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From: Jan Drew on 5 Jul 2008 20:14
http://news.aol.com/health/story/ar/_a/mom-accused-of-denying-son-chemo/20080703102809990001?icid=200100397x1205086835x1200242430

From: Marc Bissonnette on 6 Jul 2008 15:57
"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374(a)sbcglobal.net> fell face-first on the keyboard.
This was the result: news:j8Ubk.13159$xZ.1717(a)nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:

> http://news.aol.com/health/story/ar/_a/mom-accused-of-denying-son-chemo
> /20080703102809990001?icid=200100397x1205086835x1200242430

You say, in your subject title, that this is "NOT a free country" - It
(Both Canada and the USA) most certainly is - You, for example, have every
right to swing your fist - that right, however, stops at the tip of my
nose.

In other words, you are free to do as you wish until you pose a danger, by
action or witholding of action, to others.

From that article:

"He had a good prognosis when first diagnosed, with chances of recovery put
at 85 percent to 90 percent, according to a police report. But his chances
have dropped to 10 percent since being deprived of medication, authorities
said."

....

"In March, Dr. Alison Friedmann, the child's oncologist at Massachusetts
General Hospital, filed a report of suspected neglect with the Department
of Social Services after discovering Fraser's cancer had returned,
something that should not have happened if he was on his medications."

In other words, by witholding chemotherapy, the "mother" (and I use that
term with disdain in this case) dropped her own son's chances of survival
from 85% to practically nil.

That is the choice one makes when having children: You have
_responsibilities_ because they are not old enough to carry out those
responsibilities themselves.

"NOT a free country" ? You actually believe that the mother had the _RIGHT_
to deny her son a (good) chance to live ? You disgust me.



--
Marc Bissonnette
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From: J on 6 Jul 2008 17:09
Marc Bissonnette wrote:

> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374(a)sbcglobal.net> fell face-first on the keyboard.
> This was the result: news:j8Ubk.13159$xZ.1717(a)nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
> > http://news.aol.com/health/story/ar/_a/mom-accused-of-denying-son-chemo
> > /20080703102809990001?icid=200100397x1205086835x1200242430
>
> You say, in your subject title, that this is "NOT a free country" - It
> (Both Canada and the USA) most certainly is - You, for example, have every
> right to swing your fist - that right, however, stops at the tip of my
> nose.
>
> In other words, you are free to do as you wish until you pose a danger, by
> action or witholding of action, to others.
>
> From that article:
>
> "He had a good prognosis when first diagnosed, with chances of recovery put
> at 85 percent to 90 percent, according to a police report. But his chances
> have dropped to 10 percent since being deprived of medication, authorities
> said."
>
> ...
>
> "In March, Dr. Alison Friedmann, the child's oncologist at Massachusetts
> General Hospital, filed a report of suspected neglect with the Department
> of Social Services after discovering Fraser's cancer had returned,
> something that should not have happened if he was on his medications."
>
> In other words, by witholding chemotherapy, the "mother" (and I use that
> term with disdain in this case) dropped her own son's chances of survival
> from 85% to practically nil.
>
> That is the choice one makes when having children: You have
> _responsibilities_ because they are not old enough to carry out those
> responsibilities themselves.
>
> "NOT a free country" ? You actually believe that the mother had the _RIGHT_
> to deny her son a (good) chance to live ? You disgust me.

<
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1031195/Mother-deliberately-withheld-sons-cancer-treatment--condemning-die.html
>
'This child was in remission.His prognosis was good. This child came out of
remission. He is not expected to survive.'

Prosecutors and police have not revealed a motive for LaBrie's decision to
withhold her son's cancer treatment.

However LaBrie and her ex-husband, Eric Fraser, are involved in a bitter
divorce which her lawyers says is to blame for the charges.

According to the police report Fraser was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma
in 2006.

He underwent a five-phase regime of chemotherapy, including drugs that were
supposed to be given to him by his mum at his home in Salem, Massachusetts.

Police said LaBrie cancelled at least a dozen appointments for chemotherapy
treatments.

She also failed to fill at least half of the prescriptions her son was given by
doctors.

The child's oncologist, Dr Alison Friendmann, filed a report of suspected
neglect with the social services after discovering Jeremy's cancer had
returned.

She said with the course of treatment prescribed for the eight-year-old the
cancer should not have returned.

