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From: Chom Noamsky on 12 Mar 2007 14:31 > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > news:et3pe6$v67$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > Omnivores are carnivorous. Where are meat-eating adaptations? The brain.
From: Chom Noamsky on 12 Mar 2007 14:33 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et3pdb$v1j$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > <10x(a)telu�s.net> wrote in message > news:8h58v2d61s7v55t6n5tb0rf1bi88c0odgi(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:08:35 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> >> wrote: >> >> >"Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message >> >news:H2LIh.62343$Du6.31635(a)edtnps82... >> >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> >> news:esvdt7$67m$2(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> >> >> > Humans are not a naturally carnivorous species. >> >> >> >> Humans are naturally omnivores (both herbivore and carnivore). That >> >> can be >> >> proven by simply examining our teeth. >> > >> >See my reply to Nobody. >> > >> >> >> And how would Pearl suggest the Inuit grow cereal crops and >> >> >> vegetables? OR is global warming going to allow them to do that? >> >> > >> >> > These seals are not being killed for meat. >> >> >> >> There is still a market for seal meat but it isn't the primary market. >> > >> >Again, show us data to support your claim. >> >> You want the menu for an outport restraunt in Newfoundland? >> You have never had seal flipper soup? > > 'Most of the meat is wasted and left on the ice. Some if it is > sold to fur farms and some is ground up into animal feed. A > few thousand seal flippers are sold for human consumption in > Newfoundland. There is also a growing black market demand > for the seal penis bone in the Far East as some sort of voodoo > quack remedy for impotence. > ... > There are few indigenous peoples involved in the commercial > seal "hunt". Inuit or Native people in the North hunt mostly in > the arctic and primarily ringed seals. Most of the sealers in the > Gulf of St.Lawrence are residents of the Magdalen Islands > of Quebec. These are French speaking people. Most of the > sealers of the Newfoundland Front are descendents of the > European immigrants. > > There are about 4500 Inuit in Newfoundland. However, the > original Newfoundlanders, the Beothuk, were driven into > extinction by the European immigrants. The last member of > the Beothuk nation died in 1912. The Newfoundlanders had > a bounty on the Beothuk and most were slain by MicMac > Indian bounty hunters from New Brunswick and Quebec. > Newfoundlanders also drove the Newfoundland wolf, the > walrus, and the Labrador duck to extinction and extirpated the > polar bear, and the pilot whale from Newfoundland territory.... > ...' > http://www.harpseals.org/hunt/faqs.html > >> You should travel to China and take a close look at the menus there. >> If it walks, swims, crawls, or is breathing, it just might be a menu >> item. > > 'Tu Quoque - Two Wrongs Make a Right > > Description: Two wrongs never add up to a right; you cannot right > a wrong by applying yet another wrong. Such a fallacy is a misplaced > appeal to consistency. It is a fallacy because it makes no attempt to > deal with the subject under discussion. Do you have an opinion of your own, or do you just parrot websites?
From: Chom Noamsky on 12 Mar 2007 14:50 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et3pdu$v62$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message > news:l6WIh.74648$cE3.56660(a)edtnps89... >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> news:et0rkr$ph2$3(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message >> > news:H2LIh.62343$Du6.31635(a)edtnps82... >> >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> >> news:esvdt7$67m$2(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> >> >> > Humans are not a naturally carnivorous species. >> >> >> >> Humans are naturally omnivores (both herbivore and carnivore). That >> >> can >> >> be >> >> proven by simply examining our teeth. >> > >> > See my reply to Nobody. >> >> See my post about strontium/calcium in hominid fossil bone. It makes the >> argument about teeth rather irrelevant. > > I'm waiting to see the data. > >> >> >> And how would Pearl suggest the Inuit grow cereal crops and >> >> >> vegetables? OR is global warming going to allow them to do that? >> >> > >> >> > These seals are not being killed for meat. >> >> >> >> There is still a market for seal meat but it isn't the primary market. >> > >> > Again, show us data to support your claim. >> >> http://www.sealharvest.ca/html/products.html > > "Meat processing on a commercial basis has always been > minimal since consumption is restricted to the domestic market > in Atlantic and Arctic Canada especially in Newfoundland. " > > 'Most of the meat is wasted and left on the ice. Some if it is > sold to fur farms and some is ground up into animal feed. A > few thousand seal flippers are sold for human consumption in > Newfoundland. Shows the need to better cultivate markets for seal meat. > There is also a growing black market demand > for the seal penis bone in the Far East as some sort of voodoo > quack remedy for impotence. The seal hunt is legal, the trade in such animal parts is not. Go after the criminals. > There are few indigenous peoples involved in the commercial > seal "hunt". Inuit or Native people in the North hunt mostly in > the arctic and primarily ringed seals. Most of the sealers in the > Gulf of St.Lawrence are residents of the Magdalen Islands > of Quebec. These are French speaking people. Most of the > sealers of the Newfoundland Front are descendents of the > European immigrants. And? > There are about 4500 Inuit in Newfoundland. However, the > original Newfoundlanders, the Beothuk, were driven into > extinction by the European immigrants. The last member of > the Beothuk nation died in 1912. The Newfoundlanders had > a bounty on the Beothuk and most were slain by MicMac > Indian bounty hunters from New Brunswick and Quebec. > Newfoundlanders also drove the Newfoundland wolf, the > walrus, and the Labrador duck to extinction and extirpated the > polar bear, and the pilot whale from Newfoundland territory.... The sons are responsible for the sins of the father?
From: Chom Noamsky on 12 Mar 2007 15:05 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et3pbs$v1f$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message > news:lnWIh.75072$cE3.59687(a)edtnps89... >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> news:et0rqr$phu$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> > I care about the seals and the environment. Duh. >> >> Harp Seals are not in any great danger of extinction, far from it, the >> populations are quite healthy and have been stable for years. > > 'While the harp seal is not on Canada's species at risk list, it is > unlikely that the population can continue to withstand the current > levels of exploitation. <snip all usual ARA propaganda> The World Wildlife Fund supports the seal hunt. They've taken the realistic approach and believe a sustainable hunt is the best solution for all parties. The ARAs are ideologically driven radicals that have no connection to seals or the communities that hunt them, other than this type of activism is a very good way to raise funds and keep their leaders employed. If the WWF and respected conservationists believes the hunt is sustainable, that's good enough for me.
From: Eric Gisin on 12 Mar 2007 15:00
"Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message news:y0hJh.38687$lY6.20732(a)edtnps90... >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et3pe6$v67$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> Omnivores are carnivorous. Where are meat-eating adaptations? > > The brain. Leading to technology, like stone tools 2M years ago and fire over 1M years ago. |