From: cathyb on

HCN wrote:

> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:CsInf.14748$O05.228(a)fe09.lga...
> > HCN wrote:
> >> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> >> news:runnf.7413$Kf4.3591(a)fe08.lga...
> >>
> >>>alexr wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Which are..? please continue Mark...
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/11/29/hiv-dissidents-continued/
> >>>
> >>>http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-content/images/A_report_on_Eliza.pdf
> >>>
> >>>Read...al-Bayati's claims, then compare them to what the ME's report
> >>>actually says...then apply what the ME's report actually says to
> >>>al-Bayati's claims and you cannot escape the conclusion that Eliza died
> >>>of AIDS related pneumonia.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Did you see the updated report? Since he was able to read the actual
> >> coroner's report, Dr. Bennett was able to see where al-Bayati really
> >> screwed up!
> >>
> >> http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-content/images/A_report_on_Eliza_Ver2.pdf
> >
> > Did al-Bayati think he could get away with this? I think so. He
> > understands the psychology of the JanD's of this world and knows that
> > these people will accept anything that trashes real medicine and never
> > change their minds, even when shown that the trashing was based on gross
> > misrepresentations.
> >
> > I am coming to the conclusion that JanD, Maggiore, et al, are not
> > perpetrators, but victims of a form of brain washing.
>
> I would have too, except that I saw Maggiore post a review of her own book
> on Amazon.com on Oct. 29th. It is like she was trying to combat the bad
> publicity that was damaging book sales.

I can't find it, and I'd really like to read it. As a parent, I'm
interested in how she's coping with the fact that her actions may have
led to her child's death. Frankly, I think I'd top myself rather than
write a book review.

I'd be grateful if you could find the address,

Cheers,

Cathy
>
>
> >
> >
> >

From: PeterB on

cathyb wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > alexr wrote:
> > > aga, great job!!!
> > >
> > > Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
> > >
> > > We interview pathologist Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati who has just authored a
> > > report revealing that the child died of anaphylactic reaction to a
> > > prescribed antibiotic, and we speak also Dr. Andrew Maniotis from the
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago.
> > >
> > > http://breakfornews.com/my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=259
> > >
> >
> > AIDS baby Eilza Jane was infected by her mother when she breast fed her,
> > and died as the result of AIDS related pneumonia. al-Bayati's report,
> > when compared to the Medical Examiner's report, is shown to have several
> > significant misrepresentations.
>
> And according to Bennett, al-Bayati isn't above outright lying:

Cathy clearly knows a lot about lying. She used study references on a
condition completely unrelated to measles in trying to defend her
pro-pharma positions. She later claimed that 3million people
contracted measles the year before vaccine was introduced -- an
outright lie. She also said she didn't use religious condemnation in a
post in which she expressed a desire to see people who choose not to
vaccinate suffer the torments of hell.

PeterB

From: PeterB on

cathyb wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > alexr wrote:
> > > aga, great job!!!
> > >
> > > Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
> > >
> > > We interview pathologist Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati who has just authored a
> > > report revealing that the child died of anaphylactic reaction to a
> > > prescribed antibiotic, and we speak also Dr. Andrew Maniotis from the
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago.
> > >
> > > http://breakfornews.com/my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=259
> > >
> >
> > AIDS baby Eilza Jane was infected by her mother when she breast fed her,
> > and died as the result of AIDS related pneumonia. al-Bayati's report,
> > when compared to the Medical Examiner's report, is shown to have several
> > significant misrepresentations.
>
> And according to Bennett, al-Bayati isn't above outright lying:

Cathy clearly knows a lot about lying. She used study references on a
condition completely unrelated to measles in trying to defend her
pro-pharma positions. She later claimed that 3million people
contracted measles the year before vaccine was introduced -- an
outright lie. She also said she didn't use religious condemnation in a
post in which she expressed a desire to see people who choose not to
vaccinate suffer the torments of hell.

PeterB

From: PeterB on

cathyb wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > alexr wrote:
> > > aga, great job!!!
> > >
> > > Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
> > >
> > > We interview pathologist Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati who has just authored a
> > > report revealing that the child died of anaphylactic reaction to a
> > > prescribed antibiotic, and we speak also Dr. Andrew Maniotis from the
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago.
> > >
> > > http://breakfornews.com/my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=259
> > >
> >
> > AIDS baby Eilza Jane was infected by her mother when she breast fed her,
> > and died as the result of AIDS related pneumonia. al-Bayati's report,
> > when compared to the Medical Examiner's report, is shown to have several
> > significant misrepresentations.
>
> And according to Bennett, al-Bayati isn't above outright lying:

Cathy clearly knows a lot about lying. She used study references on a
condition completely unrelated to measles in trying to defend her
pro-pharma positions. She later claimed that 3million people
contracted measles the year before vaccine was introduced -- an
outright lie. She also said she didn't use religious condemnation in a
post in which she expressed a desire to see people who choose not to
vaccinate suffer the torments of hell. I wouldn't pay her much
attention.

PeterB

From: cathyb on

PeterB wrote:
> cathyb wrote:
> > Mark Probert wrote:
> > > alexr wrote:
> > > > aga, great job!!!
> > > >
> > > > Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
> > > >
> > > > We interview pathologist Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati who has just authored a
> > > > report revealing that the child died of anaphylactic reaction to a
> > > > prescribed antibiotic, and we speak also Dr. Andrew Maniotis from the
> > > > University of Illinois at Chicago.
> > > >
> > > > http://breakfornews.com/my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=259
> > > >
> > >
> > > AIDS baby Eilza Jane was infected by her mother when she breast fed her,
> > > and died as the result of AIDS related pneumonia. al-Bayati's report,
> > > when compared to the Medical Examiner's report, is shown to have several
> > > significant misrepresentations.
> >
> > And according to Bennett, al-Bayati isn't above outright lying:

Restored:

http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-content/images/A_report_on_Eliza_Ver2.pdf



"Al-Bayati says that such controls were not performed. It is
interesting to note that he quotes VERBATIM from the section which
mentions the use of controls but DELETED all reference to the use of
controls."




Oh, look. Bless his little cotton socks. Petey is copying Jan again. He
hasn't anything at all to say about the topic, so he's just having
himself a little personal attack sprinkled with lies.

>
> Cathy clearly knows a lot about lying. She used study references on a
> condition completely unrelated to measles in trying to defend her
> pro-pharma positions.

er, no.

> She later claimed that 3million people
> contracted measles the year before vaccine was introduced -- an
> outright lie.

A silly mistake, which I believe David Wright pointed out. I think my
reaction was "oops". Of course, Jan's the only other one on this board
who insists that when people make an error, they're lying. It's good to
know the sort of intellectual giant PeteyB is emulating.

>She also said she didn't use religious condemnation

I'm not even sure what "religious condemnation", so I'm fairly sure I
never said I didn't use it.

> is in a
> post in which she expressed a desire to see people who choose not to
> vaccinate suffer the torments of hell.

In which I said I wished I believed in hell so I could enjoy watching
the people who *lied* about vaccination burn there. I also said that
the people led astray by them were to be pitied, not that they should
"suffer the torments of hell".

Of course Petey knows this. He's merely following in Jan's footsteps,
and lying.

>I wouldn't pay her much
> attention.

Of course not. That's why he bothered to post this.

>
> PeterB