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From: paula on 16 Jul 2008 02:42 Hi Used to post here but .. This is about my son: He was on OTC glandular thyroid. His symptoms were tremendously improved; incl. no more losing hair ( at age 24 he has a bald spot already for 6 years), losing weight, much less puffy face, energy and motivation really increased ( uni marks jumped up with lots less effort) etc. The most stunning was his 'mumbling' We finally were able to understand him. As we no longer are able to obtain that specific OTC thyroid, he went on 30 mg dessicated from me a day. He became even better till about 8 months later when he became 'uncomfortable in his skin' restless, a bit agitated. So, I told him maybe his thyroid kicked in and to reduce to once every 2 days. He came to visit 4 weeks after he reduced. Wow, puffy face, gained weight and we just can't understand what he says. But, he now realizes that it is his tongue that gets twisted, and he is very frustrated that words he was able to say before, he now often just can't say. So, any idea's as to the tongue twisting part? Is that a sign of hypo? can it be a sign of something else which happen to be solved with thyroid? Thinking about adrenals ... Please, no advice to see a GP/ endo. No chance on seeing a GP as he doesn't have one and they are very hard to get where he lives ( major shortage), and getting in to see an endo, well, out here we need a referral from a GP. Thanks for any help you can give
From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on 16 Jul 2008 09:36 in article aLgfk.506$rR2.504(a)edtnps83, paula at nomore(a)lspam.ca wrote on 7/15/08 11:42 PM: > So, any idea's as to the tongue twisting part? Is that a sign of hypo? > can it be a sign of something else which happen to be solved with > thyroid? Thinking about adrenals ... My guess ... the guy is an a closet alcoholic/drug user behind your back. In your presence, things are one way ... he leaves and comes back ... tis a mess. Hypo conditions ... are dying conditions. 100% hypo is 100% disability ... you are pretty much flat on your back, with a big flat tongue ... everything else is flat as well. To much muscle tonic, tension, spasticity ... well that could be ... in a very remote sense ... to MUCH thyroid .. HYPER THYROIDISM making that happen, and at the same it would like shut down the heart as well. The tongue is one of few muscles that is inverated by both sides of the brain, the heart, the frontalis muscles on the forehead are a few others. The tongue is getting all tonic .. the heart is as well is my IMO. So that is not hypo conditioning there ... that is something else. Have you looked into brain cancer ... syphallis ... stuff like that ... making up nerve damage that makes the muscles spasm like that. My guess, your son is dying, and dying from radiation poisoning, food poisoning, alcoholism ... something like that. Sorry for your pain Paula ... but your defense structure is making this up trying to get you to cry out the bitter salty tears. Once you do, then things will get better ... leastways your defense structure will have nothing around to make casualties, saddness and regrets for you as you will then be living in love, and not in living in fear, anger, etc. The learning curve is flat at first, but it picks up after awhile. Your life is this way because the toddler tantrum was not handled correctly I am sorry to say ... in your childhood, and that of your children. sumbuddie wear blind sea :(
From: Herman Family on 17 Jul 2008 00:11 "paula" <nomore(a)lspam.ca> wrote in message news:aLgfk.506$rR2.504(a)edtnps83... > Hi > > Used to post here but .. > This is about my son: He was on OTC glandular thyroid. His > symptoms were tremendously improved; incl. no more losing > hair ( at age 24 he has a bald spot already for 6 years), > losing weight, much less puffy face, energy and motivation > really increased ( uni marks jumped up with lots less > effort) etc. The most stunning was his 'mumbling' We > finally were able to understand him. > As we no longer are able to obtain that specific OTC > thyroid, he went on 30 mg dessicated from me a day. He > became even better till about 8 months later when he > became 'uncomfortable in his skin' restless, a bit > agitated. So, I told him maybe his thyroid kicked in and > to reduce to once every 2 days. > He came to visit 4 weeks after he reduced. Wow, puffy > face, gained weight and we just can't understand what he > says. But, he now realizes that it is his tongue that gets > twisted, and he is very frustrated that words he was able > to say before, he now often just can't say. > > So, any idea's as to the tongue twisting part? Is that a > sign of hypo? can it be a sign of something else which > happen to be solved with thyroid? Thinking about adrenals > ... > > Please, no advice to see a GP/ endo. No chance on seeing a > GP as he doesn't have one and they are very hard to get > where he lives ( major shortage), and getting in to see an > endo, well, out here we need a referral from a GP. > > Thanks for any help you can give > Thyroids don't just "kick in" for very long. Get him back on thyroid replacement. Just reducing the dose for a little while would have cured the crawling skin. Even just skipping a day or two would be good. He really has a fairly significant thyroid deficit if he has a puffy face and difficulty talking. I don't know where you are, but it would be a good idea to have some blood tests done to quantify just how bad off he is. Life is quite a bit better when your thyroid levels are right. Michael
