From: jerm on
On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
>
> I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
>
> Webby

Im still HERE.....thanks
From: jerm on
On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
>
> I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
>
> Webby

btw this whole thing started after i opened my mouth sideways and
dislocated somethings. since then it pops about weekly and the muscle
in my
post skull and neck and face are constantly in spasm,pinching my jaw
joint. regardless of all of this, the three other "tmj specialists", 2
of them ucla proffessors, see nothing wrong and tried to funnel me to
their pain psychologist. absolutely ridiculous.
From: jerm on
On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
>
> I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
>
> Webby

Yes im still here
From: The Webby on
In article
<eb9cf04f-514c-4719-9363-769bf81c7b9c(a)w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
> >
> > I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> > wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
> >
> > Webby
>
> btw this whole thing started after i opened my mouth sideways and
> dislocated somethings. since then it pops about weekly and the muscle
> in my
> post skull and neck and face are constantly in spasm,pinching my jaw
> joint. regardless of all of this, the three other "tmj specialists", 2
> of them ucla proffessors, see nothing wrong and tried to funnel me to
> their pain psychologist. absolutely ridiculous.

Hello,

First, I'm wondering if you would mind cross-posting your thread to
sci.med.dentistry ... There are a number of dentists there whom I think
would be interested in discussing this with you and smd's readers.

And secondly, since you're seeing dentists associated with UCLA, I'm
assuming you could make a trip to San Diego for an opinion with Dr.
Boyd. Since you've been prescribed an NTI, and you did not find the
results effective, maybe a visit to see him (the inventor) is in order
since he's only a couple hours away from LA.

Hoping to see the thread cross-posted to sci.med.dentistry

Webby
From: The Webby on
In article
<eb9cf04f-514c-4719-9363-769bf81c7b9c(a)w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
> >
> > I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> > wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
> >
> > Webby
>
> btw this whole thing started after i opened my mouth sideways and
> dislocated somethings. since then it pops about weekly and the muscle
> in my
> post skull and neck and face are constantly in spasm,pinching my jaw
> joint. regardless of all of this, the three other "tmj specialists", 2
> of them ucla proffessors, see nothing wrong and tried to funnel me to
> their pain psychologist. absolutely ridiculous.

BTW, you said a neurologist prescribed the NTI. Who actually made the
NTI and followed your progress with it?

You should realize, if you already don't, that the device should be
reevaluated. What have the "3 TMJ specialists" said about the NTI?

The "3 TMJ specialists" ... what makes them so special anyway?

Webby