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=7567
For many years the survival rates for children with NHL after treatment have
been getting better. Between 1962 and 1966 only 17 out of every 100 (17%)
children treated for all types of NHL were alive 5 years later. But between
1992 and 1996, 77 out of every 100 (77%) children were alive 5 years later.
The 90% figure your son�s specialist mentions is likely to come from results of
one of the European BFM studies, published in 2000. This study suggests that
90 out of every 100 children with T cell lymphoblastic lymphoma (90%) survive
for at least five years. Do bear in mind that this is an overall statistic for
all stages of T cell lymphoblastic lymphoma.


http://www.cancernews.com/articles/childhoodlymphomas.htm
Children with Hodgkin's lymphoma who exhibit the following symptoms (B
symptoms) usually have more advanced disease and a worse prognosis: temperature
101degree F, drenching night sweats, or 10 lb weight loss over 6 months.
Children with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma who have either bone marrow or central
nervous system involvement would also, in general, have a worse prognosis.

Treatment for Hodgkin's Lymphoma: Even though radiation therapy is usually the
treatment of choice for the adult patients with Hodgkin's disease, chemotherapy
is usually chosen over radiation therapy for the treatment of children, because
children with fast growing bones and soft tissues are more sensitive to effects
of radiation therapy. If radiation therapy is used (as in the case of a large
tumor in the chest that is difficult to sterilize by chemotherapy alone, or the
presence of B symptoms , or having stages III/IV disease), the dose of
radiation given would be reduced almost by half to prevent stunted growth or
deformed bones from developing at the site of radiation treatment. The medicine
(chemotherapy) used in the treatment of Hodgkin's disease include: alternating
courses of vincristine, prednisone, nitrogen mustard, procarbazine (MOPP) and
adriamycin, bleomycin, vinblastine and dacarbazine (ABVD) for 6 months (stages
I/II) to 12 months (stages 2B, III/IV).

Treatment for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL): Children with NHL tend to have
advanced disease with a higher incidence of either bone marrow and/or central
nervous system involvement. The treatment of choice is, therefore, more
intensive chemotherapy. Because there are 2 types of NHL, the treatments for
these 2 types are also quite different. The 2 types of NHL are called either
B-cell NHL or T-cell NHL, depending on the type of lymphocyte (a type of white
blood cell) that has turned cancerous. Treatment for B-cell NHL includes
Adriamycin, Ara-C, cyclophosphamide, ifosfamide, methotrexate, vincristine and
vinblastine given as an injection into the vein in various combinations and
time intervals. Ara-C and methotrexate are also given as an injection into the
cerebrospinal fluid (the liquid surrounding the brain and the spinal cord)
through a spinal tap to prevent the disease from spreading there and as
treatment for the disease that has already spread there. Treatment for T-cell
NHL includes Adriamycin, cyclophosphamide, L-asparaginase, methotrexate, and
vincristine given as an injection into the vein, with mercaptopurine and
prednisone given by mouth in various combinations and time intervals. Ara-C and
methotrexate are also given as an injection into the cerebrospinal fluid (the
liquid surrounding the brain and the spinal cord) through a spinal tap to
\prevent the disease from spreading there and as treatment for the disease that
has already spread there. Radiation therapy to the head for the prevention and
treatment of disease involving the central nervous system.

Because of the excellent response to chemotherapy, bone marrow transplantation
is being used experimentally for patients who are resistant to chemotherapy or
whose lymphoma recurred after initial response to chemotherapy.

There are 2 types of bone marrow transplantation: allogeneic bone marrow
transplantation (AlloBMT) is when a marrow donor is used and autologous bone
marrow transplantation (ABMT), when the patients' own bone marrow is given back
to the patient.

The limitations for the AlloBMT are:

1. Not everybody has a compatible marrow donor. There is only a 25% chance of
finding a compatible marrow donor among one's siblings - the best source for
marrow donors. The chances drop to 5% among other blood relatives and
1:1,000,000 among unrelated donors.

2. Depending on the experience of the transplantation team, there is 5-20%
death rate associated with the bone marrow transplantation, either from
infection, graft rejection (the patient rejects the donor's cells) or acute
graft versus host disease (the donor's cells attack the patient's bodily
organs/systems).

3. Late complications may include: rigid lung, damaged heart muscles,
infertility, chronic graft versus host disease and recurrence of the lymphoma.

