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From: Priscilla H. Ballou on 12 Oct 2005 15:32
In article <Y6d3f.4528$f83.193(a)fe06.lga>,
Terry Stone <tstone8278(a)charter.net> wrote:

> Priscilla,
> This should have been addressed to you saying "Ted has...."

Why? First off, he didn't make the point you reference, and second,
this is not responsive to what I wrote.

Priscilla

> Sorry
> Terry
>
> Terry Stone wrote:
> > Ted,
> > Has provided a good point here and one needs to ensure if they are
> > going to use a supplement it does not harm you and hopefully helps. I
> > can only say that I have used chromium and it helped a little not a
> > great deal as some would like to make you believe.
> > The two supplements which have been prescribed (in the loose form of
> > the word) to me by my doctors are - calcium with magnesium for those
> > with diabetes to replace what is drained by the illness, and omega-3
> > complex for cholesterol and such.
> > Talk to your doctor and do your research to make an informed decision.
> > Terry Stone
> >
> > ted rosenerg wrote:
> >
> >> Susan wrote:
> >>
> >>> x-no-archive: yes
> >>>
> >>> Mikael wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have been reading that some nutritional supplements such as Bitter
> >>>> Melon, Chromium, Zinc, and so on are good for bringing down glucose
> >>>> numbers. I am thinking of trying Bitter Melon. Has any one else had
> >>>> success with supplements? I am open to suggestions and advice. Thank
> >>>> you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've had very good results with alpha lipoic acid for peripheral
> >>> neuropathy reversal. Chromium has been shown in many clinical
> >>> studies to aid in glucose control, too. I'd avoid the picolinate
> >>> form, though, in favor of GTF.
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>
> >>
> >> Chromium has NEVER been shown ro work
> >> all the scam studies are by the people who hold the patent on chromium
> >> poccolate
> >> It HAS been shown to be dangerous to your health - and U of Alabama
> >> Medical School has issued warnings against its use
> >>
> >> ANYTHING called a "supplement" should be suspect. If it were real, it
> >> would not be in the "snake oil exception" to the pure food and drug act.
> >
> >
From: None Given on 12 Oct 2005 16:12
"Mikael" <mikael26288(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ef_2f.9601$cg.8398(a)news02.roc.ny...
> I have been reading that some nutritional supplements such as Bitter
Melon,
> Chromium, Zinc, and so on are good for bringing down glucose numbers. I
am
> thinking of trying Bitter Melon. Has any one else had success with
> supplements? I am open to suggestions and advice. Thank you.


Chromium and magnesium would be good, IF you are deficient in those
minerals. ALA may help some. Don't expect miracles and only use bitter
melon if you have a good recipe to cook it with, there is no telling what's
really in the supplement.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes


From: Ma?k on 12 Oct 2005 20:53
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:20:13 -0400, Susan <nevermind(a)nomail.com>
Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:

>x-no-archive: eys
>
>Terry Stone wrote:
>> Ted,
>> Has provided a good point here and one needs to ensure if they are
>> going to use a supplement it does not harm you and hopefully helps.
>
>Ted made no such point.
>
>Susan


actually he did. Their are many scams and medical frauds sold as
supplements making claims that are just flat out false. AND there is
a clause in the pure food and drug act that allows these scams to be
sold as "health supplements". Hopefully, one day they will change
this and require all such items that make ANY medical claim to be
required to prove it with independent studies by legit labs and
researchers not funded by the manufacturers.

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From: Susan on 12 Oct 2005 21:40
x-no-archive: yes

Ma?k wrote:

>
> actually he did.
Their are many scams and medical frauds sold as
> supplements making claims that are just flat out false. AND there is
> a clause in the pure food and drug act that allows these scams to be
> sold as "health supplements". Hopefully, one day they will change
> this and require all such items that make ANY medical claim to be
> required to prove it with independent studies by legit labs and
> researchers not funded by the manufacturers.
>

Seriously, Mack. The above bears no relation to what Ted wrote. What
Ted claims is completely false.

Ted said none of what the OP plucked out of his, well, you know.

Ted just ranted irrationally and made no sense.

As usual.

Susan
From: ted rosenerg on 13 Oct 2005 05:28
Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Ma?k wrote:
>
>>
>> actually he did.
>
> Their are many scams and medical frauds sold as
>
>> supplements making claims that are just flat out false. AND there is
>> a clause in the pure food and drug act that allows these scams to be
>> sold as "health supplements". Hopefully, one day they will change
>> this and require all such items that make ANY medical claim to be
>> required to prove it with independent studies by legit labs and
>> researchers not funded by the manufacturers.
>>
>
> Seriously, Mack. The above bears no relation to what Ted wrote. What
> Ted claims is completely false.
>
> Ted said none of what the OP plucked out of his, well, you know.
>
> Ted just ranted irrationally and made no sense.
>
> As usual.
>
> Susan
No stupid
\I said exactly that

if it is called a "supplement" it is totally unregulated
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