From: cathyb on

HCN wrote:

> "cathyb" <cathybeesley(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1134572907.693664.218730(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > HCN wrote:
> >
> >> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CsInf.14748$O05.228(a)fe09.lga...
> >> > HCN wrote:
> >> >> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:runnf.7413$Kf4.3591(a)fe08.lga...
> >> >>
> >> >>>alexr wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Which are..? please continue Mark...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/11/29/hiv-dissidents-continued/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-content/images/A_report_on_Eliza.pdf
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Read...al-Bayati's claims, then compare them to what the ME's report
> >> >>>actually says...then apply what the ME's report actually says to
> >> >>>al-Bayati's claims and you cannot escape the conclusion that Eliza
> >> >>>died
> >> >>>of AIDS related pneumonia.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you see the updated report? Since he was able to read the actual
> >> >> coroner's report, Dr. Bennett was able to see where al-Bayati really
> >> >> screwed up!
> >> >>
> >> >> http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-content/images/A_report_on_Eliza_Ver2.pdf
> >> >
> >> > Did al-Bayati think he could get away with this? I think so. He
> >> > understands the psychology of the JanD's of this world and knows that
> >> > these people will accept anything that trashes real medicine and never
> >> > change their minds, even when shown that the trashing was based on
> >> > gross
> >> > misrepresentations.
> >> >
> >> > I am coming to the conclusion that JanD, Maggiore, et al, are not
> >> > perpetrators, but victims of a form of brain washing.
> >>
> >> I would have too, except that I saw Maggiore post a review of her own
> >> book
> >> on Amazon.com on Oct. 29th. It is like she was trying to combat the bad
> >> publicity that was damaging book sales.
> >
> > I can't find it, and I'd really like to read it. As a parent, I'm
> > interested in how she's coping with the fact that her actions may have
> > led to her child's death. Frankly, I think I'd top myself rather than
> > write a book review.
> >
> > I'd be grateful if you could find the address,
>
> Go here:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967415306/ then click on "see all 45
> customer reviews":
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0967415306/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6165800-5791849?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155
>
> ... look down to Oct. 29th, which gives you this:
>
> 6 of 14 people found the following review helpful (the cut and paste
> from Amazon may not show very well in Usenet):
>
> What's More Dangerous Than Uninformed Opinions?, October 29, 2005
> Reviewer: Christine Maggiore (Los Angeles, CA USA) - See all my
> reviews
>
> Rather than present a cogent challenge to the referenced data in my
> book, Mr Sanchez calls the contents "dangerous" based on his uninformed
> conclusions about my daughter's death. Apparently believing the Los Angeles
> Times provides all the facts necessary to render judgment on the matter,
> Sanchez offers his expert opinion on a child he's never met, whose medical
> records he's never seen and without having examined any evidence pursuant to
> the case. Dear Mr Sanchez, before jumping to conclusions about what you
> think you know, please consider the inconvenient facts the LA Times left out
> of their articles posted in the News and Updates section of
> www.aliveandwell.org
>
> You may also wish to learn what the independent pathology report on
> the autopsy reveals before making further public statements about me and my
> family. In the meantime, let's reserve the book review page at Amazon for
> comments on the actual publications rather than your take on an author's
> personal tragedy.
>
> Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cathy
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
Thanks v. much.

She's indulging in a rather scary amount of denial, isn't she?

Cathy

From: HCN on

"cathyb" <cathybeesley(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1134600308.964184.259840(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> HCN wrote:
....snip for brevity..
>> Go here:
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967415306/ then click on "see all 45
>> customer reviews":
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0967415306/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6165800-5791849?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155
>>
>> ... look down to Oct. 29th, which gives you this:
>>
>> 6 of 14 people found the following review helpful (the cut and
>> paste
>> from Amazon may not show very well in Usenet):
>>
>> What's More Dangerous Than Uninformed Opinions?, October 29, 2005
>> Reviewer: Christine Maggiore (Los Angeles, CA USA) - See all
>> my
>> reviews
>>
>> Rather than present a cogent challenge to the referenced data in my
>> book, Mr Sanchez calls the contents "dangerous" based on his uninformed
>> conclusions about my daughter's death. Apparently believing the Los
>> Angeles
>> Times provides all the facts necessary to render judgment on the matter,
>> Sanchez offers his expert opinion on a child he's never met, whose
>> medical
>> records he's never seen and without having examined any evidence pursuant
>> to
>> the case. Dear Mr Sanchez, before jumping to conclusions about what you
>> think you know, please consider the inconvenient facts the LA Times left
>> out
>> of their articles posted in the News and Updates section of
>> www.aliveandwell.org
>>
>> You may also wish to learn what the independent pathology report on
>> the autopsy reveals before making further public statements about me and
>> my
>> family. In the meantime, let's reserve the book review page at Amazon for
>> comments on the actual publications rather than your take on an author's
>> personal tragedy.
>>
>> Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Cathy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
> Thanks v. much.
>
> She's indulging in a rather scary amount of denial, isn't she?
>
> Cathy
>

That seems to be the general consesus (okay, that may not be spelled right):
http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/12/10/maggiore-on-primetime-live


