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From: Robin King on 23 Aug 2008 23:21 "Pramesh Rutaji" <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message news:g8qhod0mka(a)news3.newsguy.com... > Robin King wrote: > > > Instead, we can concentrate on things like physical fitness, > > eating well, and putting an end to size discrimination. > > Physical fitness and eating well is good. > > But, not every ride at Disneyland should be required to accommodate > obesity without limit. ?? - Never said they should. If they can accommodate, say, 98% of their visitors, that should be enough. I support airlines that charge grossly obese > people double fares I don't because very few fat people need an entire extra seat. Airlines will make seats as small as they can get away with. Years ago, seats were larger. Now the population is heavier and the seats have become smaller. What's wrong with this picture? - they don't have a right to occupy the space I've > paid for. If you didn't use part of your space, would you ask for a partial refund? I do sympathize with you, though. When there's so little space available, we become very protective of the tiny portion we do get. But it's not the fat person's fault, any more than it's the muscular person's fault, or the long-kegged person's fault. Airlines screw us all in one way or another. 'Bout time we united against that instead of bickering over a few square inches. > > Pramesh Rutaji Robin
From: Dee Flint on 24 Aug 2008 08:50 "John A. Weeks III" <john(a)johnweeks.com> wrote in message news:john-6F397A.17155722082008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > In article <g8mtk90152k(a)news5.newsguy.com>, > Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > >> Weight is an issue because the diet is probably full of modern processed >> foods and eating options introduced at and since the advent of >> agriculture along with chemical exposure from multiple sources including >> air quality. Lack of regular vigorous exercise (running and prey, etc.) >> and food constantly available (never any fasting) I think plays a large >> role in the disease and aging process. > > Yeah, just look at what exercise did for Isaac Hays. Killed him > before he had a chance to turn off the treadmill. And maybe eat > some natural foods, like Herb-a-life founder Mark Hughes, who died > at age 44. Might want to start running, too, so you can be like > running guru Jim Fixx, who died at age 52 of a massive heart attack. > If you read up on Jim Fixx, you will find that he lived many years longer than his father, grandfather, etc. It's entirely possible that the extra years he lived were due to his running. He might otherwise have died in his 30s. You cannot say that exercise killed Hays either. You don't know his general state of health or family history.
From: Dee Flint on 24 Aug 2008 08:52 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6h92kdFk2s9lU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Robin King <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote >> Caleb <calebb(a)teleport.com> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote > >>>> And have fun explaining how their weight problem goes away >>>> with the most aggressive weight control like lap banding etc. > >> Does it really? > > Yep. > >> Do they get healthier from the removal of a non-diseased organ? > > There is no removal of anything except stomach capacity. > >> What's the rate of regain? > > Zero. > That is incorrect. People do regain sometimes if they don't correct their eating habits. Some eventually learn to and adapt to eating too much even with a reduced stomach capacity.
From: Dee Flint on 24 Aug 2008 08:56 "Robin King" <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:Qs4sk.177805$102.65520(a)bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "Pramesh Rutaji" <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message > news:g8qhod0mka(a)news3.newsguy.com... >> Robin King wrote: >> >> > Instead, we can concentrate on things like physical > fitness, >> > eating well, and putting an end to size discrimination. >> >> Physical fitness and eating well is good. >> >> But, not every ride at Disneyland should be required to accommodate >> obesity without limit. > > ?? - Never said they should. If they can accommodate, say, 98% > of their visitors, that should be enough. > > I support airlines that charge grossly obese >> people double fares > > I don't because very few fat people need an entire extra seat. > Airlines will make seats as small as they can get away with. Years > ago, seats were larger. Now the population is heavier and the seats > have become smaller. What's wrong with this picture? > > - they don't have a right to occupy the space I've >> paid for. > > If you didn't use part of your space, would you ask for a > partial refund? > > I do sympathize with you, though. When there's so little > space available, we become very protective of the tiny portion we do > get. But it's not the fat person's fault, any more than it's the > muscular person's fault, or the long-kegged person's fault. Airlines > screw us all in one way or another. 'Bout time we united against that > instead of bickering over a few square inches. >> >> Pramesh Rutaji > > Robin Larger seats will mean fewer passengers per plane will mean higher fares for all. Are you ready for that? If you are, more power to you.
From: Dee Flint on 24 Aug 2008 08:57
<Joe> wrote in message news:37r1b45ots8e3i8fm17q8sdnra0cnqgkgf(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:21:20 GMT, "Robin King" > <mapletree(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >>"Pramesh Rutaji" <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message >>news:g8qhod0mka(a)news3.newsguy.com... >>> Robin King wrote: >>> >>> > Instead, we can concentrate on things like physical >>fitness, >>> > eating well, and putting an end to size discrimination. >>> >>> Physical fitness and eating well is good. >>> >>> But, not every ride at Disneyland should be required to accommodate >>> obesity without limit. >> >> ?? - Never said they should. If they can accommodate, say, 98% >>of their visitors, that should be enough. >> >>I support airlines that charge grossly obese >>> people double fares >> >> I don't because very few fat people need an entire extra seat. >>Airlines will make seats as small as they can get away with. Years >>ago, seats were larger. Now the population is heavier and the seats >>have become smaller. What's wrong with this picture? >> >> - they don't have a right to occupy the space I've >>> paid for. >> >> If you didn't use part of your space, would you ask for a >>partial refund? >> >> I do sympathize with you, though. When there's so little >>space available, we become very protective of the tiny portion we do >>get. But it's not the fat person's fault, any more than it's the >>muscular person's fault, or the long-kegged person's fault. Airlines >>screw us all in one way or another. 'Bout time we united against that >>instead of bickering over a few square inches. >>> >>> Pramesh Rutaji >> >>Robin >> > > Simply charge them by weight. Can't be more fair than that. > > Joe > That would indeed be fair as it takes so much fuel per pound of load. |