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From: Paul L on 7 Aug 2008 17:26 "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cafk94hgbid0iols29049fq9efbl6onuk3(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:33:31 -0500, "Barbara H" > <bhenderson26(a)cox.net> wrote: > >>Is there an easy way to calculate the number of carbs one should consume? >>Other than testing? > > No - testing is the only way to be sure. ... because we are all so different in our responses to the exact same foods. ... and because we ourselves get different responses to the exact same foods eaten at different times of the day. this stuff is just nuts, I tell ya :-) But, if we test enough, we learn more about our own situations and we can detect a very predictable pattern of responses. cheers Paul > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > -- > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com > DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)
From: Barbara H on 7 Aug 2008 17:38 "Trinkwasser" <spam(a)devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message news:emmm941f7c46rakb0p8dqcvfef4t123q82(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:57:50 -0700, "Michelle C" <bookbug_35(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>Just to add to Susan's terrific explanation in regard to >>triglycerides~when >>you ingest excess carbs, your body converts them to triglycerides. So >>although triglyceride is a fat, it's made from carbs. That's what makes >>triglycerides a very good indicator on whether or not you are eating too >>many carbs. If triglycerides are high your carb intake is too >>high--overall >>or at any one time. > > Yes and they also seem to be particularly easy to change, they go up > and down like a yoyo depending on carb input at the time. > > Trigs/HDL ratio needs to be under 3 so you're not far off! > > That relates both to degree of insulin resistance, and to > cardiovascular danger more closely than the total or LDL levels. > >>Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be knowledge that doctor's share with >>patients. > > True. Yes, I recall reading something here about that ratio. Maybe from you and I think even Quentin?? I also remember reading something about "fluffy ducks" in Quentin's book. Anyway, I will add it to my tracking worksheets. I think I was hoping to avoid deep scientific thought ... at least for me. It's not my strong suit. I am kind of a numbers person so maybe I can learn the basics of how the numbers happen then play with my charts. :-) Knowing now that 3% is a good target I think I'll ask the doc in Oct. what she thinks mine should be. She has a general practice but has told me she has over 450 patients with diabetes. Barbara H T2, dx 7/06, metformin 1500, byetta 5x2, temporary A1c 6.4
From: DonnaB shallotpeel on 7 Aug 2008 18:14 On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:26:39 -0600, in <3YCdna-mm8Xi9QbVnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d(a)comcast.com> "Paul L" <kbtrans(a)qwest.net> wrote: > But, if we test enough, we learn more about our own situations and > we can detect a very predictable pattern of responses. Until something changes. <G> -- DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08
From: Alan S on 8 Aug 2008 02:12 On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:38:53 -0500, "Barbara H" <bhenderson26(a)cox.net> wrote: >Yes, I recall reading something here about that ratio. Maybe from you and I >think even Quentin?? I also remember reading something about "fluffy ducks" >in Quentin's book. Anyway, I will add it to my tracking worksheets. I >think I was hoping to avoid deep scientific thought ... at least for me. >It's not my strong suit. I am kind of a numbers person so maybe I can >learn the basics of how the numbers happen then play with my charts. :-) > >Knowing now that 3% is a good target I think I'll ask the doc in Oct. what >she thinks mine should be. She has a general practice but has told me she >has over 450 patients with diabetes. Try this: Ratio of triglycerides to HDL cholesterol is an indicator of LDL particle size in patients with type 2 diabetes and normal HDL cholesterol levels http://tinyurl.com/b9e8t or http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/11/1679?maxtoshow=&HITS=&hits=&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=triglycerides+to+HDL&andorexactfulltext=phrase&searchid=1116113854912_19693&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=1 and this is interesting, but related to IR: Relationship between Serum Lipoprotein Ratios and Insulin Resistance in Obesity http://tinyurl.com/2oql67 or http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/abstract/50/12/2316?maxtoshow=&HITS=&hits=&RESULTFORMAT=1&andorexacttitle=and&andorexacttitleabs=and&fulltext=triglycerides+to+HDL&andorexactfulltext=phrase&searchid=1116114422846_19843&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=10&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=1 Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)
From: bgl on 8 Aug 2008 09:35
> "Trinkwasser" <spam(a)devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:emmm941f7c46rakb0p8dqcvfef4t123q82(a)4ax.com... >> >> Trigs/HDL ratio needs to be under 3 so you're not far off! >> ... "Barbara H" <bhenderson26(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:PXJmk.4345$i15.2481(a)newsfe01.iad... > > Knowing now that 3% is a good target .... > That 3 isn't a % it's a ratio. bj |