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From: Rod Speed on 24 Aug 2008 21:11 Robin King <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > "John A. Weeks III" <john(a)johnweeks.com> wrote in message > news:john-284A21.08292624082008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... >> In article <37r1b45ots8e3i8fm17q8sdnra0cnqgkgf(a)4ax.com>, Joe <> >> wrote: > >>> Simply charge them by weight. Can't be more fair than that. > > That doesn't solve the problem of accommodating people of > different sizes and shapes. > >> One needs to consider what is being purchased with a ticket. >> If they are selling transportation, then size or weight doesn't >> enter the equation. The only factor is getting a person of any >> size from point A to point B. Since that is how the industry >> works today, why not have a variety of seat sizes, some small, >> some average, some bigger, and accommodate people of all sizes. >> Can't be any more fair than that. > Sounds good to me. More fool you. Its completely impractical to implement and would inevitably result in more empty seats than currently and so higher prices for everyone. No thanks. > If they really want to be anal about it, they could sell seats in multiples > of six inches. Most people would take three or four of those. More > people would be willing to pay 33% extra for comfort than 100% extra. Pity its completely impractical to implement. > They could also have a few seats with extra legroom for a fee. They already have those seats. Completely impractical to book them separately for a higher fee.
From: John A. Weeks III on 25 Aug 2008 00:51 In article <3wnsk.13874$Mh5.10212(a)bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Robin King" <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6hdnd9Fl19v0U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > Dee Flint <deeflint01(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >> Robin King <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote > > > >>> What's the rate of regain? > > >> > > >> Zero. > > > > > That is incorrect. > > > > Nope, the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat > > too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. > > > > > People do regain sometimes if they don't correct their eating > habits. > > > > Wrong. the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat > > too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. > > > > > Some eventually learn to and adapt to eating > > > too much even with a reduced stomach capacity. > > > > Not even possible. > > > > The main problem with that approach is that the malnutrition can > kill you. > > About 70% if patients regain half the weight they lost with WLS. > Also, weight loss surgery is considered a success if the patient > keeps off 10% or more of her starting weight. Rather modest > expectations, don't you think? - and a far cry from zero. Another statistic to add is that 25% of WLS patients reported various kinds of mental impairments following the surgery. This including being foggy to having serious problems with memory and reasoning. Some reported that it cleared up over time, others reported the problem as being permanent. -john- -- ====================================================================== John A. Weeks III � � � � � 612-720-2854 � � � � � �john(a)johnweeks.com Newave Communications � � � � � � � � � � � � http://www.johnweeks.com ======================================================================
From: Rod Speed on 25 Aug 2008 01:54 John A. Weeks III <john(a)johnweeks.com> wrote: > In article <3wnsk.13874$Mh5.10212(a)bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, > "Robin King" <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:6hdnd9Fl19v0U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> Dee Flint <deeflint01(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> Robin King <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote >> >>>>>> What's the rate of regain? >>>>> >>>>> Zero. >>> >>>> That is incorrect. >>> >>> Nope, the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat >>> too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. >>> >>>> People do regain sometimes if they don't correct their eating >>>> habits. >>> >>> Wrong. the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat >>> too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. >>> >>>> Some eventually learn to and adapt to eating >>>> too much even with a reduced stomach capacity. >>> >>> Not even possible. >>> >>> The main problem with that approach is that the malnutrition can >>> kill you. >> >> About 70% if patients regain half the weight they lost with WLS. >> Also, weight loss surgery is considered a success if the patient >> keeps off 10% or more of her starting weight. Rather modest >> expectations, don't you think? - and a far cry from zero. > > Another statistic to add is that 25% of WLS patients reported > various kinds of mental impairments following the surgery. This > including being foggy to having serious problems with memory and > reasoning. Some reported that it cleared up over time, others > reported the problem as being permanent. That not a statistic produced by any operation that knows anything about rigorous science.
From: John A. Weeks III on 25 Aug 2008 08:36 In article <6hevp6Fkq6bnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > John A. Weeks III <john(a)johnweeks.com> wrote: > > In article <3wnsk.13874$Mh5.10212(a)bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, > > "Robin King" <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:6hdnd9Fl19v0U1(a)mid.individual.net... > >>> Dee Flint <deeflint01(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >>>>> Robin King <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote > >> > >>>>>> What's the rate of regain? > >>>>> > >>>>> Zero. > >>> > >>>> That is incorrect. > >>> > >>> Nope, the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat > >>> too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. > >>> > >>>> People do regain sometimes if they don't correct their eating > >>>> habits. > >>> > >>> Wrong. the whole point of that approach is that they cant eat > >>> too much because their stomach has been crippled so they cant. > >>> > >>>> Some eventually learn to and adapt to eating > >>>> too much even with a reduced stomach capacity. > >>> > >>> Not even possible. > >>> > >>> The main problem with that approach is that the malnutrition can > >>> kill you. > >> > >> About 70% if patients regain half the weight they lost with WLS. > >> Also, weight loss surgery is considered a success if the patient > >> keeps off 10% or more of her starting weight. Rather modest > >> expectations, don't you think? - and a far cry from zero. > > > > Another statistic to add is that 25% of WLS patients reported > > various kinds of mental impairments following the surgery. This > > including being foggy to having serious problems with memory and > > reasoning. Some reported that it cleared up over time, others > > reported the problem as being permanent. > > That not a statistic produced by any operation that knows anything about > rigorous science. It was produced by the CDC and published on the website of the MN state dept of Health. Both are highly respected organizations, and both have far more credibility than you do. Note that this was a survey, not a study. That is why the word "reported" is key. -john- -- ====================================================================== John A. Weeks III � � � � � 612-720-2854 � � � � � �john(a)johnweeks.com Newave Communications � � � � � � � � � � � � http://www.johnweeks.com ======================================================================
From: The Master on 25 Aug 2008 10:26
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, John A. Weeks III wrote: > Yeah, just look at what exercise did for Isaac Hays. Killed him > before he had a chance to turn off the treadmill. And maybe eat > some natural foods, like Herb-a-life founder Mark Hughes, who died > at age 44. Might want to start running, too, so you can be like > running guru Jim Fixx, who died at age 52 of a massive heart attack. Exercise kills! |