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From: Colin Hammond on 31 Oct 2005 02:13
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Type-2 Diabetes ? the Expected Adaption to Over nutrition

Sixteen million people in the United States have type-2 diabetes, which
shortens lifespan by up to 15 years, leads to almost 300,000 deaths
annually, and costs about $100 billion annually. Since 1980 the
incidence has increased by
30%. Born in the year 2000, your male child?s lifetime risk of
developing type-2 diabetes is nearly 33%, and a female?s risk will be
39% when following the Western diet.1 Worldwide, 135 million people
have type-2 diabetes and by 2025 the incidence is predicted to reach 300
million people worldwide.

This form of diabetes was once referred to as ?adult-type diabetes?
because in the past, type-2 diabetes was rare in children. However, over
the last two decades, there has been a 10-fold increase in incidence of
type-2 diabetes in children, because of the rapidly growing numbers with
obesity from an escalating exposure to rich foods, compounded by a lack
of exercise.2

The general state of poor health of Westerners, as reflected by
diabetes, escalates unchecked for 3 important reasons:

1) This growing epidemic of type-2 diabetes and obesity is fueled by
huge profits generated by a food industry super-sizing everything by
stuffing their irresistible morsels with fat, sugar, refined flour, and
calories.

2) Medical doctors continue to prescribe remedies that have never cured
a single case of diabetes. Furthermore, the usual ?poly-pharmacology?
of medications they rely upon promotes weight gain, heart disease, and
hypoglycemia, along with other serious adverse effects. From all these
expensive medications there is a small reduction in complications, such
as kidney and eye damage, which still fails to offset the tremendous
harm done by their efforts.

3) The American Dietetic Association has remained steadfast in their
recommendation of a portion-controlled version of the Western (American)
diet ? an impossible diet to follow (because of its complex rules and
semi-starvation nature) ? made up of ingredients, like fat, sugars,
refined foods, and cholesterol, that caused the patients? problems in
the first place.

In 1927 Dr. E. P. Joslin, founder of the famous Joslin Diabetic Center
in Boston, suspected a high-fat, high-cholesterol diet might favor the
development of diabetes and its major complication, atherosclerosis.3
He prophetically wrote: ?I believe the chief cause of premature
atherosclerosis in diabetes, save for advancing age, is an excess of
fat, an excess of fat in the body (obesity), an excess of fat in the
diet, and an excess of fat in the blood. With an excess of fat diabetes
begins and from an excess of fat diabetics die, formerly of coma,
recently of atherosclerosis.? And now, 75 years after Joslin?s
farsighted message, diabetes is the fastest growing disease in the world.

Type-2 Diabetes: A Runaway Epidemic Caused by Rich Foods

The cause of this skyrocketing health tragedy is easily seen by
observing everyday people striving for the ?good life.?4-6 Feasting
from the king?s table brings on the diseases of royalty, like obesity,
gout, and diabetes. Worldwide, the incidence of type-2 diabetes
increases in direct proportion to the consumption of meat, dairy
products, sugars, fats, and calories by the residents. Type-2 diabetes
has taken the greatest toll on ?minority? populations brought to the
Western diet by migration to cities and giant industries providing cheap
fast food.

Native Americans, for example the Pima Indians of Arizona, introduced to
the Western diet over the past 75 years, are now afflicted so severely
that as many as one-half of them has diabetes.7 However, their genetic
cousins, the Tarahumara Indians of Mexico, following a diet consisting
of 90% corn and pinto beans (chili), and vegetables (like squash), are
free of type-2 diabetes ? as well as obesity and heart disease.8,9
Similar dramatic rises ? from immunity to epidemic proportions ? of
type-2 diabetes have been seen in other people like Africans,
African-Americans, Mexicans, Chinese, and Polynesians, as they adopt the
Western diet with enthusiasm.10-12 There are no exceptions to this
observation that when populations of people following a starch-based
diet (rice, corn, potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc.), switch to a diet of
rich foods ? meats, dairy products, added oils, and refined foods ? they
become overweight and diabetic, and develop heart disease, breast,
prostate and colon cancers, gallbladder disease, arthritis, multiple
sclerosis, and bowel problems. No exceptions!

