Low-Carb Diet causes Kidney Failure/Renal Failure and will kill you.
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From: Scott W on 9 Aug 2008 02:21 On Aug 6, 8:03 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...(a)this.time> wrote: > Many PRO-Low Carbers like to reproduce LIE about the lifestyle knowing > that they are promoting a diet which is highly likely to KILL YOU. > Low-Carb reminds me of the Nazi Doctors in the 1930s-1940s who did > human testing knowing the tests would kill many patients. > > LOW-CARB WILL INCREASE your chances of getting LARGE PAINFUL KIDNEY > STONES...Low-Carb has a harsh effect on humans and should be avoided > at all costs. > > Try counting calories...It's simple and it works every time all the > time. > > Many thousands of people in the U.S. have died as a direct result of > LOW-CARB dieting and Doctors will try to talk you out of Low Carb > diets. > > Also, Low Carb diets tend to fail because people lose interest in the > limited type of foods within 6 months time. > > Stay away from a Low Carb diet unless you WANT kidney stones. > > LOW CARB diets also do great damage to the kidneys themselves. Many > people report kidney damage after Low Carb dieting. Many of these > people have to go on dialysis machines for LIFE after dieting with Low > Carb. > > As for benefits, look no farther then the Dr. of low carb, Robert > Atkins himself. WHEN HE DIED they did an autopsy on his body. The > report noted he had VERY clogged arteries and was in overall poor > health due to eating fatty foods more often than usual. > > What people on Low Carb will HIDE from people asking questions is that > the Low Carb diet is VERY HIGH IN FATS. So high in fats that no > cardiologist has ever recommended the Low Carb diet to anyone. > > Save your Kidneys and AVOID Low Carb fad diets. > > Counting calories is something most real doctors recommend to patient > they want to stay alive. > > Instead of LOW CARB they should call it LOL-CARB because low carb is > nothing more than a joke.. > > Counting calories is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to lose weight and keep > if off without any life-threatening side-effects. > > Unless you're suicidal you need to stay away from Low Carb fake fad > diets that will only kill you very fast and hurt you long before you > ever die. > > The Military as a standard way to extract information from prisoners > will use a Low Carb diet because of the PAIN associated with Kidney > Stones. Why would you torture yourself with a low carb diet? > > Unless you want to die or die from a very painful death then you > should STAY AWAY FROM A LOW CARB DEADLY DIET! > > Counting calories works and will not hurt you. I have studied this issue a lot and wonder where you are getting you data, can you site a reference? A high protein diet might be bad for someone who already had weak kidneys, for someone with two healthy kidneys I should not be a problem, or do you have a study that shows otherwise? The biggest risk for kidneys is not high protein but diabetes, which comes from being overweight and eating too many simple carbs. Scott
From: Matti Narkia on 9 Aug 2008 11:51 Scott W wrote: > > A high protein diet might be bad for someone who already had weak > kidneys, for someone with two healthy kidneys I should not be a > problem, or do you have a study that shows otherwise? > > The biggest risk for kidneys is not high protein but diabetes, which > comes from being overweight and eating too many simple carbs. > > All dietary proteins are not equal. Fish protein seems to have some interesting properties: it may improve insulin sensitivity, lower the risk of microalbuminuria and thus the risk of kidney damage in type 1 diabetes, improve lipid profile, and is perhaps the best protein for satiety. Below some references: Ouellet V, Marois J, Weisnagel SJ, Jacques H. Dietary cod protein improves insulin sensitivity in insulin-resistant men and women: a randomized controlled trial. Diabetes Care. 2007 Nov;30(11):2816-21. Epub 2007 Aug 6. PMID: 17682120 <http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/11/2816> "CONCLUSIONS�Dietary cod protein improves insulin sensitivity in insulin-resistant individuals and thus could contribute to prevention of type 2 diabetes by reducing the metabolic complications related to insulin resistance." Mollsten AV, Dahlquist GG, Stattin EL, Rudberg S. Higher intakes of fish protein are related to a lower risk of microalbuminuria in young Swedish type 1 diabetic patients. Diabetes Care. 2001 May;24(5):805-10. PMID: 11347734 <http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/24/5/805> "CONCLUSIONS�Total protein and fat intake were not associated with the presence of microalbuminuria, but a diet including a high amount of fish protein seemed to lessen the risk." Tremblay F, Lavigne C, Jacques H, Marette A. Dietary cod protein restores insulin-induced activation of phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase/Akt and GLUT4 translocation to the T-tubules in skeletal muscle of high-fat-fed obese rats. Diabetes. 