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From: jerm on 19 Jul 2008 22:38
On Jun 7, 11:52 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6012c479-0529-445d-8a94-2c0141097...(a)v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 9:45 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0...(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > >  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
>
> > > > > [clip]
>
> > > > > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question.  (I clipped the rest.)
>
> > > > > Do you still have the same question at this point?
>
> > > > > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > > > > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > > > > my money?"
>
> > > >   No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> > > > having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> > > >   4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> > > > symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> > > >  I had no problem. And another  "specialist" had used his JVA to
> > > > justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems..
> > > > So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> > > > wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> > > > already.
>
> > > > > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > > > > discussed for a few weeks now.
>
> > > > > Webby
>
> > > Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it.  You didn't
> > > answer my question.  Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
> > > confident that you have a "tm problem".
>
> > > With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
> > > what you understand that to mean.
>
> > > Webby
>
> > i was using the "tmj" i guess as a catchall for the clenching,
> > headache, neck pain,popping,  and the rest of my symptoms. im guessing
> > thats an incorrect term for the problem. thats all i meant.
>
> Okay.  It's probably a better idea to try to understand specifics than
> generalities.  But I think you have a plan and that's great.  Again, I
> wish you the best.
>
> Webby

i had a plan, but the plan got me nowhere.
From: jerm on 19 Jul 2008 22:41
On Jun 7, 11:52 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6012c479-0529-445d-8a94-2c0141097...(a)v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 9:45 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0...(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > >  jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
>
> > > > > [clip]
>
> > > > > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question.  (I clipped the rest.)
>
> > > > > Do you still have the same question at this point?
>
> > > > > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > > > > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > > > > my money?"
>
> > > >   No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> > > > having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> > > >   4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> > > > symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> > > >  I had no problem. And another  "specialist" had used his JVA to
> > > > justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems..
> > > > So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> > > > wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> > > > already.
>
> > > > > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > > > > discussed for a few weeks now.
>
> > > > > Webby
>
> > > Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it.  You didn't
> > > answer my question.  Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
> > > confident that you have a "tm problem".
>
> > > With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
> > > what you understand that to mean.
>
> > > Webby
>
> > i was using the "tmj" i guess as a catchall for the clenching,
> > headache, neck pain,popping,  and the rest of my symptoms. im guessing
> > thats an incorrect term for the problem. thats all i meant.
>
> Okay.  It's probably a better idea to try to understand specifics than
> generalities.  But I think you have a plan and that's great.  Again, I
> wish you the best.
>
> Webby

had a plan, but the plan didnt do nothing yet.
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