From: Kaz Kylheku on
On 2008-08-07, DB <DeeBee(a)netscape.net> wrote:
> You know what they say about a little information in the hands of a budding
> expert! LOL
>
> Google makes them all experts!

On both sides. There is Susan for instance, who doesn't understand so much
as 10% of what she regurgitates.
From: trigonometry1972 on
On Aug 6, 11:03 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...(a)this.time> wrote:
> Many PRO-Low Carbers like to reproduce LIE about the lifestyle knowing
> that they are promoting a diet which is highly likely to KILL YOU.
> Low-Carb reminds me of the Nazi Doctors in the 1930s-1940s who did
> human testing knowing the tests would kill many patients.
>
> LOW-CARB WILL INCREASE your chances of getting LARGE PAINFUL KIDNEY
> STONES...Low-Carb has a harsh effect on humans and should be avoided
> at all costs.
>
> Try counting calories...It's simple and it works every time all the
> time.
>
> Many thousands of people in the U.S. have died as a direct result of
> LOW-CARB dieting and Doctors will try to talk you out of Low Carb
> diets.
>
> Also, Low Carb diets tend to fail because people lose interest in the
> limited type of foods within 6 months time.
>
> Stay away from a Low Carb diet unless you WANT kidney stones.
>
> LOW CARB diets also do great damage to the kidneys themselves. Many
> people report kidney damage after Low Carb dieting. Many of these
> people have to go on dialysis machines for LIFE after dieting with Low
> Carb.
>
> As for benefits, look no farther then the Dr. of low carb, Robert
> Atkins himself. WHEN HE DIED they did an autopsy on his body. The
> report noted he had VERY clogged arteries and was in overall poor
> health due to eating fatty foods more often than usual.
>
> What people on Low Carb will HIDE from people asking questions is that
> the Low Carb diet is VERY HIGH IN FATS. So high in fats that no
> cardiologist has ever recommended the Low Carb diet to anyone.
>
> Save your Kidneys and AVOID Low Carb fad diets.
>
> Counting calories is something most real doctors recommend to patient
> they want to stay alive.
>
> Instead of LOW CARB they should call it LOL-CARB because low carb is
> nothing more than a joke..
>
> Counting calories is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to lose weight and keep
> if off without any life-threatening side-effects.
>
> Unless you're suicidal you need to stay away from Low Carb fake fad
> diets that will only kill you very fast and hurt you long before you
> ever die.
>
> The Military as a standard way to extract information from prisoners
> will use a Low Carb diet because of the PAIN associated with Kidney
> Stones. Why would you torture yourself with a low carb diet?
>
> Unless you want to die or die from a very painful death then you
> should STAY AWAY FROM A LOW CARB DEADLY DIET!
>
> Counting calories works and will not hurt you.

It seems you've been proven WRONG again.

If I wanted to torment someone, I'd feed them rabbit and only rabbit.
I am using high fat diet and high protein diet to lose weight, control
blood glucose and control blood lipids.

"Always Learning" do us all a favor and pig out on low fat ice cream
for
the next five years.
From: thew1tc4d0ct0r on
On Aug 8, 9:32 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 11:03 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...(a)this.time> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Many PRO-Low Carbers like to reproduce LIE about the lifestyle knowing
> > that they are promoting a diet which is highly likely to KILL YOU.
> > Low-Carb reminds me of the Nazi Doctors in the 1930s-1940s who did
> > human testing knowing the tests would kill many patients.
>
> > LOW-CARB WILL INCREASE your chances of getting LARGE PAINFUL KIDNEY
> > STONES...Low-Carb has a harsh effect on humans and should be avoided
> > at all costs.
>
> > Try counting calories...It's simple and it works every time all the
> > time.
>
> > Many thousands of people in the U.S. have died as a direct result of
> > LOW-CARB dieting and Doctors will try to talk you out of Low Carb
> > diets.
>
> > Also, Low Carb diets tend to fail because people lose interest in the
> > limited type of foods within 6 months time.
>
> > Stay away from a Low Carb diet unless you WANT kidney stones.
>
> > LOW CARB diets also do great damage to the kidneys themselves. Many
> > people report kidney damage after Low Carb dieting. Many of these
> > people have to go on dialysis machines for LIFE after dieting with Low
> > Carb.
>
> > As for benefits, look no farther then the Dr. of low carb, Robert
> > Atkins himself. WHEN HE DIED they did an autopsy on his body. The
> > report noted he had VERY clogged arteries and was in overall poor
> > health due to eating fatty foods more often than usual.
>
> > What people on Low Carb will HIDE from people asking questions is that
> > the Low Carb diet is VERY HIGH IN FATS. So high in fats that no
> > cardiologist has ever recommended the Low Carb diet to anyone.
>
> > Save your Kidneys and AVOID Low Carb fad diets.
>
> > Counting calories is something most real doctors recommend to patient
> > they want to stay alive.
>
> > Instead of LOW CARB they should call it LOL-CARB because low carb is
> > nothing more than a joke..
>
> > Counting calories is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to lose weight and keep
> > if off without any life-threatening side-effects.
>
> > Unless you're suicidal you need to stay away from Low Carb fake fad
> > diets that will only kill you very fast and hurt you long before you
> > ever die.
>
> > The Military as a standard way to extract information from prisoners
> > will use a Low Carb diet because of the PAIN associated with Kidney
> > Stones. Why would you torture yourself with a low carb diet?
>
> > Unless you want to die or die from a very painful death then you
> > should STAY AWAY FROM A LOW CARB DEADLY DIET!
>
> > Counting calories works and will not hurt you.
>
> It seems you've been proven WRONG again.
>
> If I wanted to torment someone, I'd feed them rabbit and only rabbit.
> I am using high fat diet and high protein diet to lose weight, control
> blood glucose and control blood lipids.
>
> "Always Learning" do us all a favor and pig out on low fat ice cream
> for
> the next five years.

