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From: Pramesh Rutaji on 23 Aug 2008 10:27 John A. Weeks III wrote: > Millions of people have spent millions of > accumulated years on diets, and the result is that nearly all end > up gaining weight within a year of the diet. Eating and living well is not a "diet", but a lifestyle. If you don't want to live a healthy lifestyle but are only willing to apply a temporary fix, then enjoy the consequences. If you cut calories and then add them back, the consequences are entirely your own. Your obesity is your own punishment. -- Pramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply
From: John A. Weeks III on 23 Aug 2008 12:34 In article <g8p6j201bvl(a)news3.newsguy.com>, Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > John A. Weeks III wrote: > > In article <g8mtk90152k(a)news5.newsguy.com>, > > Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > > > >> Weight is an issue because the diet is probably full of modern processed > >> foods and eating options introduced at and since the advent of > >> agriculture along with chemical exposure from multiple sources including > >> air quality. Lack of regular vigorous exercise (running and prey, etc.) > >> and food constantly available (never any fasting) I think plays a large > >> role in the disease and aging process. > > > > Yeah, just look at what exercise did for Isaac Hays. Killed him > > before he had a chance to turn off the treadmill. And maybe eat > > some natural foods, like Herb-a-life founder Mark Hughes, who died > > at age 44. Might want to start running, too, so you can be like > > running guru Jim Fixx, who died at age 52 of a massive heart attack. > > If one avoided everything that claims to kill someone, somehow, > somewhere, one might as well slit their wrist. If you think fitness is > worse than couchpotatoness, then have had it. > > > If there was a quick fix for the weight problem, the problem would > > go away quickly. All that we have proven so far is that diet does > > not help the problem. Millions of people have spent millions of > > accumulated years on diets, and the result is that nearly all end > > up gaining weight within a year of the diet. > > I didn't say there was a 'quick fix'. Reread while your downing your > processed carbs and watching TV reruns and claiming that lack of > exercise and poor nutrition have nothing to do with obesity and in fact > will kill you. Sure you did. You stated that size is due to bad food, and disease is caused by lack of exercise. Read it above--I quoted what you wrote. That sounds like about as quick of a fix as I have ever heard. My point is that if this was such a sure-fire solution, then why did the icons of those approaches come to a sudden and young death. Perhaps there are more factors that what you or the current state of modern medicine is aware of at this date. -john- -- ====================================================================== John A. Weeks III � � � � � 612-720-2854 � � � � � �john(a)johnweeks.com Newave Communications � � � � � � � � � � � � http://www.johnweeks.com ======================================================================
From: teachrmama on 23 Aug 2008 12:36 "Pramesh Rutaji" <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote in message news:g8p6j201bvl(a)news3.newsguy.com... > John A. Weeks III wrote: >> In article <g8mtk90152k(a)news5.newsguy.com>, >> Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >> >>> Weight is an issue because the diet is probably full of modern processed >>> foods and eating options introduced at and since the advent of >>> agriculture along with chemical exposure from multiple sources including >>> air quality. Lack of regular vigorous exercise (running and prey, etc.) >>> and food constantly available (never any fasting) I think plays a large >>> role in the disease and aging process. >> >> Yeah, just look at what exercise did for Isaac Hays. Killed him >> before he had a chance to turn off the treadmill. And maybe eat >> some natural foods, like Herb-a-life founder Mark Hughes, who died >> at age 44. Might want to start running, too, so you can be like >> running guru Jim Fixx, who died at age 52 of a massive heart attack. > > If one avoided everything that claims to kill someone, somehow, somewhere, > one might as well slit their wrist. If you think fitness is worse than > couchpotatoness, then have had it. No, no. Slitting the wrist has definitely been found to kill--best avoid that, too.
From: Robin King on 23 Aug 2008 19:20 > John A. Weeks III wrote: > > > If there was a quick fix for the weight problem, the problem would > > go away quickly. All that we have proven so far is that diet does > > not help the problem. Millions of people have spent millions of > > accumulated years on diets, and the result is that nearly all end > > up gaining weight within a year of the diet. Um, how about not considering weight a problem in the first place, except at extremes of high and low? Instead, we can concentrate on things like physical fitness, eating well, and putting an end to size discrimination. If this is too much off topic, let's continue it in ssf-a, and keep the diet stuff to the diet newsgroups. Somebody keeps xposting, probably a troll looking to start a flamewar. Robin
From: Pramesh Rutaji on 23 Aug 2008 22:40
Robin King wrote: > Instead, we can concentrate on things like physical fitness, > eating well, and putting an end to size discrimination. Physical fitness and eating well is good. But, not every ride at Disneyland should be required to accommodate obesity without limit. I support airlines that charge grossly obese people double fares - they don't have a right to occupy the space I've paid for. -- Pramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221(a)newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply |