From: Lady Veteran on
Jenius-you have a barnacle too.

LV

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When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

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From: Daedalus on
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:26:05 +0000, The Master
<tardis(a)nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, jenuis wrote:
>
>> The Biggest Loser: �I am a whole new woman�
>> Ali Vincent, the first female winner of the hit show, shed half her weight
>
>So she's half the woman she used to be. Sorry, but she isn't woman enough
>any more...
>
>> Said her trainer, Jillian Michaels: �She�s a dream come true for me. I just
>> think she�s inspiration incarnate
>
>WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
>
>She is an INSPIRATION? How so? She lost weight, big deal... That's not
>inspirational.

Do you speak for the whole human race on this judgment or just your
self?

>
>> But in her 20s, she saw that she �literally got fat five pounds at a time.�
>> She was prompted to do something about it when she started �not getting as
>> much affection.�
>
>So, she based her self worth on the input of other people. She went from
>the "hot chick" to a BBW, and lost the affection of perfect strangers who
>don't care about her anyhow. That's losing weight for them, not for her.
>
>What she did is the FURTHEST thing from inspirational she could have
>possibly done!
>
>> She teamed with Michaels upon her return to the show. Michaels described
>> their workouts as �beatings � eight hours a day. Sometimes 10 toward the
>> end.�
>
>8 and 10 hours a day workouts? How is she going to maintain when she has
>to go back to work? 8 hours working, 8 hours sleep, 8 hours working out.
>That's already 24 hours, and you still have driving to work, eating,
>getting ready, etc...
>
>> And Vincent was in for the long haul.
>
>Unless she can bend the laws of time, she's already doomed. There is no
>way she can maintain her workout schedule. If that's ALL she wants to do
>in her free time, she could probably get in 4 hours, perhaps even 5.
>
>If that's what the fat bashers consider "normal" or "keeping in shape",
>I'd RATHER being obese. Sorry, but that is NOT a better quality of life,
>period.
>
>> Vincent pocketed $250,000 for her losing ways. After taking a red-eye
>> flight from California to New York, one of the first things she saw was a
>> copy of USA Today with a �Got Milk?� ad featuring her chiseled self.
>
>$250,000 prize money, endorsements? Ok, I stand corrected. If she plays
>her cards right, she could save enough money to not have to work again.
>That would free up the time for her to continue 8 hour a day workouts.
>But again, 8 frickin hours a day? Again, I'd rather be fat.
>
>> Vincent hopes her dramatic weight loss will put her in a better position to
>> achieve her goal of becoming a platform artist for a large corporation.
>
>And there go her 8 hour workouts again...

It's pretty pathetic to watch you bitterly criticize someone who made
a choice about how they wanted to be and succeeded, while spending so
much time on this group sanctimonoiusly defending your lifestyle
choice and your right to make it.

Pethetic and very telling.

Jade

From: The Master on
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Daedalus wrote:

>>> Said her trainer, Jillian Michaels: “She’s a dream come true for me. I just
>>> think she’s inspiration incarnate
>>
>> She is an INSPIRATION? How so? She lost weight, big deal... That's not
>> inspirational.
>
> Do you speak for the whole human race on this judgment or just your
> self?

I speak with as much pseudo-authority as Jillian Michaels. I just fail to
see how that is in any way inspirational.

>>> Vincent hopes her dramatic weight loss will put her in a better position to
>>> achieve her goal of becoming a platform artist for a large corporation.
>>
>> And there go her 8 hour workouts again...
>
> It's pretty pathetic to watch you bitterly criticize someone who made
> a choice about how they wanted to be and succeeded, while spending so
> much time on this group sanctimonoiusly defending your lifestyle
> choice and your right to make it.

I bitterly criticize saying that is inspirational, because I fail to see
how it is in any way. She lost weight, because she didn't feel the
unwarranted affection of perfect strangers. If that is how she wants to
define her self worth, more power to her. But it's NOT inspirational.

> Pethetic and very telling.

Actually, her reasons for losing weight ARE pathetic and very telling.
Good call...