Hmm...just by someone providing links to sites advocating a low carb
diet proves nothing. I can give you links to sites proclaiming
exactly the opposite e.g. http://www.sideroad.com/Weight_Loss/low-carb-diet-danger.html

Have a look at the references the guy quotes at the bottom of his
article.

If people want to lose weight then they need to be sensible. Using
the Atkins diet for a short period of time will not be dangerous. In
fact the diet now advocated by the people at Atkins is far more along
the lines of main stream science than it was in its infancy. I wonder
why?

http://theapothecary.890m.com
From: trader4 on
On Aug 8, 7:31 am, thew1tc4d0ct0r <thew1tc4d0c...(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 8, 9:32 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 11:03 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...(a)this.time> wrote:
>
> > > Many PRO-Low Carbers like to reproduce LIE about the lifestyle knowing
> > > that they are promoting a diet which is highly likely to KILL YOU.
> > > Low-Carb reminds me of the Nazi Doctors in the 1930s-1940s who did
> > > human testing knowing the tests would kill many patients.
>
> > > LOW-CARB WILL INCREASE your chances of getting LARGE PAINFUL KIDNEY
> > > STONES...Low-Carb has a harsh effect on humans and should be avoided
> > > at all costs.
>
> > > Try counting calories...It's simple and it works every time all the
> > > time.
>
> > > Many thousands of people in the U.S. have died as a direct result of
> > > LOW-CARB dieting and Doctors will try to talk you out of Low Carb
> > > diets.
>
> > > Also, Low Carb diets tend to fail because people lose interest in the
> > > limited type of foods within 6 months time.
>
> > > Stay away from a Low Carb diet unless you WANT kidney stones.
>
> > > LOW CARB diets also do great damage to the kidneys themselves. Many
> > > people report kidney damage after Low Carb dieting. Many of these
> > > people have to go on dialysis machines for LIFE after dieting with Low
> > > Carb.
>
> > > As for benefits, look no farther then the Dr. of low carb, Robert
> > > Atkins himself. WHEN HE DIED they did an autopsy on his body. The
> > > report noted he had VERY clogged arteries and was in overall poor
> > > health due to eating fatty foods more often than usual.
>
> > > What people on Low Carb will HIDE from people asking questions is that
> > > the Low Carb diet is VERY HIGH IN FATS. So high in fats that no
> > > cardiologist has ever recommended the Low Carb diet to anyone.
>
> > > Save your Kidneys and AVOID Low Carb fad diets.
>
> > > Counting calories is something most real doctors recommend to patient
> > > they want to stay alive.
>
> > > Instead of LOW CARB they should call it LOL-CARB because low carb is
> > > nothing more than a joke..
>
> > > Counting calories is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to lose weight and keep
> > > if off without any life-threatening side-effects.
>
> > > Unless you're suicidal you need to stay away from Low Carb fake fad
> > > diets that will only kill you very fast and hurt you long before you
> > > ever die.
>
> > > The Military as a standard way to extract information from prisoners
> > > will use a Low Carb diet because of the PAIN associated with Kidney
> > > Stones. Why would you torture yourself with a low carb diet?
>
> > > Unless you want to die or die from a very painful death then you
> > > should STAY AWAY FROM A LOW CARB DEADLY DIET!
>
> > > Counting calories works and will not hurt you.
>
> > It seems you've been proven WRONG again.
>
> > If I wanted to torment someone, I'd feed them rabbit and only rabbit.
> > I am using high fat diet and high protein diet to lose weight, control
> > blood glucose and control blood lipids.
>
> > "Always Learning" do us all a favor and pig out on low fat ice cream
> > for
> > the next five years.
>
> Hmm...just by someone providing links to sites advocating a low carb
> diet proves nothing.  I can give you links to sites proclaiming
> exactly the opposite e.g.http://www.sideroad.com/Weight_Loss/low-carb-diet-danger.html
>
> Have a look at the references the guy quotes at the bottom of his
> article.
>
> If people want to lose weight then they need to be sensible.  Using
> the Atkins diet for a short period of time will not be dangerous.

