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From: Bonehammer on 17 Jul 2008 19:49
Hello,
I posted here a few months ago about my hypothyroidism treatment. I'm
currently on 125 L-thyroxine and mostly fine. I'm even back to doing
the housekeeping! In a couple weeks I'm having another blood test and
will see the endo to adjust the drug level.

I say 'mostly fine' because I have an occasional weird feeling,
something I've been unable to describe. It has become much rarer now
that my L-thyroxine dose has been upped.

The best simile I can find is like falling in cold water - something
sudden that comes, then goes, and leaves you with a need to gasp for
air. It occurs when I'm dozing off in my bed, but sometimes I've had
it after sitting at the desk for a few hours. Heart rate does not
change during these episodes.
Generally, the moment of going to bed isn't a good one for me. My feet
feel cold and like empty of blood; I feel like dozing off; it's like
my heart is sluggish, and I have a burning feeling in my chest.

Does anybody else have similar symptoms, or are they even thyroid
related?
More important, should I be worried?
I had chemo and radiation three years ago b/c of a breast cancer, and
both treatments could have affected the heart. But since it comes and
goes I'm more inclined to think it has to do with the hormone levels.
Thanks in advance,
Chiara
From: Rod on 18 Jul 2008 07:48
Bonehammer wrote:
> Hello,
> I posted here a few months ago about my hypothyroidism treatment. I'm
> currently on 125 L-thyroxine and mostly fine. I'm even back to doing
> the housekeeping! In a couple weeks I'm having another blood test and
> will see the endo to adjust the drug level.
>
> I say 'mostly fine' because I have an occasional weird feeling,
> something I've been unable to describe. It has become much rarer now
> that my L-thyroxine dose has been upped.
>
> The best simile I can find is like falling in cold water - something
> sudden that comes, then goes, and leaves you with a need to gasp for
> air. It occurs when I'm dozing off in my bed, but sometimes I've had
> it after sitting at the desk for a few hours. Heart rate does not
> change during these episodes.
> Generally, the moment of going to bed isn't a good one for me. My feet
> feel cold and like empty of blood; I feel like dozing off; it's like
> my heart is sluggish, and I have a burning feeling in my chest.
>
> Does anybody else have similar symptoms, or are they even thyroid
> related?
> More important, should I be worried?
> I had chemo and radiation three years ago b/c of a breast cancer, and
> both treatments could have affected the heart. But since it comes and
> goes I'm more inclined to think it has to do with the hormone levels.
> Thanks in advance,
> Chiara

Chiara,

Noticed lack of any response.

My view - everything is related to the thyroid. Unless it's not. :-)

More seriously - are you now euthyroid? Have you been tested recently?

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
From: Dee on 18 Jul 2008 08:25
I don't know if this is the same thing you are experiencing; but lately
(just the last month, or so), I jerk out of my sleep because it seems my
windpipe closes off; and I kind of let out a snoring, gasping sound
(although I've never been a snorer). I just started taking thyroid
medication within this period of time. Doesn't happen every night, though.

I've had a burning feeling in my chest, throat, mouth, and face for over a
year now, which has truly been difficult to live with, but you gotta do what
you gotta do. I tend to think like Rod does; that everything is related to
thyroid, unless proven otherwise, at least. : ) And since you've upped your
thyroid, and it's happening less frequently now, you would think it's
related to not getting enough hormone? Just guessing, though!

"Bonehammer" <bonehammer73(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:522a9bbb-ef82-44f3-908f-1b9365370af2(a)r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> I posted here a few months ago about my hypothyroidism treatment. I'm
> currently on 125 L-thyroxine and mostly fine. I'm even back to doing
> the housekeeping! In a couple weeks I'm having another blood test and
> will see the endo to adjust the drug level.
>
> I say 'mostly fine' because I have an occasional weird feeling,
> something I've been unable to describe. It has become much rarer now
> that my L-thyroxine dose has been upped.
>
> The best simile I can find is like falling in cold water - something
> sudden that comes, then goes, and leaves you with a need to gasp for
> air. It occurs when I'm dozing off in my bed, but sometimes I've had
> it after sitting at the desk for a few hours. Heart rate does not
> change during these episodes.
> Generally, the moment of going to bed isn't a good one for me. My feet
> feel cold and like empty of blood; I feel like dozing off; it's like
> my heart is sluggish, and I have a burning feeling in my chest.
>
> Does anybody else have similar symptoms, or are they even thyroid
> related?
> More important, should I be worried?
> I had chemo and radiation three years ago b/c of a breast cancer, and
> both treatments could have affected the heart. But since it comes and
> goes I'm more inclined to think it has to do with the hormone levels.
> Thanks in advance,
> Chiara



From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on 18 Jul 2008 09:07
in article
522a9bbb-ef82-44f3-908f-1b9365370af2(a)r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
Bonehammer at bonehammer73(a)yahoo.com wrote on 7/17/08 4:49 PM:

> Generally, the moment of going to bed isn't a good one for me. My feet
> feel cold and like empty of blood; I feel like dozing off; it's like
> my heart is sluggish, and I have a burning feeling in my chest.