From: Rod on 17 Jul 2008 03:09 paula wrote: > Hi > > Used to post here but .. > This is about my son: He was on OTC glandular thyroid. His symptoms were > tremendously improved; incl. no more losing hair ( at age 24 he has a > bald spot already for 6 years), losing weight, much less puffy face, > energy and motivation really increased ( uni marks jumped up with lots > less effort) etc. The most stunning was his 'mumbling' We finally were > able to understand him. > As we no longer are able to obtain that specific OTC thyroid, he went on > 30 mg dessicated from me a day. He became even better till about 8 > months later when he became 'uncomfortable in his skin' restless, a bit > agitated. So, I told him maybe his thyroid kicked in and to reduce to > once every 2 days. > He came to visit 4 weeks after he reduced. Wow, puffy face, gained > weight and we just can't understand what he says. But, he now realizes > that it is his tongue that gets twisted, and he is very frustrated that > words he was able to say before, he now often just can't say. > > So, any idea's as to the tongue twisting part? Is that a sign of hypo? > can it be a sign of something else which happen to be solved with > thyroid? Thinking about adrenals ... > > Please, no advice to see a GP/ endo. No chance on seeing a GP as he > doesn't have one and they are very hard to get where he lives ( major > shortage), and getting in to see an endo, well, out here we need a > referral from a GP. > > Thanks for any help you can give > I concur fully with those who suggest that he is now hypothyroid. I do not know where you are - looks like it could be Canada - so this might not be true for you. We can buy thyroid testing kits and send the samples off for analysis. The only difficulty is that most (all?) need more blood than can easily be taken from a finger prick so you might need someone who can take blood samples. And paying for them - not sure how much they cost here - let alone where you are. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
From: Dee on 17 Jul 2008 08:16 I'm just learning all of this stuff, myself; but I'm under the impression that 30 mgs is a very low dose to stay with. Isn't this usually just a starting dose? Not to recommend *you* decide how much of the medication your son gets - I think it is a good idea for him to get some bloodwork done and check out what's going on (and several people here have advised). Even then, after knowing what's going on, apparently you should dose according to alleviation of symptoms, which I'm under the impression is just as, if not more, important than the numbers. Good luck. Dee "paula" <nomore(a)lspam.ca> wrote in message news:aLgfk.506$rR2.504(a)edtnps83... > Hi > > Used to post here but .. > This is about my son: He was on OTC glandular thyroid. His symptoms were > tremendously improved; incl. no more losing hair ( at age 24 he has a bald > spot already for 6 years), losing weight, much less puffy face, energy and > motivation really increased ( uni marks jumped up with lots less effort) > etc. The most stunning was his 'mumbling' We finally were able to > understand him. > As we no longer are able to obtain that specific OTC thyroid, he went on > 30 mg dessicated from me a day. He became even better till about 8 months > later when he became 'uncomfortable in his skin' restless, a bit agitated. > So, I told him maybe his thyroid kicked in and to reduce to once every 2 > days. > He came to visit 4 weeks after he reduced. Wow, puffy face, gained weight > and we just can't understand what he says. But, he now realizes that it is > his tongue that gets twisted, and he is very frustrated that words he was > able to say before, he now often just can't say. > > So, any idea's as to the tongue twisting part? Is that a sign of hypo? can > it be a sign of something else which happen to be solved with thyroid? > Thinking about adrenals ... > > Please, no advice to see a GP/ endo. No chance on seeing a GP as he > doesn't have one and they are very hard to get where he lives ( major > shortage), and getting in to see an endo, well, out here we need a > referral from a GP. > > Thanks for any help you can give >
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