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From: Jan Drew on 24 Jul 2008 22:15

"Mark Probert" <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:12c29395-038c-4af8-84bc-3b50942da933(a)i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 24, 3:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...(a)zzz.com> wrote:

> The Probert FAQ -

fArtie, first you plagiarize and alter an article from the Washington
Post, then you need to copy me when I wrote the legendary FragerFAQ:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b341b3952f0e6e95

You keep proving what an utter loser you are.
=================
And--you are not Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY.
Neither are you Mark S Probert, Long Island, NY
And you have no children.
And you are not Mark Probert.
And--Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the
breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.

And, you never posted as AloysiousX.
And, you never emailed me using that fake name.
And you didn't use aol. It was your son computer.
And--you were not disbarred.
And--you read Torah everyday.
And you use filthy langauage.
And you repeatedly call names.

Now--who is not only the utter loser, but proven liar beyond doubt?


From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)
Subject: Re: NBC Nightly News Segment on overuse of Ritalin
Date: 1996/07/02
Message-ID: <4rbm3n$shd(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 163353426
sender: n...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <4qs44e$91(a)news1.infinet.com>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit


In article <4qs44e...(a)news1.infinet.com>, jpal...(a)infinet.com (John
Palmer) writes:

>Er, no. No one, to the extent of my knowledge, has ever been flamed for
saying that diagnoses should be made carefully and responsibly.USUALLY,
what happens is someone comes in and INSISTS there is widespread
overprescription of ritalin and INSISTS that Doctors are being lazy in
their diagnoses and INSISTS that there are schools with 75% of all
children on ritalin. <

I asked Josh's school nurse if she could tell me how many kids are on ADHD
medication (the district requires that all medications be known, as they
may need to provide medical care in an emergency). Seems that 3% of the
JHS are on meds.



Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York


Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
From: msprob...(a)aol.com
Date: 1997/01/03
Subject: Re: ADD, Teens, Driving

In article <qsxq$LAiJuyyE...(a)helping-hands.demon.co.uk>, "Z.L"



<z...(a)helping-hands.demon.co.uk> writes:
>sounds just like my son. We had his field of vision tested, and it was
>very limited. No wonder he missed those cars. I refused to go in the car
>with him and he has had lots of crashes ( minor thank G-d ). We gave him
>a course of Auditory Integration Training combined with Light Therapy in
>a two week course of treatment. It is certainly worth considering. As
>far as I know either treatment is available in the USA but only in the
>UK is is available as a combined treatment.


Hi Z.L.:
Got any proof that this works, yet?. Can I infer that it does not work
because you did not mention that it does? Would you go driving with
someone who is relying on this?

Mark S. Probert
Long Island, New York



From: msprob...(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: Too Many Side Effects
Date: 1997/01/02
Message-ID: <19970102143001.JAA13569(a)ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 207379985
references: <5afra0$kko(a)opengovt.open.org>
organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
x-admin: n...(a)aol.com


In article <5afra0$...@opengovt.open.org>, rex...(a)open.org writes:

>As my girlfriend's eight year old was diagnosed with ADHD at age five,
>I have been very interesten in learning as much as possible about the
>disease. I began following the discussions in this group since I
>learned of its existence just over a year over a year ago. When we
>first learned of the diagnosis, we, as have many others, became
>concerned about having him take a mood-altering drug with many side
>effects. While Ritalin and other amphetamines work well for many
>people diagnosed with ADHD, the side effects are very undesirable.

You have not read the group at all. Why do you feel it necessary to lie
like you do? Shame on you.

Any email only response to this message will be made public. This message
has been posted and mailed.

Mark S. Probert
Long Island, New York



Discussion subject changed to "Ranting and Raving" by msprob...(a)aol.com





Discussion subject changed to "RX-FART" by msprob...(a)aol.com


From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)



Subject: Re: PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS?
Date: 1996/04/26
Message-ID: <4lqigq$47j(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 151559616
sender: r...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <4lntle$1mv(a)news.xmission.com>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher


In article <4lntle$...@news.xmission.com>, rgarr...(a)xmission.com writes:

>Just because I drive a Chevrolet doesn't mean I think like every other
>person who drives a Chevrolet.
>
>
True for us Chevy owners, but BMW owners all do think alike. All of
today's BMWs look alike, except for size.

Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York




From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)
Subject: Re: PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS?
Date: 1996/03/02
Message-ID: <4harau$s1m(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 141869140
sender: r...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <4h9vfn$9cm(a)iac2.ltec.net>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher

In article <4h9vfn$...@iac2.ltec.net>, Sharon O'Neil <so40...(a)ltec.net>
writes:

>I also wore one for 12 years and think they're a great idea. I
>currently teach in the public school system. I don't think that it
>is an issue of self-expression at all. When I was younger, my
>public school friends were not wearing shirts that exposed their
>navels or t-shirts with obscene messages on them. Kids need and
>want limits.

When I was in school, we were required to wear a shirt with collar, tie,
and slacks. The young ladies had to choose between dresses or a skirt and
blouse. I would think that this is enough of a "uniform".

