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From: kureforcrohns on 17 Oct 2005 13:42 Jan At the risk of sounding out of the ordinary like some of the posts, and asking what is sane and ordinary, here are some thoughts. You had two teeth pulled. Were they a problem that the dentist confirmed. At this rate, you risk losing teeth and more weight by diminishing your eating ability. If you have lost 35 pounds and have had no energy and no appetite, I really hope that will pass quickly . But here is a possibility as strange as your own conclusion. Crohns illness is very subtle at times and hard to diagnose. A GI is best suited to sort out some problems. and crohns illness can affect the teeth and render them problem ridden. rather than the other way around. (The teeth causing the problems.) If you have read my theory, you know it is strange, a person takaing a stimulant and you have a mind/body or just mind connection with that person it can affect all parts of the body adversely, including teeth. You do not have to be in the persons presence to be affected, distance plays no part, only the mind connection is at work. You may say, I do not know anyone on a stimulant. But you have conversations with and about many on the newsgroups, particularly Alternative medicine, and I kinda think many of those are taking stimulant meds. It is possible to have a reaction to those persons. Sounding more and more weird. But this is an uncanny and weird process and cannot be ruled out unless your health improves dramatically. Unless a real situation exists meaning an organic illness, not a manmade one. If you cannot relate at all to this theory, just discard it. In all fairness, it is a difficult one to sort out, and I have a friend that had FibroMyalgia and had all her amalgams replaced with composites and says she is fine now. I remember though, when she was very friendly with another friend of ours who I believe was on anti-depressants and caused me some illness and I discontinued the friendship. Very nice person, but friendshipe wane and wax sometimes depending on conditions, so the affected person has not had reason to be so close to the one on anti-depressants, so I attributed her wellness to lesser friendship for now. That is how much perceptions vary. If you find this too unbelievable, that is allright. Just wanted to make you aware of it. As I deal with it on a daily basis with a friend in a nursing home made ill by others taking anti-depressants, as many of them do in nursing homes. Until they dispense with the anti-depressants, some residents continue to be ill beyond the ordinary conditions. Hope you will have the health return. Many conditions affect the teeth, and we must sort out if they are legitimate ones, often at a heavy price. Sincerely Gail I often wish to tell the nursing home owner, if that were her daughter with the extra 40 lbs. she would want to know why and do something about it instead of accepting it. Her answer is that my friend eats out of control. Well crohns causes eating out of control or losing weight as however they are affected. Thought long and hard about sending this, still am not sure, it is seems so hopeless.
From: LadyLollipop on 17 Oct 2005 20:47 <kureforcrohns(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:uoR4f.68$Kv.44(a)newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > Jan > At the risk of sounding out of the ordinary like some of the posts, and > asking what is sane and ordinary, here are some thoughts. You had two > teeth pulled. Were they a problem that the dentist confirmed. At > this > rate, you risk losing teeth and more weight by diminishing your eating > ability. If you have lost 35 pounds and have had no energy and no > appetite, I really hope that will pass quickly . But here is a > possibility as strange as your own conclusion. > Crohns illness is very subtle at times and hard to diagnose. A GI is > best > suited to sort out some problems. and crohns illness can affect the > teeth > and render them problem ridden. > rather than the other way around. (The teeth causing the problems.) > If > you have read my theory, you know it is strange, a person takaing a > stimulant and you have a mind/body or just mind connection with that > person > it can affect all parts of the body adversely, including teeth. You do > not > have to be in the persons presence to be affected, distance plays no part, > only the mind connection is at work. You may say, I do not know anyone > on a stimulant. But you have conversations with and about many on the > newsgroups, particularly Alternative medicine, and I kinda think many of > those are taking stimulant meds. It > is possible to have a reaction to those persons. > Sounding more and more weird. But this is an uncanny and weird process > and cannot be ruled out unless your health improves dramatically. > Unless > a real situation exists meaning an organic illness, not a manmade one. > If you cannot relate at all to this theory, just discard it. In all > fairness, it is a difficult one to sort out, and I have a friend that had > FibroMyalgia and had all her amalgams replaced with composites and says > she > is fine now. > I remember though, when she was very friendly with another friend of ours > who I believe was on anti-depressants and caused me some illness and I > discontinued the friendship. Very nice person, but friendshipe wane and > wax sometimes depending on conditions, so the affected person has not had > reason to be so close to the one on anti-depressants, so I attributed her > wellness to lesser friendship for now. That is how much perceptions > vary. > If you find this too unbelievable, that is allright. Just wanted to > make > you aware of it. > As I deal with it on a daily basis with a friend in a nursing home made > ill > by others taking anti-depressants, as many of them do in nursing homes. > Until they dispense with the anti-depressants, some residents continue to > be > ill beyond the ordinary conditions. > Hope you will have the health return. Many conditions affect the > teeth, > and we must sort out if they are legitimate ones, often at a heavy price. > Sincerely > Gail > > I often wish to tell the nursing home owner, if that were her daughter > with > the extra 40 lbs. she would want to know why and do something about it > instead of accepting it. Her answer is that my friend eats out of > control. > Well crohns causes eating out of control or losing weight as however they > are affected. > Thought long and hard about sending this, still am not sure, it is seems > so > hopeless. No problem Gail, one should always speak up when trying to help out of concern. I took a lot of medication when I was a patient of Diamond Headache Clinic. No doubt this played a number on my health, which may have indeed led to other problems. I haven't taken any anti- depressants for years. I am quite such I don't have Crohns. Yes, the teeth were a problem. Cavities at the gum line, this seems to be much like weakened bone in older women. Also the bone doesn't look as strong as it such, that is the next thing I am getting checked out. I suspect there is a problem in my jaw bone that has bothered me now for about seven years. Thank you for your questions and for speaking up. One never knows who they may help. Sincerely, Jan