From: cathyb on

HCN wrote:
> "cathyb" <cathybeesley(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1134600308.964184.259840(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > HCN wrote:
> ...snip for brevity..
> >> Go here:
> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967415306/ then click on "see all 45
> >> customer reviews":
> >>
> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0967415306/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6165800-5791849?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155
> >>
> >> ... look down to Oct. 29th, which gives you this:
> >>
> >> 6 of 14 people found the following review helpful (the cut and
> >> paste
> >> from Amazon may not show very well in Usenet):
> >>
> >> What's More Dangerous Than Uninformed Opinions?, October 29, 2005
> >> Reviewer: Christine Maggiore (Los Angeles, CA USA) - See all
> >> my
> >> reviews
> >>
> >> Rather than present a cogent challenge to the referenced data in my
> >> book, Mr Sanchez calls the contents "dangerous" based on his uninformed
> >> conclusions about my daughter's death. Apparently believing the Los
> >> Angeles
> >> Times provides all the facts necessary to render judgment on the matter,
> >> Sanchez offers his expert opinion on a child he's never met, whose
> >> medical
> >> records he's never seen and without having examined any evidence pursuant
> >> to
> >> the case. Dear Mr Sanchez, before jumping to conclusions about what you
> >> think you know, please consider the inconvenient facts the LA Times left
> >> out
> >> of their articles posted in the News and Updates section of
> >> www.aliveandwell.org
> >>
> >> You may also wish to learn what the independent pathology report on
> >> the autopsy reveals before making further public statements about me and
> >> my
> >> family. In the meantime, let's reserve the book review page at Amazon for
> >> comments on the actual publications rather than your take on an author's
> >> personal tragedy.
> >>
> >> Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Cathy
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> > Thanks v. much.
> >
> > She's indulging in a rather scary amount of denial, isn't she?
> >
> > Cathy
> >
>
> That seems to be the general consesus (okay, that may not be spelled right):
> http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/12/10/maggiore-on-primetime-live

I found the whole tone of her review just a bit...off, I suppose. I
can't imagine, in the wake of the death of my child, bothering to sit
down to reply to an Amazon customer review of my book. It would appear
that denial is the only thing keeping her going. You have to pity her,
even while deploring her actions.

Cathy

From: HCN on

"cathyb" <cathybeesley(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1134622295.303416.49830(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> HCN wrote:
>> "cathyb" <cathybeesley(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:1134600308.964184.259840(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > HCN wrote:
>> ...snip for brevity..
>> >> Go here:
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967415306/ then click on "see all
>> >> 45
>> >> customer reviews":
>> >>
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0967415306/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-6165800-5791849?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155
>> >>
>> >> ... look down to Oct. 29th, which gives you this:
>> >>
>> >> 6 of 14 people found the following review helpful (the cut and
>> >> paste
>> >> from Amazon may not show very well in Usenet):
>> >>
>> >> What's More Dangerous Than Uninformed Opinions?, October 29,
>> >> 2005
>> >> Reviewer: Christine Maggiore (Los Angeles, CA USA) - See
>> >> all
>> >> my
>> >> reviews
>> >>
>> >> Rather than present a cogent challenge to the referenced data in
>> >> my
>> >> book, Mr Sanchez calls the contents "dangerous" based on his
>> >> uninformed
>> >> conclusions about my daughter's death. Apparently believing the Los
>> >> Angeles
>> >> Times provides all the facts necessary to render judgment on the
>> >> matter,
>> >> Sanchez offers his expert opinion on a child he's never met, whose
>> >> medical
>> >> records he's never seen and without having examined any evidence
>> >> pursuant
>> >> to
>> >> the case. Dear Mr Sanchez, before jumping to conclusions about what
>> >> you
>> >> think you know, please consider the inconvenient facts the LA Times
>> >> left
>> >> out
>> >> of their articles posted in the News and Updates section of
>> >> www.aliveandwell.org
>> >>
>> >> You may also wish to learn what the independent pathology report
>> >> on
>> >> the autopsy reveals before making further public statements about me
>> >> and
>> >> my
>> >> family. In the meantime, let's reserve the book review page at Amazon
>> >> for
>> >> comments on the actual publications rather than your take on an
>> >> author's
>> >> personal tragedy.
>> >>
>> >> Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Cathy
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> > Thanks v. much.
>> >
>> > She's indulging in a rather scary amount of denial, isn't she?
>> >
>> > Cathy
>> >
>>
>> That seems to be the general consesus (okay, that may not be spelled
>> right):
>> http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/12/10/maggiore-on-primetime-live
>
> I found the whole tone of her review just a bit...off, I suppose. I
> can't imagine, in the wake of the death of my child, bothering to sit
> down to reply to an Amazon customer review of my book. It would appear
> that denial is the only thing keeping her going. You have to pity her,
> even while deploring her actions.
>
> Cathy
>

Exactly. There seems to be a cognitive disconnect in all of this. I do
pity her... for lots of reasons, but she does bear quite a bit of blame for
her blind devotion to the small but vocal AIDS dissedent group.