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From: pearl on 13 Mar 2007 10:06 "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message news:BeiJh.38699$lY6.2489(a)edtnps90... > > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > > news:et3o5j$ui6$2(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > > > > They belong to no one. You cannot truthfully own other beings. > > The world doesn't run on the theoretical ethics of misguided animal rights > activists. All major religions support a human-centric view of the world, > that we are superior beings and hold dominion over the natural world. To > claim that one "cannot truthfully own other beings" is moot and irrelevant. 'Benedict XVI Continues Tradition of Papal Concern for Animals Just hours after Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was named Pope Benedict XVI in April 2005, PETA offered congratulations and urged His Holiness to include animals in the Catholic Church's areas of concern. Pope Benedict XVI has spoken movingly about the exploitation of all beings, particularly of farmed animals, and PETA has created an ad featuring this message. When he was asked about the rights of animals in a 2002 interview, he said, "That is a very serious question. At any rate, we can see that they are given into our care, that we cannot just do whatever we want with them. Animals, too, are God's creatures .. . . Certainly, a sort of industrial use of creatures, so that geese are fed in such a way as to produce as large a liver as possible, or hens live so packed together that they become just caricatures of birds, this degrading of living creatures to a commodity seems to me in fact to contradict the relationship of mutuality that comes across in the Bible." Cardinal Ratzinger was echoing official church teachings, as laid out in the Catholic Catechism, which states clearly that "Animals are God's creatures. He surrounds them with his providential care. By their mere existence they bless him and give him glory. Thus men owe them kindness. We should recall the gentleness with which saints like St. Francis of Assisi or St. Philip Neri treated animals. . . . It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly." In our letter, we asked His Holiness to bring his own compassionate vision to the public: "We hope that you will continue to speak out for these exploited beings. In recent years, our membership has swelled with [Catholics] who believe that animals, like people, have a sacred right to life and need to be protected from violence. . . . We turn to you now, as you take on your momentous duties, and humbly ask that you lead the way into a new era of compassion and respect for all beings, regardless of species." Read PETA's letter to Pope Benedict XVI. Compassion for animals was also a prominent theme in John Paul II's papacy. Pope John Paul proclaimed that "the animals possess a soul and men must love and feel solidarity with our smaller brethren." He went on to say that all animals are "fruit of the creative action of the Holy Spirit and merit respect" and that they are "as near to God as men are." Animal lovers everywhere were overjoyed! He reminded people that all living beings, including animals, came into being because of the "breath" of God. Animals possess the divine spark of life - the living quality that is the soul - and they are not inferior beings, as factory farmers, fur farmers, and others who exploit animals for profit would have us believe. After he became Pope John Paul II, His Holiness went to Assisi, the birthplace of St. Francis, and spoke of the saint's love for animals. He declared, "We, too, are called to a similar attitude." PETA is hopeful that Pope Benedict XVI will continue to speak out for animals in his papacy as he did as a cardinal and that he will take a stand against the hideous treatment endured by God's creatures. Catholics can honor the teachings of Pope John Paul II and the sentiments of Pope Benedict XVI by incorporating compassion for animals more fully into their own lives. Order a free vegetarian starter kit to get started on a more compassionate path today. http://www.goveg.com/order.asp .
From: pearl on 13 Mar 2007 10:13 "Nobody" <not(a)home.anymore> wrote in message news:Xns98F1C0F3822A81v2rt(a)204.153.245.131... > pearl wrote: > > >> > The seals do not belong to you. > >> > >> You think that they belong to you? > > > > They belong to no one. You cannot truthfully own other beings. > > Now your true colours come out. I thought you might not be a > kook...my bad. 'ad hominem abusive: instead of attacking an assertion, attacking the person who made the assertion. ...' http://www.mdpme.com/FALLACY5.HTM > > Wildlife exists for its own ends, not yours, and you NEED > > telling.. > > Plants are what FOOD eats. If you don't agree, good for you. I LIKE > meat. 'The big problem we have before us in the meat industry is to how to reduce the levels of fat in meat without leaving it dry and tasteless when we eat it. Fat contributes a lot of taste to meat, particularly those flavours that allow us to recognize one species from another. Without it, we may end up with just a bland, general meaty taste. ' http://www.aps.uoguelph.ca/~swatland/ch2_4.htm 'Measuring Brain Activity In People Eating Chocolate Offers New Clues About How The Body Becomes Addicted CHICAGO --- Using positron emission tomography scans to measure brain activity in people eating chocolate, a team of U.S. and Canadian neuroscientists believe they have identified areas of the brain that may underlie addiction and eating disorders. Dana Small, assistant professor of neurology at Northwestern University Medical School, and colleagues found that individuals' ratings of the pleasantness of eating chocolate were associated with increased blood flow in areas of the brain, particularly in the orbital frontal cortex and midbrain, that are also activated by addictive drugs such as cocaine. ... According to Small, a primary reinforcer is a stimulus that an individual doesn't have to learn to like but, rather, is enjoyed from birth. Addictive drugs can be viewed as primary reinforcers. Fat and sweet also are primary reinforcers, and chocolate is chock full of fat and sweet, Small said. ... Small explained that studying the brain's response to eating a highly rewarding food such as chocolate provides an effective "in-health" model of addiction. " ...' www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/08/010829082943.htm > > 'Opinion polls consistently show a clear majority of Canadians > > oppose the commercial seal hunt. Nearly 70 percent of Canadians > > .. oppose the seal hunt outright > > Proved you wrong on that point in another post. Pearl, you saying > the same bullshit over and over doesn't make it true. Not come across that yet.. > > Seals - an ideal scapegoat > > <snip> > > Yes, you are a real kook. Only a kook will take any reply as an > opportunity to post a huge rant about their views. Try your OWN > words and you MIGHT regain some credibility. 'ad hominem abusive: instead of attacking an assertion, attacking the person who made the assertion. ...' http://www.mdpme.com/FALLACY5.HTM Try making a valid argument and -you- might gain some credibility.
