not mean to be disrespectful or come off nasty, but your view is >>>> just not correct. >>>> >>>> I am one of those wonderful persons on a class of drug that promoted >>>> massive weight gain. My weight went up faster than I could have eaten >>>> at one point. I was never told about the weight gain. (this drug also >>>> seem to promote diabetes as well). >>>> So there are other causes to great weight gain than simply stuffing >>>> ones face. Sometimes that's just a simple answer. And as we have come >>>> to see as science moves on, life just is not that simple. >>> >>> >>> it is a hard life Rob >>> >>> was your weight gain all water? >>> >>> I hope you found an alternative drug >>> >>> if the natural weight and appetite control mechanism is broken >>> again it is up to each of us to manage our own destiny as best we can >>> >>> name the drug please >>> >> LOL! Like I am going to give my personal medical history on the internet! >> And its not one drug, but several. And I know more then enough about >> them. I in no way need your imput, thanks anyway. My Doctor, Phamacist, >> and my research will suffice, thank you. >> >> You seem to have some kind of axe to grind against people with a weight >> problem.I hope you can find a good therapist and fix that. Life is way to >> short to be ill willed toward a group of people. >> >> Oh, and by the way, I never how the drugs caused the weight gain, only >> that they have, and do. And I am sure that you do not know either. >> >> Case closed. >> >> Have a good day, >> Rob >> >> >>> Hugh W >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> a wonderful artist in Denmark >>> http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ >>> >>> Beta blogger >>> http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks >>> >>> old blogger GENEALOGE >>> http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG >> >> > > > -- > > a wonderful artist in Denmark > http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ > > Beta blogger > http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks > > old blogger GENEALOGE > http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG YAWN!!! Yeah, yeah, and your point is? I could post all my medical problems to, just as depressing, maybe more so. But what's the point? You are still not an authority. You seem to meanly be a bitter old man projecting you self hatred on other larger people. I have lived threw what I am talking about too. You might have gotten all your weight form eating, and drinking, but not all do,just as I said. I am not trying to cause any problems with you Hugh. But you need to realize that you are only one man with one point of view. Its outdated, and incorrect. My statement still stands. Peoples weight gain can be the result of other problems other then simply sticking food in your mouth, or what you drink. I am threw with this thread, and will not read, or respond to it anymore. Its unfruitful, and I think that I have said what I needed to say. I wish you well. Rob |