Diabetes Is an Adaptive Response to Overnutrition


The malnutrition caused by the high-fat, low-fiber Western diet places
serious burdens on the body and requires it to make adaptions in order
to survive under adverse conditions. The calories consumed in excess of
our needs cause us to gain fat ? this is a natural, expected change.
Soon a point is reached when this accumulation becomes counterproductive
? a point when any further excess body weight is likely to cause serious
physical harm. When this hazardous excess is reached, the body puts
?the brakes on? in order to slow the rate of gain. This is accomplished
by a variety of changes that cause the hormone insulin to become less
potent. 13,14 In other words, our cells become resistant to the actions
of the fat-gaining hormone, insulin ? a state referred to as ?insulin
resistance.?



One of insulin?s primary jobs is to push fat into the fat cells ? thus
saving fat for the day when no food is available (which for Westerners
never comes). If it were not for the adaptive mechanisms which allow
for the development of ?insulin resistance,? people would commonly
expand until they became so large that they could not get out of bed or
fit through a doorway ? a very rare condition that does occur in
1000-pound sized people who need a forklift to move them to the
hospital. (They make headlines in the newspaper.)





One of insulin?s other important jobs is to let sugar into the body?s
cells ? with a state of ?insulin resistance? the sugar cannot get into
the cells easily ? so it rises in the blood. The hallmark of the
diagnosis of diabetes is an elevated blood sugar above normal (usually
normal is below 115 mg/dl fasting). With impotent insulin, the
calories of fat and sugar we consume cannot easily enter the cells; the
body is essentially starving itself from the inside in a desperate
attempt to compensate for the overfeeding coming from the outside. To
further reduce the burden of obesity, the body eliminates calories by
allowing sugar to spill over into the urine, like water falling over a
dam. At this stage sugar is found with a urine test ? another common
way to diagnosis diabetes. Most doctors and patients view the elevated
blood sugar as the enemy to be beaten down with medications ? the result
is a fat, sickly patient with a slightly lower blood sugar.



The Reason Medical Therapy Should Be Your Last Choice



Diabetic medications have never cured anyone of diabetes and actually
compound the patients? problems. The patient goes to the doctor, is
diagnosed with diabetes, placed on medication, and told to lose weight.
Unfortunately, these medications make insulin more effective, causing
more fat to be stored in the fat cells. The average initial weight gain
when diabetic medications are started is 8 to 20 pounds ? due to
partially counteracting the protective effects of ?insulin resistance.?
Thus the well-behaved patient takes the medications as directed, but
then gains weight, and as a result of the added weight his diabetes
becomes worse. The patient returns to the doctor, is given a firm
scolding for gaining weight, and then more medications are prescribed
because his sugars are even higher than before ? this additional
medication makes the patient even fatter and the diabetes more out of
control. The vicious cycle continues ? and the patient and doctor are
left guilt-ridden and confused about their obvious medical failure.
After all, they followed the pharmaceutical company?s instructions
exactly. Worse yet, the patients are not one bit healthier from all
this effort and expense.


More than 30 years ago, when I was in medical school, I remember doctors
arguing about the benefits from aggressive use of medication to make the
blood sugars lower, a practice referred to as ?tight control.? Ideally,
keeping the blood sugars close to normal makes sense, but in real life
more harm than good is done for type-2 diabetics. First of all, no
matter how hard the patient and the doctor work at their goal, the blood
sugar readings are all over the place ? one test shows 60 mg/dl and the
next 260 mg/dl. Soon it becomes obvious to the patient that the
short-term goal of ?normalizing? the blood sugar levels is impossible
using medications.


The next carrot held out is for long-term benefits: preventing
complications later in life. In truth, studies have shown there is some
benefit for the eyes and the kidneys with better control of blood sugar
(especially for type-1 diabetics).15-17 However, the major threat to the
life of a diabetic is from heart attacks and strokes ? diseases of the
large blood vessels. Intensive medical therapy using the most high-tech
drugs to lower blood sugars has failed to reduce the risk for, and
improve survival from, these two major killers. In fact, the medications
used to combat sugar will actually create more sickness and death from
heart disease.



Since the early 1970s every single edition of the Physician?s Desk
Reference, found in every doctor?s office, has carried this warning in
heavy back print for their diabetic medications: ?SPECIAL WARNING ON
INCREASED RISK OF CARDIOVASCULAR MORTALITY.? The most commonly
prescribed diabetic medications, known as sulfonylureas,* cause
fundamental changes in the function of cells that increase the risk of
heart attacks.18 These drugs, which are called ?antidiabetic agents? by
the pharmaceutical companies, have recently been shown to more than
double the risk of heart attacks and almost triple the risk of early
death in patients after an angioplasty.19 I never prescribe this type
of diabetic pills, and always ask my patients to stop them. All
diabetics should be actively looking for a better approach ? and so
should any doctor interested in his patients? welfare.