From: pearl on 13 Mar 2007 10:17 "Nobody" <not(a)home.anymore> wrote in message news:Xns98F1C1FEBA9331v2rt(a)204.153.245.131... > pearl wrote: > > > 'Most of the meat is wasted and left on the ice. Some if it is > > sold to fur farms and some is ground up into animal feed. A > > few thousand seal flippers are sold for human consumption in > > Newfoundland. There is also a growing black market demand > > for the seal penis bone in the Far East as some sort of voodoo > > quack remedy for impotence. > > You STILL haven't come up with any valid source for that. You STILL haven't refuted it. > > http://www.harpseals.org/hunt/faqs.html > > You post information fron an activist site that supports YOUR view. > Not too clever are you? I gave you a site to check but you seem either > too scared or too lazy to check it out. 'ad hominem abusive: instead of attacking an assertion, attacking the person who made the assertion. ...' http://www.mdpme.com/FALLACY5.HTM Support your claim, if you're gonna, if you can. You can't. > >> Harvesting wildlife is the least environmentally damaging way to > >> get food. > > Enough said. It's BS.
From: pearl on 13 Mar 2007 10:42 "Ian MacLure" <ibm(a)svpal.org> wrote in message news:Xns98F1DF471EEF9ibmsvpalorg(a)216.196.97.131... > "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in > news:et0sac$poe$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net: > > > "Ian MacLure" <ibm(a)svpal.org> wrote in message > > news:Xns98EFBEF0556B2ibmsvpalorg(a)216.196.97.131... > >> > >> How dare you try to impose your cultural values on > >> Kanuckistan. The al-Qanadians have the same right to > >> their practices that any third world yahoo has. > > > > How dare you try to impose your 'cultural values' on seals. > > Anthromorphizing piece of walrus poo. > Seals have no culture! > Well they have more than Quebec but that > ain't sayin' much. Anthropocentric ignoramus. "My goodness they're cute!" Those are the words one usually hears at the first sight of a Harp seal pup. Hunted for centuries to feed families and boost local economies the seals have been at the center of controversy for years. Now, thanks to local efforts, (and modern transportation), they offer wildlife enthusiasts a chance to witness nature in an unforgettable setting. The Magdalen Islands, form a small archipelago located in the gulf of the St. Lawrence, north of Prince Edward Island, which is part of the province of Quebec. The ice floe that forms in the Gulf is one of the major birthing sites for the Harp seal, and provides us an extraordinary opportunity to watch and observe these amazing creatures closely. Mostly colonized by Acadians fleeing deportation in 1755, the islanders, known as les Madelinots, adapted their lifestyle to the sea for subsistence. In this trip, we will discover a beautiful and harsh environment, as well as the rich heritage of the people from "les Iles". Our adventure begins in historic Quebec City where we will meet. From Quebec City we take a short domestic flight to the islands to meet our local hosts. Once well prepared, helicopters will take us to the ice floes where the pups are born. Since their mothers spend 80% of the time in the water, the pups are easy to observe, and surprisingly free to show their unique personalities. There is something very special about being in such a desolate location closely surrounded by so much life. ....' http://www.eactours.com/adventureCanada.php?tripId=3
From: 10x on 13 Mar 2007 12:11
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:00:46 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote: ><10x(a)telu�s.net> wrote in message news:phlbv29ppf723or9qebur7nvfaf6itc4ug(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:53:36 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> >> wrote: >> >> ><10x(a)telu�s.net> wrote in message news:rk58v2ph2vkmn7t9b9une3ia7d66638trl(a)4ax.com... >> >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:02:24 -0000, "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message news:cNKIh.62340$Du6.1198(a)edtnps82... >> >> >> "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> >> >> news:esvdt6$67m$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> >> > "Chom Noamsky" <e(a)t.me> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:uwDIh.62113$Du6.116(a)edtnps82... >> >.. >> >> >> >> It's perfectly ethical, legal, humane, moral, and sustainable to harvest >> >> >> >> seals for fur and meat. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It is none of the above. >> >> >> >> >> >> That certainly was a compelling argument. >> >> > >> >> >If there is absolute necessity (for survival), it may be justifiable. >> >> > >> >> >This isn't. >> >> >> >> Could you please show some data to prove your statement. >> >> >> >> If folks stop producing food, then what do they eat? >> > >> >'Most of the meat is wasted and left on the ice. Some if it is >> >sold to fur farms and some is ground up into animal feed. A >> >few thousand seal flippers are sold for human consumption in >> >Newfoundland. There is also a growing black market demand >> >for the seal penis bone in the Far East as some sort of voodoo >> >quack remedy for impotence. >> >...' >> >http://www.harpseals.org/hunt/faqs.html >> > >> >> I'm sorry, that is as somewhat vitriolic and biased website. > >Not a valid argument. Show otherwise. Compared to what is published by the department of Fisheries and Oceans the information on that site does not reflect reality. take the � out of 10x(a)telu�s.net to email me |