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From: Chom Noamsky on 14 Mar 2007 14:53 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et9bt1$852$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message > news:q1WJh.83409$Du6.64406(a)edtnps82... >> > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> > news:et995j$6ua$2(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> So you would take away a traditional lifestyle and income away from >> >> folks who have lived of the fare of the ocean for at least tens of >> >> centuries? What would they turn to for food and income if this is >> >> denyied them? >> >> So what if these folks speak French. It is their lifestyle and lively >> >> hood you attack. They don't attack you for being vegetarian. >> > >> > Yeah..right. What part of "'Most of the meat is wasted and left >> > on the ice." are you still having trouble with? If as a last resort >> > seal meat is required, I can't object, but that isn't the case here. >> >> Wasted because of international ARA campaigns. > > That's a new one. Do explain. I'm sure you can figure than one out for yourself... or maybe not... you seem to be heavily reliant on "answers.com" >> >> Vegetarians are responsible for a great deal of loss of wildlife >> >> habitat to the plow. They eat, wildlife starves. >> > >> > As if you 'omnivores' don't eat vegetables and fruits, grains, >> > legumes, nuts and so on as well. Addressed in other posts. >> >> The 'ominvores' are not preaching from a holider-than-thou position > > That sure doesn't stop you from trying. You are the one wishing to foist your ideology and beliefs upon others.
From: Chom Noamsky on 14 Mar 2007 14:57 > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > news:et995p$6ua$5(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > > 'According to Tuttle, the first substantive information on chimp diets > was provided by Nissen in 1931 (p.75). In 1930 Nissen spent 75 > days of a 3-month period tracking and observing chimps. He made > direct unquantified observations and examined fecal deposits and > leftovers at feeding sites. He also found "no evidence that they ate > honey, eggs or animal prey" - this observation may have been too > limited due to seasonal variations in the chimp diet. No evidence, eh? "When Jane Goodall first observed wild chimpanzees hunting and eating meat nearly 40 years ago, skeptics suggested that their behavior was aberrant and that the amount of meat eaten was trivial. Today, we know that chimpanzees everywhere eat mainly fruit, but are also predators in their forest ecosystems. In some sites the quantity of meat eaten by a chimpanzee community may approach one ton annually. Recently revealed aspects of predation by chimpanzees, such as its frequency and the use of meat as a political and reproductive tool, have important implications for research on the origins of human behavior. These findings come at a time when many anthropologists argue for scavenging rather than hunting as a way of life for early human ancestors. Research into the hunting ecology of wild chimpanzees may therefore shed new light on the current debate about the origins of human behavior." http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html
From: Chom Noamsky on 14 Mar 2007 15:01 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et0rkq$ph2$2(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Nobody" <not(a)home.anymore> wrote in message > news:Xns98EFCED54BC3A1v2rt(a)204.153.245.131... >> pearl wrote: >> >> > "Nobody" <not(a)home.anymore> wrote in message >> > news:Xns98EFA62456F7E1v2rt(a)204.153.245.131... >> >> pearl wrote: >> >> >> >> > Humans are not a naturally carnivorous species. >> >> >> >> Who told you that? Someone from PETA? >> > >> > Anatomy, physiology, biology, epidemiological and clinical >> > research.. >> >> Clinical research? Whose? > > 'Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate > for all stages of the lifecycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, > infancy, childhood and adolescence. Appropriately planned vegetarian > diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate and provide health benefits in > the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.' These 'certain > diseases' are the killer epidemics of today - heart disease, strokes, > cancers, diabetes etc. > > This is the view of the world's most prestigious health advisory body, > the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada, after a > review of world literature. It is backed up by the British Medical > Association: > > 'Vegetarians have lower rates of obesity, coronary heart disease, > high blood pressure, large bowel disorders, cancers and gall stones.' http://www.beyondveg.com/
From: Chom Noamsky on 14 Mar 2007 15:08 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:et9961$6ua$12(a)reader01.news.esat.net... Oh look, I can cut and paste all my argument too!!!! Myth: Sixteen pounds of grain and soybeans are needed to produce 1 pound of beef. This estimate is based on the false assumption that beef cattle are fed grain diets from birth to market weight. According to the Council for Agricultural Science and Technology (CAST) 1999 Animal Agriculture and Global Food Supply Report, an average of 2.6 pounds of grain is used to produce a pound of beef in developed countries and 0.3 lb. in developing countries. Animals don't steal grains destined for the world's hungry; instead they consume large amounts of feedstuffs not suitable for human consumption. This includes forage from marginal land that can't be cultivated for human foods and food processors' byproducts such as citrus pulp brewers' grains, almond hulls and tomato pomace. The soybean product fed to cattle is a meal made of the bean flakes, which remain after the soy oil is extracted for human consumption. In addition, corn fed to cattle is feed corn grown specifically for use as livestock feed and of lower quality than corn grown for human consumption. http://www.beeffrompasturetoplate.org/mythmeatproductioniswasteful.aspx
From: Chom Noamsky on 14 Mar 2007 16:03
> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > news:et6d75$1ij$16(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > 'Anthropocentrism > By Penelope Smith <snip biased ara opinion> Let me ask you one simple question (how you answer will expose your entire philosophy as a fraud): Which is more worthy of rights, a seal or a fish? |