From: jerm on
On Jun 7, 9:45 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0...(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
>
> > > [clip]
>
> > > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)
>
> > > Do you still have the same question at this point?
>
> > > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > > my money?"
>
> > No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> > having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> > 4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> > symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> > I had no problem. And another "specialist" had used his JVA to
> > justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems.
> > So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> > wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> > already.
>
> > > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > > discussed for a few weeks now.
>
> > > Webby
>
> Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it. You didn't
> answer my question. Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
> confident that you have a "tm problem".
>
> With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
> what you understand that to mean.
>
> Webby

i was using the "tmj" i guess as a catchall for the clenching,
headache, neck pain,popping, and the rest of my symptoms. im guessing
thats an incorrect term for the problem. thats all i meant.
From: The Webby on
In article
<6012c479-0529-445d-8a94-2c0141097e5d(a)v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 7, 9:45 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0...(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
> >
> > > > [clip]
> >
> > > > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)
> >
> > > > Do you still have the same question at this point?
> >
> > > > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > > > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > > > my money?"
> >
> > > No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> > > having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> > > 4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> > > symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> > > I had no problem. And another "specialist" had used his JVA to
> > > justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems.
> > > So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> > > wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> > > already.
> >
> > > > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > > > discussed for a few weeks now.
> >
> > > > Webby
> >
> > Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it. You didn't
> > answer my question. Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
> > confident that you have a "tm problem".
> >
> > With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
> > what you understand that to mean.
> >
> > Webby
>
> i was using the "tmj" i guess as a catchall for the clenching,
> headache, neck pain,popping, and the rest of my symptoms. im guessing
> thats an incorrect term for the problem. thats all i meant.

Okay. It's probably a better idea to try to understand specifics than
generalities. But I think you have a plan and that's great. Again, I
wish you the best.

Webby
From: jerm on
On Jun 7, 11:52 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6012c479-0529-445d-8a94-2c0141097...(a)v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 9:45 am, TheWebby<tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0...(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 4, 9:48 am, TheWebby<tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
>
> > > > > [clip]
>
> > > > > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)
>
> > > > > Do you still have the same question at this point?
>
> > > > > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > > > > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > > > > my money?"
>
> > > > No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> > > > having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> > > > 4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> > > > symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> > > > I had no problem. And another "specialist" had used his JVA to
> > > > justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems.
> > > > So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> > > > wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> > > > already.
>
> > > > > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > > > > discussed for a few weeks now.
>
> > > > >Webby
>
> > > Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it. You didn't
> > > answer my question. Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
> > > confident that you have a "tm problem".
>
> > > With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
> > > what you understand that to mean.
>
> > >Webby
>
> > i was using the "tmj" i guess as a catchall for the clenching,
> > headache, neck pain,popping, and the rest of my symptoms. im guessing
> > thats an incorrect term for the problem. thats all i meant.
>
> Okay. It's probably a better idea to try to understand specifics than
> generalities. But I think you have a plan and that's great. Again, I
> wish you the best.
>
> Webby

also, thanks for bringing attention to my original post. Probably the
main reason behind getting the input from
everybody leading me back to Dr. Boyd. Otherwise, id still be here
spinning out without any plan.