From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 20, 3:05 pm, Ilena Rose <B...(a)mundo.com> wrote:
> Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:http://
> I see Junk Disbarred Lawyer, Mark S Probert, is again, highjacking
> threads

Wrong-o. I did not hijack your thread. I merely pointed out that what
you posted was thoroughly refuted by Dr. Hall.

> for his industry funders in a classic "Ministry of Truth"
> propaganda tactic.www.

No propaganda. I posted facts that refute your post. Now, please find
a way to refute Dr. Hall.

For a cogent and detailed analysis of this garbage, and a comment
about the language issue, read:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=178


written by a knowledgeable person who read the original sutdy in
Spanish.

BTW, I am the local spokeperson for Peruvians Eating Tasty Animals.

From: Jan Drew on
"Ilena Rose" <BIA(a)mundo.com> wrote in message
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> Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
> http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
> I see Junk Disbarred Lawyer, Mark S Probert, is again, highjacking
> threads for his industry funders in a classic "Ministry of Truth"
> propaganda tactic.
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert
>
>
> EXCERPT: Conclusions: The administration of thimerosal in doses
> equivalent to vaccines content was associated with low corporal
> weight, low encephalon weight and smaller stature in postnatal
> hamsters.
>
> I was reading on the Barrett & the other Snake-oil Vigilante's
> Healthfraud list this close minded fool who had not even read the
> study, but in typical Healthfraud/Quack fashion dismisses it.
>
> Here is an excerpt from the Healthfraud List from a typical fake
> skeptic about this study, first published in Spanish.
>
> I provide the English translation below. If anyone has access to the
> Healthfraud List, please post this for them ... and anywhere else that
> can benefit. The Snake-oil Vigilantes are filling the blog world with
> their usual propaganda. Their list here:
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
>
>
> A Healthfraud wrote about this study: "Someone else as well as myself
> demanded an English translation to prove proper peer review, only to
> be told I was being prejudiced against Spanish and that the report had
> been peer reviewed. I don't believe it, but I can't get the idiots on
> the Autism Speaks forum to understand the fact that there is no formal
> translation of this report into any language that I am aware of makes
> it obvious that the report is no good - otherwise the scientific
> community would be falling over themselves to translate it."
>
>
>
> http://www.scielo.org.pe/scielo.php?script=sci_abstract&pid=S1025-55832007000300003&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en
>
> An. Fac. med., Sept. 2007, vol.68, no.3, p.222-237. ISSN 1025-5583.
>
> LAURENTE, Jonny, REMUZGO, Fany, AVALOS, Betthina et al. Neurotoxic
> effects of thimerosal at vaccines doses on the encephalon and
> development in 7 day-old hamsters. An. Fac. med., Sept. 2007, vol.68,
> no.3, p.222-237. ISSN 1025-5583.
>
> Objectives: To determine if thimerosal administration in amounts
> equivalent to vaccines content produces neurotoxic effects on the
> encephalon in postnatal hamsters and on experimentation animals'
> development. Design: Experimental, prospective, bietapic study.
> Setting: San Fernando Faculty of Medicine, Universidad Nacional Mayor
> de San Marcos. Biologic material: Seven-day old hamsters. Material: We
> divided 45 postnatal hamsters in three groups: group A (n = 15), group
> B (n = 15) and group C (n = 15). We administered three intramuscular
> equivalent doses of sucrose and thimerosal in 20 �L of physiological
> serum respectively to groups B and C on birth-days 7 (0,227 �g), 9
> (0,216 �g) and 11 (0,220 �g). Group A received only 20 �L of saline
> solution. Main outcome measures: Body weight, encephalon weight,
> hamster's stature and encephalon histopathological alterations.
> Results: Anova and student t tests showed statistical significance in
> favor of low body weight, low encephalon weight and smaller stature in
> group C with respect to groups A and B hamsters (p<0,000). ?2
> statistical significance in relation to the presence of
> histopathological alterations in group C was also obtained (p<0,000).
> We observed greater relative risk of encephalic alterations in group
> C. Conclusions: The administration of thimerosal in doses equivalent
> to vaccines content was associated with low corporal weight, low
> encephalon weight and smaller stature in postnatal hamsters.
> Neurotoxic effects were also produced at encephalic level, at
> hippocampus (regions CA1, CA3, DG), cerebral cortex and cerebellum
> (Purkinje cells and granuloses cells) with decrease in neuronal
> density, neuronal necrosis, axonal dismyelinization and gliosis. In
> addition, risk increase in developing any of these alterations was
> high in the animal group receiving thimerosal.