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From: jerm on 13 May 2008 21:06
On May 13, 8:12 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <eb9cf04f-514c-4719-9363-769bf81c7...(a)w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > > > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > > > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > > > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > > > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > > > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > > > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > > > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > > > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > > > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > > > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > > > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > > > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > > > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > > > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
>
> > > I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> > > wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
>
> > > Webby
>
> > btw this whole thing started after i opened my mouth sideways and
> > dislocated somethings. since then it pops about weekly and the muscle
> > in my
> > post skull and neck and face are constantly in spasm,pinching my jaw
> > joint. regardless of all of this, the three other "tmj specialists", 2
> > of them ucla proffessors, see nothing wrong and tried to funnel me to
> > their pain psychologist. absolutely ridiculous.
>
> BTW, you said a neurologist prescribed the NTI. Who actually made the
> NTI and followed your progress with it?
>
> You should realize, if you already don't, that the device should be
> reevaluated. What have the "3 TMJ specialists" said about the NTI?
>
> The "3 TMJ specialists" ... what makes them so special anyway?
>
> Webby

i have no idea what makes them special, i believe the only criteria
for treating tmj is willingness to accept huge amounts of money for
providing 15 minutes of time. And i got my NTI from Dr. Boyd, whom i
visited three times without actually receiving an exam, and after not
making any progress He decided not to return my emails. And i have yet
to crosspost, so im not sure how do to that. thanks
From: The Webby on 30 May 2008 13:55
In article
<c50654e3-8c83-4236-96e1-b4b21b040285(a)q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 13, 8:12 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <eb9cf04f-514c-4719-9363-769bf81c7...(a)w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 4, 4:43 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > ive woken up with a headache in the back of my head and neck for more
> > > > > than a year. i am a severe nightime clencher, and i do believe that is
> > > > > at the root of my problem. however, i tried an NTI, prescribed by a
> > > > > neurologist and i only would wake up in the middle of the night
> > > > > completely clamped down on it, and would feel my jaw joints moving
> > > > > back into socket or something after i would take it out. for the next
> > > > > two weeks i would have the most excruciating headache(like knives
> > > > > being twisted into my ears). i more than dissapointed, as nothing has
> > > > > worked for my clenching and headahces. and to make matters worse, it
> > > > > seems that the 3 TMJ specialists did their exam and couldnt find any
> > > > > tenderdness of my joint, so no treatment suggested. so although my jaw
> > > > > hurts and i clench every night there is no relation? These are so-
> > > > > called specialists. do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money? sheesh. one neuro tried
> > > > > telling me i have transformed migraine and another thinks its from the
> > > > > clenching. i dont know who to believe.
> >
> > > > I'd like to offer a reply if you're still lurking/waiting for one. I'll
> > > > wait to formulate the post until I know that or when you're "here".
> >
> > > > Webby
> >
> > > btw this whole thing started after i opened my mouth sideways and
> > > dislocated somethings. since then it pops about weekly and the muscle
> > > in my
> > > post skull and neck and face are constantly in spasm,pinching my jaw
> > > joint. regardless of all of this, the three other "tmj specialists", 2
> > > of them ucla proffessors, see nothing wrong and tried to funnel me to
> > > their pain psychologist. absolutely ridiculous.
> >
> > BTW, you said a neurologist prescribed the NTI. Who actually made the
> > NTI and followed your progress with it?
> >
> > You should realize, if you already don't, that the device should be
> > reevaluated. What have the "3 TMJ specialists" said about the NTI?
> >
> > The "3 TMJ specialists" ... what makes them so special anyway?
> >
> > Webby
>
> i have no idea what makes them special, i believe the only criteria
> for treating tmj is willingness to accept huge amounts of money for
> providing 15 minutes of time. And i got my NTI from Dr. Boyd, whom i
> visited three times without actually receiving an exam, and after not
> making any progress He decided not to return my emails. And i have yet
> to crosspost, so im not sure how do to that. thanks

I see that you were able to find a way to take your concerns to smd.
Great! Best of luck to you.

Webby
From: The Webby on 4 Jun 2008 12:48
In article
<2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603673(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

[clip]
> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
[clip]

jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)

Do you still have the same question at this point?

Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
my money?"

I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
discussed for a few weeks now.

Webby
From: jerm on 6 Jun 2008 23:01
On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
>
> [clip]
>
> jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)
>
> Do you still have the same question at this point?
>
> Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> my money?"

No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
I had no problem. And another "specialist" had used his JVA to
justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems.
So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
already.
>
> I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> discussed for a few weeks now.
>
> Webby

From: The Webby on 7 Jun 2008 12:45
In article
<ec020545-5c77-42b9-bb91-2990057a0c59(a)l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
jerm <blownout(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 4, 9:48 am, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2ea7280d-d35e-413c-800f-a27415603...(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > jerm <blown...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [clip]> do i just keep searching for a dentist who will
> > > tell me i have tmj and take all of my money?
> >
> > [clip]
> >
> > jerm, back on 4/24/08, you asked this question. (I clipped the rest.)
> >
> > Do you still have the same question at this point?
> >
> > Speaking of "confusion"... what does "tmj" mean as you used it (here)
> > and what do you mean by "...who will tell me i have tmj and take all of
> > my money?"
>
> No, im pretty confident that ive got a tm problem. The problem I was
> having was getting a real diagnosis. I had visited
> 4 "orofacial pain specialists" who gave me an exam and despite the
> symptoms I was and am dealing with, tried to convince me
> I had no problem. And another "specialist" had used his JVA to
> justify his plan of me paying him 5000 dollars to "fix" my problems.
> So, i was faced with those 2 options. But at this point ive beeb
> wearing the NTI full time for a few days and seeing improvement
> already.
> >
> > I've cross-posted this to smd where the topic has been actively
> > discussed for a few weeks now.
> >
> > Webby

Okay... I asked you what you meant by "tmj" as you used it. You didn't
answer my question. Instead, you went on to tell me that you're pretty
confident that you have a "tm problem".

With this confidence that you have, *please* explain to us (the readers)
what you understand that to mean.

Webby
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