From: LadyLollipop on 17 Oct 2005 22:32 Actually I don't need to say a word. The evidence is clear. <Rich.@.> wrote in message news:0pj8l1p3h5aekrilmt7utdp47295manrc9(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:47:08 GMT, "LadyLollipop" > <LadyLollipop(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >>I haven't taken any anti- depressants for years. > > Perhaps it would help for Jan to get back on them. She was on an > anti-depressant for years. > > >> I am quite such I don't >>have Crohns. > > Jan *is* a crone. > > Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue Jan to say that this post was just > for her. > > Aloha, > > Rich >
From: kureforcrohns on 18 Oct 2005 22:49 Jan, I have concluded I am not the best one to give advice, bu do want to say a few words. Would imagine that it is important to know the source causing the weight loss, and do you think it possible to lose the weight due to teeth. The bone problem is not uncommon for women in the older group and perhaps The Omega vitamins would be of help. That plus calcium seems sensible. Ask your dentist, but they are reluctant to advise on that. Hard to say about the other medication you took for the headaches. And you misunderstand about the anti-depressants. It is not the person taking the anti-depressants that gets crohns, it is when another person takes them and has a mind connection with a friend or member of family and that transmits a reaction to the person not on meds that translates into crohns. It does not originate in the body, but the reaction to stimulants can be devastating. I do hope you feel better, and nothing else need be done. Cavities at the gum line can be restored most of the time, it is the root canals that are the hated procedures because they are not always successful. If your energy and weight begin to improve, that would be an indication of better care. Don't worry too much, do you think Valium would put you more at ease and reduce the stress of how you feel. Again I am no expert on these situations, I too am trying to curb bone loss and trying to eat better than I had been used to. Once we really understand the problems from previous mistakes, that should be a good start in trying to maintain health. I hope you have a good dentist and a good physician that will set you on the road to health and energy. Regards Gail "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop(a)insightbb.com> wrote in message news:V8Z4f.493571$xm3.483911(a)attbi_s21... > Actually I don't need to say a word. The evidence is clear. > > <Rich.@.> wrote in message > news:0pj8l1p3h5aekrilmt7utdp47295manrc9(a)4ax.com... > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:47:08 GMT, "LadyLollipop" > > <LadyLollipop(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > > > >>I haven't taken any anti- depressants for years. > > > > Perhaps it would help for Jan to get back on them. She was on an > > anti-depressant for years. > > > > > >> I am quite such I don't > >>have Crohns. > > > > Jan *is* a crone. > > > > Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue Jan to say that this post was just > > for her. > > > > Aloha, > > > > Rich > > > >
From: LadyLollipop on 19 Oct 2005 00:52
<kureforcrohns(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:pvi5f.503$Lv.159(a)newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... > Jan, > > I have concluded I am not the best one to give advice, bu do want to say a > few words. > Would imagine that it is important to know the source causing the weight > loss, and do you think it possible to lose the weight due to teeth. The > bone problem is not uncommon for women in the older group and perhaps The > Omega vitamins would be of help. That plus calcium seems sensible. Ask > your dentist, but they are reluctant to advise on that. Hard to say > about > the other medication you took for the headaches. And you misunderstand > about the anti-depressants. It is not the person taking the > anti-depressants that gets crohns, it is when another person takes them > and > has a mind connection with a friend or member of family and that transmits > a > reaction to the person not on meds that translates into crohns. It does > not originate in the body, but the reaction to stimulants can be > devastating. > I do hope you feel better, and nothing else need be done. Cavities at > the > gum line can be restored most of the time, it is the root canals that are > the hated procedures because they are not always successful. > If your energy and weight begin to improve, that would be an indication of > better care. > Don't worry too much, do you think Valium would put you more at ease and > reduce the stress of how you feel. > Again I am no expert on these situations, I too am trying to curb bone > loss > and trying to eat better than I had been used to. Once we really > understand the problems from previous mistakes, that should be a good > start > in trying to maintain health. > I hope you have a good dentist and a good physician that will set you on > the > road to health and energy. > Regards > Gail Thanks, again Gail, I have a very good dentist. I am seeing a jaw bone specialist, in November I have suspected for a long time, there may be something wrong with that jaw bone. It has bothered me from day one, long before I had the metal removed from my mouth. I had surgery las year, spurs on the neck removed, that helped, but the pain returned. They say there is some arthritis in the side of the neck, but I have none anywhere else. My doctor wants to do other tests as well. Since I have a cyberstalker following me around, I can't say more than than. > > > "LadyLollipop" <LadyLollipop(a)insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:V8Z4f.493571$xm3.483911(a)attbi_s21... >> Actually I don't need to say a word. The evidence is clear. >> >> <Rich.@.> wrote in message >> news:0pj8l1p3h5aekrilmt7utdp47295manrc9(a)4ax.com... >> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:47:08 GMT, "LadyLollipop" >> > <LadyLollipop(a)insightbb.com> wrote: >> > >> >>I haven't taken any anti- depressants for years. >> > >> > Perhaps it would help for Jan to get back on them. She was on an >> > anti-depressant for years. >> > >> > >> >> I am quite such I don't >> >>have Crohns. >> > >> > Jan *is* a crone. >> > >> > Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue Jan to say that this post was just >> > for her. >> > >> > Aloha, >> > >> > Rich >> > >> >> > > |