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From: pharmacy jen on 20 Sep 2005 04:47
Does anyone have any positive or negative personal experiences with any
of the above drugs? If you would share them with me, it would be
greatly appreciated.

thanks

From: Hugh Watkins on 21 Sep 2005 05:46
spammer

all in all both surgery and drugs earn a lot of $$$$$$$ for the
suppliers of thos products

try and use other methods like slow but permanent life style changes
in diet and exercise routine

don't be a guinea pig unless you are desparate
or
3 or 4 times "ideal" weight and cannot cope

Hugh W

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the classic drug of the 1950ies dieter was amphetamine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine

but the side effects are horrible

"Chronic amphetamine use can cause severe psychological dependence.
Long-term use can result in extreme exhaustion and malnutrition."

agression and paranoia are also seen

someof the diet drugs are variations on amphetamine designed to avoid
the letter of the law

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Letigen

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=letigen&btnG=Google+Search

in danish
"dødsfald, blodpropper og hjerneskader."
sudden deaths, strokes or blood clots and brain damage
http://www.fbr.dk/store/letigen/

The anorexic agent Letigen, which contains 200 mg coffeine and 20 mg
ephedrine, has been extensively...


anything with ephedrine is forbidden today

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10643382&dopt=Abstract

H:S Bispebjerg Hospital, klinisk biokemisk, kardiologisk og
anaestesiologisk afdeling. Hedetoft(a)dadlnet.dk

The anorexic agent Letigen, which contains 200 mg coffeine and 20 mg
ephedrine, has been extensively used during the last decade. The case
report describes a 19 year-old woman who ingested 50 Letigen tablets in
a suicidal attempt.

She developed severe toxic manifestations from the heart, CNS, muscles,
liver and kidneys leading to several cardiac arrests, and died
subsequently of cerebral oedema and incarceration on the fourth day of
hospitalization.

Because of the potentially life-threatening intoxication following an
overdose, prescription of Letigen must be carefully administered

<< search
site:gov to avoid the spammers like this guy

1997.07.08 : Health Advisory On Fenfluramine/Phentermine for Obesity
Health Advisory On Fenfluramine/Phentermine for Obesity ... heart
disease in
women treated for obesity with a combination of fenfluramine and
phentermine. ...
www.hhs.gov/news/press/1997pres/970708.html

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Xenical site:gov


A newly approved anti-obesity drug works by blocking the body's
absorption of fat, not by suppressing the appetite like other diet
drugs.

Xenical (orlistat), approved by FDA in April, decreases a person's fat
absorption by about 30 percent by preventing the body from breaking
down dietary fats into smaller, absorbable molecules. It is the first
anti-obesity drug in a drug class known as lipase inhibitors.

Xenical is for obese patients with a body mass index (BMI, a measure of
weight in relation to height) of 30 or more, or for patients with a BMI
of at least 27 who also have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or
diabetes. (A person 5 feet 5 inches tall who weighs 180 pounds, for
example, would have a BMI of 30.)

In seven long-term clinical trials of more than 4,000 patients, 57
percent of those who completed one year of treatment with Xenical lost
at least 5 percent of their baseline body weight, compared with 31
percent of patients treated with a placebo for the same length of time.

The recommended dose of Xenical is one capsule with each main meal that
includes fat. During treatment, the patient should be on a
nutritionally balanced, reduced-calorie diet that contains no more than
30 percent of calories from fat. Also, because Xenical reduces the
absorption of some fat-soluble vitamins and beta carotene, patients
should take a supplement containing fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E and
K) and beta carotene.

The drug's most common side effects are oily spotting, gas with
discharge, fecal urgency, fatty/oily stools, and frequent bowel
movements.

Xenical is made by Roche Laboratories Inc., Nutley, N.J.

<< well on the toilet all day

a simpler solution is to drop fat from your diet as far as possible

I am fat now so I don't need to eat any fats'
because I have several years supply stored in my body.
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Meridia site:gov death
sibutramine


Abbott Laboratories
.... a serious and report for a death associated with the drug product,
Meridia.
.... such as in three reports of death associated with the use of
Meridia, ...
www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/g3420d.htm


MedlinePlus Drug Information: Sibutramine
Sibutramine is used in combination with a reduced calorie diet and
exercise to
.... Sibutramine is in a class of medications called appetite
suppressants. ...
www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ druginfo/medmaster/a601110.html -


I don't supress my appetite
I satisfy it by eating mountains of green vegetables and furits

FDA Denies Bid to Ban Weight-Loss Drug

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has denied a consumer group's
request to ban the Abbott Laboratories weight-loss drug Meridia
(sibutramine), the Chicago Tribune reported.

Despite studies that have shown that the drug elevates blood pressure
in some patients, the FDA found that Meridia's benefits continued to
outweigh its risks, the newspaper reported. In lieu of the decision,
the drug's maker pointed out that the medicine's risks are clearly
spelled out on FDA-required labeling.

Nonetheless, the consumer group Public Citizen, which three years ago
filed a complaint with the FDA that Meridia had contributed to dozens
of deaths since its approval in 1997, condemned the agency's decision
to allow the drug to stay on the market.

"Once again, the FDA is siding with a large drug company," Public
Citizen Director Dr. Sidney Wolfe said in a statement. "How many more
dangerously flawed decisions will the FDA make before the Congress
repeals the Prescription Drug User Fee Act, which brings the agency
ever closer to the companies that give it almost $200 million a year in
funding."

An FDA spokesman said the company has been working with the drugmaker
to improve Meridia's labeling.

In a statement, Abbott said Meridia had been proven safe and effective
"for people who need to lose 30 pounds or more depending on height and
"when combined with diet and exercise," the Tribune reported.

Last fall during hearings into the possible dangers of some pain drugs,
FDA safety officer Dr. David Graham listed Meridia among five
potentially dangerous drugs that the agency needed to review, the
newspaper said.
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all in all both surgery and drugs earn a lot of $$$$$$$ for the
suppliers of thos products

try and use other methods like slow but permanent life style changes
in diet and exercise

don't be a guinea pig unless you are desparate
2 to 4 tilems "ideal" weight

Hugh W

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