The Treatment of Type-2 Diabetes with a Low-Fat, Plant-Food Diet

Multiple studies dating as far back as the 1920s have shown the benefits
of a high-carbohydrate, low-fat diet in the treatment of type-2
diabetes.23 For example, studies from the University of Kentucky
Medical School reported as many as two-thirds of diabetics were able to
discontinue insulin and almost all stopped oral agents.24 A recent
thorough review of the use of a vegetarian diet in the treatment of
type-2 diabetes was published in the September 2003 issue of the
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. In this review article Dr. David
Jenkins reported on research showing improvements in blood sugars in
diabetics with 39% stopping insulin and 71% stopping diabetic pills
after three weeks of therapy.25 Relief of diabetic neuropathy pains,
reduced lipids (cholesterol and triglycerides), and weight loss have
also been reported with a low-fat, pure-vegetarian diet. Another recent
research paper has reported similar findings with a low-fat vegetarian
diet.26 Many of these people with type-2 diabetes are cured of their
disease within three weeks, and most will be cured of their diabetes
over time as they adhere to a low-fat, high carbohydrate diet, exercise,
and lose all of their excess body fat.

This same kind of diet (in large part because of the restriction of
animal protein) has been shown to dramatically improve the health of the
kidneys of diabetics (protein in the urine, a sign of diabetic kidney
damage, decreases and disappears).27,28 Research has also shown
diabetic damage found in the eyes (retinopathy) can be reversed with a
low-fat diet.29,30 It?s interesting how kidney and eye damage, the two
purported benefits from drug therapy, are actually better treated with
diet than with medications, at no cost and no side effects. A low-fat
vegetarian diet has also been shown to reverse heart disease
(atherosclerosis), the number one killer of diabetics.31 Many other
researchers have praised a low-fat vegetarian diet as the best approach
to prevent and treat most diseases that plague people in modern
societies, including people with diabetes.32-35 Possibly the most
important effect of this dietary approach (combined with exercise) is
the scientifically established fact that this is the easiest and most
effective way to lose weight permanently.36-39 Obesity is the underlying
cause of diabetes.40

Practical Steps to Cure Type-2 Diabetes


If you are one of the millions of diabetic patients facing a hopeless
future of worsening diabetes, obesity, loss of vision, kidney failure,
heart attacks, strokes, gangrene, and early death and disability ? even
though you have visited your doctors regularly, and taken your
medications faithfully ? then it is time to break this downhill spiral
by changing your diet and exercise program. At the same time ask your
doctor to provide you with sensible, conservative, care. I do the
following with my patients:



1) Stop diabetic pills and reduce or eliminate insulin. In most cases,
I have my patients stop all of their diabetic pills the day they start
the McDougall diet and exercise program and/or at least half of their
insulin. If this reduction is not made in a timely manner, then they
run a real risk of developing hypoglycemia (too low blood sugar). I
increase or reduce medications based on the patient?s response and as a
general guideline I try to keep their blood sugars between 150 to 250
mg/dl while I am trying to adjust their medication needs. Stopping
and/or reducing the medications reverses the weight gain immediately.
(Insulin cannot be stopped in type-1 diabetes, but the dosage is often
reduced.)

2) Change them to a low-fat, high-fiber, plant-based diet: the
McDougall diet. The diet should be based around starches with the
addition of fruits and vegetables ? there are no added vegetable oils.
Sample foods are: oatmeal, whole wheat pancakes or potatoes for
breakfast. Lunch can be soups, salads, and sandwiches. And dinner may
be thought of in terms of ethnic dishes, like Mexican burritos, Chinese
Mu Shu vegetables, Thai curried rice, or Italian whole grain pasta.

3) Ask them to exercise. Start at a comfortable level and gradually
build up. Exercise should be increased to the equivalent of at least a
half hour of walking a day.

4) Check their other risk factors for indications of serious disease,
such as cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood pressure. Then make diet
and lifestyle modifications to correct these (for example, fewer fruits
and juices with high triglycerides and cholesterol, and less salt with
high blood pressure).