Yes, lots of people have these symptoms.

Unfortunately they have little to do with thyroid dysfunction.

Sounds like you are dying of living your life darling ... losing your blood
pressure, congestive heart failure. Your heart has taken you for a hard
ride and last a long time given all the hardship in your life and emotional
challenges where there was no love for you from a champion in your family
.... leaving you to your own wits all alone. Much harder work in changing
the emotional bathwater I know ... but it shows how big of a spirit you are
in having your get kicked around like that.

All the genius in the world, like Beethoven, Da Vinci, etc ... about 90% of
them had horrible childhoods. Have to make room in your body for your
spirit to live in ... and it is full of hurt and pain in the process of
doing that. The defense structure makes everything, from stop signs to who
you love ... it is all to protect you, keep you safe, and heal.

Well darling ... love has no hurt, love has no pain.

Where ever you get love from inside of you, ask for more love. Have to be
ope and willing to receive it. Then in a short while, usually a few days,
it will do its work all things considered.

If there is resistence, then the frozen emotion of the Sympathetic Nervous
System Dominance ... that is making you all cold and sluggish and shutting
down ... well that has to be moved, softened, warmed up, streatched out ..
and then chilled down so the fibers come together.

If you have the time and the inclination, work on releasing the "MacFarlane
Response" out of the Golgi-Tendon Apparatus. This is a big help to elicting
the Relaxation Response out of the Parasympathetic Nervous System.

This is a painfull process, that will allow you die more comfortable,
peacefully, in your bed safe and warm while in your dreams ... then what you
defense structure is making up for you as part of your healing program.

This is Purgatory, have to go through your pain to find happiness here.

Death is a healing force ... look what it did to Tim Russet and Tony Snow
for US. Russet got the 5 day burial on tee vee rotation ... Tony Snow only
1 day of it thank God.

If you are bad for children, the defense structure wants to take you away.

The defense structure wants to make healthy children, that is why it does
what it does.

hope this helps darling ...

sumbuddie wear blind sea

:(


From: Bonehammer on 20 Jul 2008 17:49
On 18 Lug, 13:48, Rod <polygo...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> My view - everything is related to the thyroid. Unless it's not. :-)
>
> More seriously - are you now euthyroid? Have you been tested recently?

Rod,
Thanks for the reply. I don't think I'm euthyroid yet but the feeling
is that I'm 'nearly there' - minus this breathing thing and the fact
that I haven't shed a pound of what I accumulated during my hypo
period. The endo prescribed a gradual increase to 125 and re-testing
after a month on 125. I hate needles and would love not to have more
blood tests than necessary. I'll report once I have the actual values.

On 18 Lug, 14:25, "Dee" <jlmacdoug...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:
> I don't know if this is the same thing you are experiencing; but lately
> (just the last month, or so), I jerk out of my sleep because it seems my
> windpipe closes off; and I kind of let out a snoring, gasping sound
> (although I've never been a snorer). I just started taking thyroid
> medication within this period of time. Doesn't happen every night, though.
>
> I've had a burning feeling in my chest, throat, mouth, and face for over a
> year now, which has truly been difficult to live with, but you gotta do what
> you gotta do. I tend to think like Rod does; that everything is related to
> thyroid, unless proven otherwise, at least. : ) And since you've upped your
> thyroid, and it's happening less frequently now, you would think it's
> related to not getting enough hormone? Just guessing, though!

Yeah, if you experience a 'need for air' during this... occurrence,
and gasp because you feel something will go real bad if you don't,
it's the same thing that happens to me. It comes with a feeling of
'emptiness' in the chest, like the heart itself was dozing off... but
it's not palpitations.
As far as the gasping is concerned, I wonder whether it's just an
enlarged thyroid getting in the way of the trachea. But the other
symptoms puzzle me.

Cheers,
Chiara
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