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From: 10x on 16 Mar 2007 09:40 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:28:17 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote: >> >False. Already addressed. >> >> How is it false. Agriculture destroys and changes the structure of >> wildlife habitat. That is a fact. > >A tenth of all land is arable land (present cropland). A third of >that ten percent is used to cultivate feed crops. Up to 50% of >all land is grazed by domestic livestock. But present cropland >could feed ten billion people, allowing the land grazed to revert >to natural habitat, as it was before it was grazed by livestock. Livestock graze on land that won't produce crops. Goats are a case in point. Man grows crops where the soil allows it, and raises livestock on the land that won't grow a crop. Agriculture kills wildlife habitat, even for vegetarians - get over it. take the � out of 10x(a)telu�s.net to email me
From: 10x on 16 Mar 2007 09:43 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:29:57 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote: >> Tell me how is taking one deer of a thousand, or one seal out of a >> thosand, using the skin, and eating the seal damaging the environment? > >Humans number over 6 billion. How many deer and seals? I would strongly suggest you visit mainland china. There are a billion people there. Every square inch of arable land is utilized. Every thing that is wild is a source of sustenance. That is what agriculture for 4000 years does to the environment. Grazing keeps part of the land close to natural. As for how many deer and seals, not enough to feed 6 billion people. but enough to feed the local folk so they don't starve. take the � out of 10x(a)telu�s.net to email me
From: 10x on 16 Mar 2007 09:46 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:29:57 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote: >Go vegetarian, and we would require less cropland than is >currently used for food and feed, without the need to hunt. This is the "a family can exist on five acres of vegetables theory"? There are 6 billion people in the world. Are there 6 billion acres of arable land? And what do they do when the uncontroled, overpopulated, starving wildlife eats the vegetables on their acre of land? take the � out of 10x(a)telu�s.net to email me
From: pearl on 16 Mar 2007 09:48 "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:12vl558c301ji04(a)corp.supernews.com... > > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > news:ete1u0$5a8$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message > > news:pUWJh.83467$Du6.10748(a)edtnps82... > >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > >> news:et9bp8$84o$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > >> > >> > Find ways to do it that don't harm others. > >> > >> You should apply that to your own lifestyle first. Begin by turning off > >> your PC which robs wildlife of its natural habitat. Do you believe wild > >> animals have a right to a habitat? > > > > "The human appetite for animal flesh is a driving force behind > > virtually every major category of environmental damage now > > threatening the human future: deforestation, erosion, fresh water > > scarcity, air and water pollution, climate change, biodiversity loss, > > social injustice, the destabilization of communities, and the spread > > of disease." - World Watch > > > > > > Try again > More forests have been destroyed and land eroded for agriculture (that > means growing plants) than for raising animals for food 'Livestock a major threat to environment ... Livestock now use 30 percent of the earth's entire land surface, mostly permanent pasture but also including 33 percent of the global arable land used to producing feed for livestock, the report notes. As forests are cleared to create new pastures, it is a major driver of deforestation, especially in Latin America where, for example, some 70 percent of former forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing. Land and water At the same time herds cause wide-scale land degradation, with about 20 percent of pastures considered as degraded through overgrazing, compaction and erosion. This figure is even higher in the drylands where inappropriate policies and inadequate livestock management contribute to advancing desertification. The livestock business is among the most damaging sectors to the earth's increasingly scarce water resources, contributing among other things to water pollution, euthropication and the degeneration of coral reefs. The major polluting agents are animal wastes, antibiotics and hormones, chemicals from tanneries, fertilizers and the pesticides used to spray feed crops. Widespread overgrazing disturbs water cycles, reducing replenishment of above and below ground water resources. Significant amounts of water are withdrawn for the production of feed. Livestock are estimated to be the main inland source of phosphorous and nitrogen contamination of the South China Sea, contributing to biodiversity loss in marine ecosystems. Meat and dairy animals now account for about 20 percent of all terrestrial animal biomass. Livestock's presence in vast tracts of land and its demand for feed crops also contribute to biodiversity loss; 15 out of 24 important ecosystem services are assessed as in decline, with livestock identified as a culprit. .... http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html Impact of livestock grazing on wildlife and habitat worldwide: http://www.wasteofthewest.com/Chapter6.html "global arable land" = "present cropland".. From Technological Trajectories and the Human Environment. 1997. Pp. 56-73. Washington, DC: National Academy Press. "How Much Land Can Ten Billion People Spare for Nature?".. 'By eating different species of crops and a more or less vegetarian diet people can change the number that a plot can feed. And large numbers of people do change their diets. The calories and protein available from present cropland could provide a vegetarian diet to ten billion people. A diet requiring food and feed totaling 6,000 calories daily for ten billion people, however, would overwhelm the capability of present agriculture on present cropland. The global totals of sun, CO2, fertilizer, and even water could produce far more food than what ten billion people need. ...' http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=4767&page=56 > Ditto for chemical polution of land and waters with fertilisers and > pesticides Ipse dixit. And don't blame the produce for the methods used. > World Watch is one of those organizations that works on the rule > "These are the conclusions on which I base my facts..." Hardly. 'The Worldwatch Institute is an environmental research organisation in the United States. It is an independent research organization that works for an environmentally sustainable and socially just society, in which the needs of all people are met without threatening the health of the natural environment or the well-being of future generations." It publishes "The State of the World" annually. ....' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwatch_Institute
From: 10x on 16 Mar 2007 09:51
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:11 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote: ><10x(a)telu�s.net> wrote in message news:7bhhv2hk37ir577ah071vvueqsbveff2bc(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:58:17 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> >> wrote: >.. >> >Clue: Humans number over six billion these days. Where >> >is all this wildlife you seem so keen on "harvesting", hmm? >> > >> >Provide evidence to support your claims... >> >> If you go out in the woods today, you're in for a big surprize. There >> is wildlife there, some places the highest populations of wildlife >> since before the fur trade. Wildlife numbers so high that the habitat >> can no longer provide enough food to support the populations. >> ANd you want to see these beautiful (tasty) animals starve and get >> eaten by wolves and coyotes while they are too week to flee? > >Show us some examples of what you claim. Here is a photo of two predators fighting over a carcass http://www.tarsiger.com/index.php?pic_id=komi1142612071&lang=eng take the � out of 10x(a)telu�s.net to email me |