And another poster who obviously doesn't understant what Atkins is all
about. Your faint praise implies that there is something wrong with
doing Atkins long term. Another misguided poster who thinks Atkins
is some short term diet, to just lose weight. In fact, it's a life
long plan.






 In
> fact the diet now advocated by the people at Atkins is far more along
> the lines of main stream science than it was in its infancy.  I wonder
> why?
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

From: trader4 on
On Aug 8, 7:31 am, thew1tc4d0ct0r <thew1tc4d0c...(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 8, 9:32 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 11:03 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...(a)this.time> wrote:
>
> > > Many PRO-Low Carbers like to reproduce LIE about the lifestyle knowing
> > > that they are promoting a diet which is highly likely to KILL YOU.
> > > Low-Carb reminds me of the Nazi Doctors in the 1930s-1940s who did
> > > human testing knowing the tests would kill many patients.
>
> > > LOW-CARB WILL INCREASE your chances of getting LARGE PAINFUL KIDNEY
> > > STONES...Low-Carb has a harsh effect on humans and should be avoided
> > > at all costs.
>
> > > Try counting calories...It's simple and it works every time all the
> > > time.
>
> > > Many thousands of people in the U.S. have died as a direct result of
> > > LOW-CARB dieting and Doctors will try to talk you out of Low Carb
> > > diets.
>
> > > Also, Low Carb diets tend to fail because people lose interest in the
> > > limited type of foods within 6 months time.
>
> > > Stay away from a Low Carb diet unless you WANT kidney stones.
>
> > > LOW CARB diets also do great damage to the kidneys themselves. Many
> > > people report kidney damage after Low Carb dieting. Many of these
> > > people have to go on dialysis machines for LIFE after dieting with Low
> > > Carb.
>
> > > As for benefits, look no farther then the Dr. of low carb, Robert
> > > Atkins himself. WHEN HE DIED they did an autopsy on his body. The
> > > report noted he had VERY clogged arteries and was in overall poor
> > > health due to eating fatty foods more often than usual.
>
> > > What people on Low Carb will HIDE from people asking questions is that
> > > the Low Carb diet is VERY HIGH IN FATS. So high in fats that no
> > > cardiologist has ever recommended the Low Carb diet to anyone.
>
> > > Save your Kidneys and AVOID Low Carb fad diets.
>
> > > Counting calories is something most real doctors recommend to patient
> > > they want to stay alive.
>
> > > Instead of LOW CARB they should call it LOL-CARB because low carb is
> > > nothing more than a joke..
>
> > > Counting calories is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to lose weight and keep
> > > if off without any life-threatening side-effects.
>
> > > Unless you're suicidal you need to stay away from Low Carb fake fad
> > > diets that will only kill you very fast and hurt you long before you
> > > ever die.
>
> > > The Military as a standard way to extract information from prisoners
> > > will use a Low Carb diet because of the PAIN associated with Kidney
> > > Stones. Why would you torture yourself with a low carb diet?
>
> > > Unless you want to die or die from a very painful death then you
> > > should STAY AWAY FROM A LOW CARB DEADLY DIET!
>
> > > Counting calories works and will not hurt you.
>
> > It seems you've been proven WRONG again.
>
> > If I wanted to torment someone, I'd feed them rabbit and only rabbit.
> > I am using high fat diet and high protein diet to lose weight, control
> > blood glucose and control blood lipids.
>
> > "Always Learning" do us all a favor and pig out on low fat ice cream
> > for
> > the next five years.
>
> Hmm...just by someone providing links to sites advocating a low carb
> diet proves nothing.  I can give you links to sites proclaiming
> exactly the opposite e.g.http://www.sideroad.com/Weight_Loss/low-carb-diet-danger.html
>
> Have a look at the references the guy quotes at the bottom of his
> article.
>
> If people want to lose weight then they need to be sensible.  Using
> the Atkins diet for a short period of time will not be dangerous.  In
> fact the diet now advocated by the people at Atkins is far more along
> the lines of main stream science than it was in its infancy.  I wonder
> why?


Because main stream science has finally started to accept in some
small measure that Atkins was right. With studies showing it works,
actually improves lipid levels, and is the most effective way to lose
weight, finally some in the medical community are finally recognizing
the truth. Atkins didn't change, the rest of the world finally
opened their eyes a bit.




>
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>
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