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From: anonymous on 18 Sep 2008 14:00
""Among men and women who consulted primary care physicians, BMI and
particularly WC were both strongly linked to CVD and especially to
diabetes mellitus. Strategies to address this global problem are
required to prevent an epidemic of these major causes of morbidity and
mortality.""

Not completely accurate, 80 percent of the obese don't become diabetic.
Those who do have a genetic predisposition for it. Bmi and wc in the
normal range is advised to avoid other health risks however, such as the
cvd mentioned above.

Low levels of physical activity is equally linked to diabetes. Lack of
it and being over weight are the twin factors most common to all
diabetes and cvd. The lack of it is not because of the calories not
consumed for the most part but because of the changes at the cell level
that increase risk for the disorders.
From: anonymous on 18 Sep 2008 17:12
""Among men and women who consulted primary care physicians, BMI and
particularly WC were both strongly linked to CVD and especially to
diabetes mellitus. Strategies to address this global problem are
required to prevent an epidemic of these major causes of morbidity and
mortality.""

Not completely accurate, 80 percent of the obese don't become diabetic.
Those who do have a genetic predisposition for it. Bmi and wc in the
normal range is advised to avoid other health risks however, such as the
cvd mentioned above.

Low levels of physical activity is equally linked to diabetes. Lack of
it and being over weight are the twin factors most common to all
diabetes and cvd. The lack of it is not because of the calories not
consumed for the most part but because of the changes at the cell level
that increase risk for the disorders.

The reply:

""If that were true, the article would not have remained published in
Circulation without retraction."

Obviously the inaccuracy was in tying the assertion of the dsubject line
to the journal snip. It was incomplete and misleading as presented.

> ... , 80 percent of the obese don't become diabetic.

"If the obese were kept from premature cardiovascular deaths, all would
in time become diabetic."

This will require on your part evidence from an accepted journal. Too
many off the cuff assertions have been made to now accept claims without
support.

"Similarly not all smokers develop emphysema, dying off prematurely from
cardiovascular deaths however smoking remains the cause of it."

Request for supporting journal information as above. "Thus, overeating
remains the cause of type-2 diabetes.""

No, this is what in the data world is described as "garbage in, garbage
out". If the foundational assertions are wrong and unsupported then any
conclusion drawn from them are likewise.
From: Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD on 21 Sep 2008 21:55
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d974af3ad5688143?
>
> Well then: you snip; I snip.

While you remain unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD," you will
struggle hard at everything because you do not have GOD's help.

> Fair enough?

This would not be a matter of fairness but rather a matter of justice.

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