5) Have them take appropriate medications only. For example, I
prescribe:

*

? Small doses of insulin for too much weight loss or if my
patient develops symptoms of diabetes, like too frequent urination or
excessive thirst.
*

? Cholesterol (and triglyceride) lowering medications in
order to reach ideal levels of 150 mg/dl, especially for patients at
high risk for a stroke or heart attack. (See my September 2002 and June
2003 Newsletters.)
*

? Blood pressure lowering medications, are sometimes
indicated in high-risk patients whose blood pressure remains at 160/100
mm Hg or greater for months. (See my August 2002 Newsletter.)

A prescription of a low-fat diet and exercise can be taught by any
interested physician or dietitian. Most diabetics respond within days ?
and with continued weight loss, most can be expected to stop all
diabetic medications ? and regain lost health and appearance. The most
difficult task for people with diabetes is to break from tradition ? the
following words may help. ?The diet recommended by the American Diabetic
Association virtually guarantees all diabetics will remain diabetic,?
claimed the pioneer nutritionist, Nathan Pritikin, 30 years ago. His
experiences from treating thousands of people with this disease
convinced him that type-2 diabetes is largely curable by following a
healthy diet and moderate exercise. Obviously the failure of modern
diabetic management has been known long before most diabetics developed
their disease ? yet nothing changes for the better. Your only chance is
to rebel against commonly accepted advice. Don?t you think a revolt is
long overdue based on the poor results you have experienced so far?

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From: Nicky on 31 Oct 2005 17:25

"Colin Hammond" <niloch(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4365c433(a)news.comindico.com.au...
> http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/040200diabetespf.htm
>
> Diabetic medications have never cured anyone of diabetes and actually
> compound the patients? problems. The patient goes to the doctor, is
> diagnosed with diabetes, placed on medication, and told to lose weight.
> Unfortunately, these medications make insulin more effective, causing more
> fat to be stored in the fat cells. The average initial weight gain when
> diabetic medications are started is 8 to 20 pounds

I don't have a huge issue with this guy's analysis of the problem - but
someone really ought to tell him about metformin.

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/74/72Kg


From: Alan S on 31 Oct 2005 20:11
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:25:25 -0000, "Nicky"
<ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote:

>
>"Colin Hammond" <niloch(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4365c433(a)news.comindico.com.au...
>> http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/040200diabetespf.htm
>>
>> Diabetic medications have never cured anyone of diabetes and actually
>> compound the patients? problems. The patient goes to the doctor, is
>> diagnosed with diabetes, placed on medication, and told to lose weight.
>> Unfortunately, these medications make insulin more effective, causing more
>> fat to be stored in the fat cells. The average initial weight gain when
>> diabetic medications are started is 8 to 20 pounds
>
>I don't have a huge issue with this guy's analysis of the problem - but
>someone really ought to tell him about metformin.
>
>Nicky.

I started to read but lost interest very quickly. Is it
worth the effort? Does he have any new insights or is he
pushing something?


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
From: Bastian on 31 Oct 2005 21:19
Alan S wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:25:25 -0000, "Nicky"
> <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote:
>>I don't have a huge issue with this guy's analysis of the problem - but
>>someone really ought to tell him about metformin.
>>
> I started to read but lost interest very quickly. Is it
> worth the effort? Does he have any new insights or is he
> pushing something?

If you read fat as carbohydrate, rich foods as carb loaded foods and
mentally twist a lot of the article away from fat towards carbs it makes
a little bit more sense.

Otherwise be careful of an article that may point to a diet rich in
fatty foods as being the primary causal and exasperating factor of
<insert name of disease here>.

Just my 2p,
Bastian
--
From: Alan S on 31 Oct 2005 22:27
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 02:19:36 GMT, Bastian
<bastian(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Alan S wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:25:25 -0000, "Nicky"
>> <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote:
>>>I don't have a huge issue with this guy's analysis of the problem - but
>>>someone really ought to tell him about metformin.
>>>
>> I started to read but lost interest very quickly. Is it
>> worth the effort? Does he have any new insights or is he
>> pushing something?
>
>If you read fat as carbohydrate, rich foods as carb loaded foods and
>mentally twist a lot of the article away from fat towards carbs it makes
>a little bit more sense.
>
>Otherwise be careful of an article that may point to a diet rich in
>fatty foods as being the primary causal and exasperating factor of
><insert name of disease here>.
>
>Just my 2p,
>Bastian

Thx. I'll leave it.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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