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From: Elizabeth on 15 Jun 2008 20:59
Hi everyone,

I'm afraid I'm sort of beating a topic to death right now, but I'm feeling
bad and need to vent somewhere.

I should be feeling lots better by now. I've been slowly increasing on
Synthroid since early February. The dose I'm on now should get my TSH close
to 1 and my T4 close to mid-range.

So why do I feel so exhausted all the time? I think I'm sleeping pretty
well, but within hours of taking my Synthroid, the fog starts to roll in. I
just don't understand it. On lower doses, I think I felt better, but
certainly not well. Now, at a higher dose, I think I feel worse.

For those of you who went off Synthroid (or other synthetic T4) because it
wasn't working, did you get to your supposed optimal dose, and how did it
make you feel? It seems like some of my symptoms improved (tingling/numbness
in extremities, body temp, dry skin) but others are either still here or
even seem a little worse (fatigue, fogginess).

HELP. I am in the process of setting up an appointment with an osteopath. It
can't come soon enough at this point.

E.


From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on 15 Jun 2008 23:55
in article 8KCdnX9HjaFWJ8jVnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com, Elizabeth at
esnively(a)earthlink.net wrote on 6/15/08 5:59 PM:

> HELP. I am in the process of setting up an appointment with an osteopath. It
> can't come soon enough at this point.
>
> E.


Dearest El-za-beth ...

Perhaps you are aware, but a bone doctor are not big on endocrinology
problems. However you have a bone subluxated and needs mobilization to free
up a pinched nerve sort of thing ... well an osteopath is the person to see
I like to think.

As for the thyroid hormone is not working (usually synthetic and more
organic natural sources would do the same thing to the soup you live in),
well that would come up on blood assay.

Your thyroid panel is spot on correct, and you are clinically getting the
medical profile to come up the right way ... then symptomology would be
better spent barking up another scientific tree usually and almost always.

Every once in a while you will get a false positive reading on the blood
assay (how that would work I do not have a clue, but miracles do happen.)
showing your thryoid panel is correct, and your cells are not getting the
thyroid preparation inside of them ... as it is an immune defense structure
keeping out a foreign body.

This foreign thyroid preparation that is synthetic or more natural is not an
issue, the immune system is foxed up so it works the way it works.

Since this would be very rare ... I would think your thyroid panels is
correct, and you got something else going on ... like Lyme Disease from a
crypto tick bite.

Or your toddler tantrum was not handled correctly in your childhood, and all
your symptoms are aspects of post traumatic stress disorder, adrenal burnout
syndrome, and is trying to get you to cry out the bitter salty tears.
Depression is symptomatic and psychosomatic. Fatigue, soreness, pain,
malase, life is foxed sort of thing going on.

The toddler tantrum gone wrong.

sumbuddie hopes that helps darling.

:/


From: Herman Family on 16 Jun 2008 00:21

"Elizabeth" <esnively(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:8KCdnX9HjaFWJ8jVnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm afraid I'm sort of beating a topic to death right now,
> but I'm feeling bad and need to vent somewhere.
>
> I should be feeling lots better by now. I've been slowly
> increasing on Synthroid since early February. The dose I'm
> on now should get my TSH close to 1 and my T4 close to
> mid-range.
>
> So why do I feel so exhausted all the time? I think I'm
> sleeping pretty well, but within hours of taking my
> Synthroid, the fog starts to roll in. I just don't
> understand it. On lower doses, I think I felt better, but
> certainly not well. Now, at a higher dose, I think I feel
> worse.
>
> For those of you who went off Synthroid (or other
> synthetic T4) because it wasn't working, did you get to
> your supposed optimal dose, and how did it make you feel?
> It seems like some of my symptoms improved
> (tingling/numbness in extremities, body temp, dry skin)
> but others are either still here or even seem a little
> worse (fatigue, fogginess).
>
> HELP. I am in the process of setting up an appointment
> with an osteopath. It can't come soon enough at this
> point.
>
> E.
>

You may be a bit on the hyper side.

Ask if you can back off by one dose level. Also look for
other issues that might have popped up.

Michael


From: Rod on 16 Jun 2008 03:44
Elizabeth wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm afraid I'm sort of beating a topic to death right now, but I'm feeling
> bad and need to vent somewhere.
>
> I should be feeling lots better by now. I've been slowly increasing on
> Synthroid since early February. The dose I'm on now should get my TSH close
> to 1 and my T4 close to mid-range.
>
> So why do I feel so exhausted all the time? I think I'm sleeping pretty
> well, but within hours of taking my Synthroid, the fog starts to roll in. I
> just don't understand it. On lower doses, I think I felt better, but
> certainly not well. Now, at a higher dose, I think I feel worse.
>
> For those of you who went off Synthroid (or other synthetic T4) because it
> wasn't working, did you get to your supposed optimal dose, and how did it
> make you feel? It seems like some of my symptoms improved (tingling/numbness
> in extremities, body temp, dry skin) but others are either still here or
> even seem a little worse (fatigue, fogginess).
>
> HELP. I am in the process of setting up an appointment with an osteopath. It
> can't come soon enough at this point.
>
> E.
>
>

Elizabeth,

Post as you need - it is so obviously causing you lots of "bad things".

You are by no means the first to feel something like this. Partner had a
nightmare increasing her dose. Everything suggested that she needed more
- but each time she increased her dose, she felt awful after a few days.
She has somehow managed to get to something like double the dose that
she was then taking. (She has tried Armour and T4 in various
combinations.) But it has taken many, many months to ramp up.

Maybe try splitting your dose? That should help to reduce the highest peak.

Are you taking any other medications/supplements? (Just checked - you
posted multivit, selenium/ fish oil the other day.) There seems to be a
lot of evidence that serious doses of the B vitamins can be required.
Ensure you take 1000 mcg of B12 a day.

There is plenty of mention in research papers (of course, mostly or
exclusively on animals rather than humans) of the possibility of some
tissues being hyper, some hypo and some about right - all at the same
time in the same animal. This is almost never mentioned outside those
papers. And I certainly don't understand what should be done about it.
(Wish I did - I'd tell partner. :-) )

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
From: Gail on 16 Jun 2008 04:31
Hi Elizabeth,

Are you taking any adrenal support? That can be a common reason for
feeling worse as you replace the thyroid hormone. Have you seen the
Stop the Thyroid Madness website? It has lots of helpful information.

I've read that using homeopathic Fucus Vesicularis in very low potency
can balance out the conflicting over/under symptoms.

Gail
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