My 12 year old is on a school team. For away games, they must wear a shirt
and tie and either a jacket or sweater. On these days, he seems to be a
more peaceful kid.
================

Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...(a)aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

I have no children, Sistah Jan.

As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!


Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.



Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...(a)aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's pretty
clear
who the coward is.

Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...(a)aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:57:50 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.

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From: aloysio...(a)aol.com (AloysiousX)
Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
Date: 06 Jan 2004 17:54:38 GMT
References: <19faaec.0401060908.68a7...(a)posting.google.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution
Message-ID: 20040106125438.01826.00002...(a)mb-m18.aol.com



> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard
> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but I
> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
> Mark Probert markprobert1...(a)hotmail.com AloysiousX

From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)
Subject: Re: lying ADD stepson
Date: 1996/05/08
Message-ID: <4mr0jm$p36(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 153807633
sender: r...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <3190C016.342(a)emeraldis.com>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: alt.support.step-parents


In article <3190C016....(a)emeraldis.com>, Timbo <ri...(a)emeraldis.com>
writes:

>I have a 12 year old stepson who has a problem with lying. He will lie
about
>anything. He constantly lies about not having homework, and has no
interest
>in school. Any time he does something wrong, he tells one lie after
another
>to keep himself out of trouble. We tell him that we all make mistakes and

>occasionlly lie, but to continually tell one lie after another is only
going
>to get in more trouble. Usually his punishment is being grounded are
having
>priveledges taken away

Sounds like my 12 year old. We had the same problems. We backed off on the
punishment about a year ago and instituted specific rewards for
truthfulness. We also lessened the amount of punishment and deprivation.
Instead of giving him a chance to say he has no homework, the school faxes
me a copy of his HW list daily. Things have gotten better.

Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York

From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)
Subject: Re: **Need fast CASH? Here it is!**
Date: 1996/09/28
Message-ID: <52j2ku$561(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 185820786
sender: r...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <324B1FB9.1E80(a)netrover.com>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: alt.stupidity


In article <324B1FB9.1...(a)netrover.com>, Pringles <pring...(a)netrover.com>
writes:

>THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I
>get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of
>$23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!!

I sent a copy of your message to the IRS and asked them to collect back
taxes and send me the 10% bounty. They'll then send the message to the
USPS as yours is an illegal pyramid scheme and will get you 5 years and
$10,000 in fines. AND they take your internet access away!



Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York

From: msprob...(a)aol.com (MSProbert)
Subject: Re: Beginning Babysitter
Date: 1996/04/22
Message-ID: <4lgasn$fvn(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 150814229
sender: r...(a)newsbf02.news.aol.com
references: <1996Apr21.235647.6823(a)news.iup.edu>
organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
newsgroups: alt.parenting.solutions

In article <1996Apr21.235647.6...(a)news.iup.edu>, b...(a)grove.iup.edu
(Matthew R. St. John) writes:

>I have a question for you. I am a college student Ealy Childhood
education
>major. I did not discover my love for children until right before I
entered
>collegeso I did not do a lot of babysitting in my teen years. But now I
am
>looking to do that to help with getting experience with young children.
But
>how do I get started being that I do not have a lot of refrences, one to
be
>precise. So what should I do to get the ball rolling. Any suggestions
would
>be welcome.

If you really want to try something really hard, and really rewarding,
contact the local United Cerebral Palsy center and ask them for a list of
respite programs, and where you can get some training in working with
multiply handicapped children. Then become a respite worker (most areas
have a shortage). Pays better than babysitting in more ways than one.
Respite workers provide time off for parents of severely disabled
children.

Father of Josh-12-ADHD and Noah-7-CP.

Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York


From: Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. on 27 Jul 2008 02:07
On Jul 24, 7:15 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> =================
> And--you are not Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY.
> Neither are you Mark S Probert, Long Island, NY
> And you have no children.
> And you are not Mark Probert.
> And--Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the
> breast
> implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
> Sistah Ilena mentioned him.
>
> And, you never posted as AloysiousX.
> And, you never emailed me using that fake name.
> And you didn't use aol. It was your son computer.
> And--you were not disbarred.
> And--you read Torah everyday.
> And you use filthy langauage.
> And you repeatedly call names.
>
> Now--who is not only the utter loser, but proven liar beyond doubt?

That is true enough. I wish we had all day to list Proby's lies and
distortions, but we won't give in to Proby's Cult of Personality. We
have and will continue to post valid information about mental health
care and health care in general. Proby's nonsense is only a way to
distract the reader from the excellent information that we post about
ADD and other topics. We will not let Proby and his Cult misled the
public about these very important issues!!

From: Grassy Noll on 27 Jul 2008 04:33
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:

> That is true enough. I wish we had all day to list Proby's lies and
> distortions

Listing your name as *Jerry Kolnick* of Oregon, who impersonated a Dr.
RIchard X. Frager, altered a Washington Post article, and got booted
from numerous ISP's is all that needs to be listed.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. = FRAUD ARTIST

BTW... when you gonna shave that ugly beard?

You look like you're Charlie Manson's cell mate.
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