The problem with ABMT is the recurrence of lymphoma after bone marrow
transplantation. "

newsgroups trimmed.
J


From: J on 6 Jul 2008 17:15
J, no> wrote:

> Marc Bissonnette wrote:
>
> > In other words, by witholding chemotherapy, the "mother" (and I use that
> > term with disdain in this case) dropped her own son's chances of survival
> > from 85% to practically nil.
> >
> > That is the choice one makes when having children: You have
> > _responsibilities_ because they are not old enough to carry out those
> > responsibilities themselves.
> >
> > "NOT a free country" ? You actually believe that the mother had the _RIGHT_
> > to deny her son a (good) chance to live ? You disgust me.
>
> <
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1031195/Mother-deliberately-withheld-sons-cancer-treatment--condemning-die.html
> >
> 'This child was in remission.His prognosis was good. This child came out of
> remission. He is not expected to survive.'
>
> Prosecutors and police have not revealed a motive for LaBrie's decision to
> withhold her son's cancer treatment.
>
> However LaBrie and her ex-husband, Eric Fraser, are involved in a bitter
> divorce which her lawyers says is to blame for the charges.
>
> According to the police report Fraser was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma
> in 2006.
>
> He underwent a five-phase regime of chemotherapy, including drugs that were
> supposed to be given to him by his mum at his home in Salem, Massachusetts.
>
> Police said LaBrie cancelled at least a dozen appointments for chemotherapy
> treatments.
>
> She also failed to fill at least half of the prescriptions her son was given by
> doctors.
>
> The child's oncologist, Dr Alison Friendmann, filed a report of suspected
> neglect with the social services after discovering Jeremy's cancer had
> returned.
>
> She said with the course of treatment prescribed for the eight-year-old the
> cancer should not have returned.
> [..]
>
> http://www.cancernews.com/articles/childhoodlymphomas.htm
>
> Treatment for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL): Children with NHL tend to have
> advanced disease with a higher incidence of either bone marrow and/or central
> nervous system involvement. The treatment of choice is, therefore, more
> intensive chemotherapy. Because there are 2 types of NHL, the treatments for
> these 2 types are also quite different. The 2 types of NHL are called either
> B-cell NHL or T-cell NHL, depending on the type of lymphocyte (a type of white
> blood cell) that has turned cancerous. Treatment for B-cell NHL includes
> Adriamycin, Ara-C, cyclophosphamide, ifosfamide, methotrexate, vincristine and
> vinblastine given as an injection into the vein in various combinations and
> time intervals. Ara-C and methotrexate are also given as an injection into the
> cerebrospinal fluid (the liquid surrounding the brain and the spinal cord)
> through a spinal tap to prevent the disease from spreading there and as
> treatment for the disease that has already spread there. Treatment for T-cell
> NHL includes Adriamycin, cyclophosphamide, L-asparaginase, methotrexate, and
> vincristine given as an injection into the vein, with mercaptopurine and
> prednisone given by mouth in various combinations and time intervals. Ara-C and
> methotrexate are also given as an injection into the cerebrospinal fluid (the
> liquid surrounding the brain and the spinal cord) through a spinal tap to
> \prevent the disease from spreading there and as treatment for the disease that
> has already spread there. Radiation therapy to the head for the prevention and
> treatment of disease involving the central nervous system.
>
> Because of the excellent response to chemotherapy, bone marrow transplantation
> is being used experimentally for patients who are resistant to chemotherapy or
> whose lymphoma recurred after initial response to chemotherapy.
>
> There are 2 types of bone marrow transplantation: allogeneic bone marrow
> transplantation (AlloBMT) is when a marrow donor is used and autologous bone
> marrow transplantation (ABMT), when the patients' own bone marrow is given back
> to the patient.
>
> The limitations for the AlloBMT are:
>
> 1. Not everybody has a compatible marrow donor. There is only a 25% chance of
> finding a compatible marrow donor among one's siblings - the best source for
> marrow donors. The chances drop to 5% among other blood relatives and
> 1:1,000,000 among unrelated donors.
>
> 2. Depending on the experience of the transplantation team, there is 5-20%
> death rate associated with the bone marrow transplantation, either from
> infection, graft rejection (the patient rejects the donor's cells) or acute
> graft versus host disease (the donor's cells attack the patient's bodily
> organs/systems).
>
> 3. Late complications may include: rigid lung, damaged heart muscles,
> infertility, chronic graft versus host disease and recurrence of the lymphoma.
>
> The problem with ABMT is the recurrence of lymphoma after bone marrow
> transplantation. "

her husband "hit the road" for reasons only known to him.
And left her to deal with it. Now he wants back in.
We (nor the prosecutor, nor courts, nor children's aid (etc) were there to help her 24/7.
We have no right to be judgemental.
J

From: Jan Drew on 7 Jul 2008 00:49

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:j8Ubk.13159$xZ.1717(a)nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> http://news.aol.com/health/story/ar/_a/mom-accused-of-denying-son-chemo/20080703102809990001?icid=200100397x1205086835x1200242430
Labrie declined comment to the Salem Evening News as she left court. Her
lawyer, Kevin James, said Labrie had taken her son more than 100 times to
Massachusetts General Hospital and "has been extensively involved in this
child's care."

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