2003 Jan;52(1):29-37. PMID: 12502490 <http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/52/1/29> "Taken together, these results show that dietary cod protein is a natural insulin-sensitizing agent that appears to prevent obesity-linked muscle insulin resistance by normalizing insulin activation of the PI 3-kinase/Akt pathway and by selectively improving GLUT4 translocation to the T-tubules." Lavigne C, Tremblay F, Asselin G, Jacques H, Marette A. Prevention of skeletal muscle insulin resistance by dietary cod protein in high fat-fed rats. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Jul;281(1):E62-71. PMID: 11404223 <http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/281/1/E62> "These data demonstrate that feeding cod protein prevents obesity-induced muscle insulin resistance in high fat-fed obese rats at least in part through a direct action of amino acids on insulin-stimulated glucose uptake in skeletal muscle cells. " Lavigne C, Marette A, Jacques H. Cod and soy proteins compared with casein improve glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity in rats. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2000 Mar;278(3):E491-500. PMID: 10710504 <http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/278/3/E491> "In conclusion, the metabolic responses to three common dietary proteins indicate that cod and soy proteins, when compared with casein, improve fasting glucose tolerance and peripheral insulin sensitivity in rats. " Wergedahl H, Liaset B, Gudbrandsen OA, Lied E, Espe M, Muna Z, Mork S, Berge RK. Fish protein hydrolysate reduces plasma total cholesterol, increases the proportion of HDL cholesterol, and lowers acyl-CoA:cholesterol acyltransferase activity in liver of Zucker rats. J Nutr. 2004 Jun;134(6):1320-7. PMID: 15173391 <http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/6/1320> "Our results indicate that the effects of FPH and soy protein on fatty acid metabolism are similar in many respects, but the hypocholesterolemic effects of FPH and soy protein appear to be due to different mechanisms. FPH may have a role as a cardioprotective nutrient." Uhe AM, Collier GR, O'Dea K. A comparison of the effects of beef, chicken and fish protein on satiety and amino acid profiles in lean male subjects. J Nutr. 1992 Mar;122(3):467-72. PMID: 1542005 <http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/3/467> <http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/467> (free full text PDF) "We compared postprandial satiety and plasma amino acid, insulin, and glucose concentrations in six lean male subjects after the ingestion of three types of protein (beef, chicken and fish). Satiety was greater after the fish meal (P < 0.01)." -- Matti Narkia http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/Nutrition
From: DB on 9 Aug 2008 12:32 "Always Learning" <noPublicEmail(a)this.time> wrote in > Except for the fact that harm from any doctor ON PURPOSE intended is > indeed EXACTLY like that of Nazi Doctors in death camps. > > How this escapes you or anyone else is amazing. What's really amazing is how you and others of non low carb life style continue posting in a low carb news group! LOL What's the point of you being here other than looking for a fight? why not frequent other diet groups thatsupport your theories?
From: Susan on 22 Aug 2008 16:07 x-no-archive: yes Always Learning wrote: > A saw a post once that said drain cleaner would unclog your ateries so > it must be true. > You should go try it and get back to us. Susan
From: Susan on 22 Aug 2008 17:22
x-no-archive: yes Always Learning wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:07:00 -0400, Susan <nevermind(a)nomail.com> wrote > this stuff here : > > >>x-no-archive: yes >> >>Always Learning wrote: >> >> >>>A saw a post once that said drain cleaner would unclog your ateries so >>>it must be true. >>> >> >> >>You should go try it and get back to us. >> >>Susan > > > I am a changed man and realize how very wrong I have been with my > posts in this newsgroup. > please forgive me > spanish: "Lo siento por favor me perdone" > > thank you > I don't believe you. I don't need an apology either. If you don't just go away, I and others here will just kill file you and stay on topic. You're an amateur. Susan |