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From: Rowland McDonnell on 1 Sep 2008 07:22 JW <user(a)example.net> wrote: [snip] > Let's face it: when you get > really low, you're completely on your own anyway. Quite - that's sort of why I bother. This newsgroup didn't used to be a joke from the point of view of support. I don't see why it shouldn't move back to being supportive, though. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Tim on 1 Sep 2008 08:33 Rowland McDonnell wrote: > This newsgroup didn't used to be a joke from the point of view of > support. I don't see why it shouldn't move back to being supportive, > though. > > Rowland. > It would be a lot more supportive if you were not here bullying people and constantly talking down to them. The atmosphere here has degenerated noticeably since you have come back from your self imposed break.
From: Sasquatch on 1 Sep 2008 09:15 On 1 Sep, 13:33, Tim <tim...(a)letterboxes.org> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell wrote: > > This newsgroup didn't used to be a joke from the point of view of > > support. I don't see why it shouldn't move back to being supportive, > > though. > > > Rowland. > > It would be a lot more supportive if you were not here bullying people > and constantly talking down to them. > The atmosphere here has degenerated noticeably since you have come back > from your self imposed break. Sad but true Be gentle on yourself Simon
From: firemonkey on 1 Sep 2008 11:14 Sasquatch wrote: > On 1 Sep, 13:33, Tim <tim...(a)letterboxes.org> wrote: >> Rowland McDonnell wrote: >>> This newsgroup didn't used to be a joke from the point of view of >>> support. I don't see why it shouldn't move back to being supportive, >>> though. >>> Rowland. >> It would be a lot more supportive if you were not here bullying people >> and constantly talking down to them. >> The atmosphere here has degenerated noticeably since you have come back >> from your self imposed break. > > Sad but true > > Be gentle on yourself > > Simon The sad thing is that Rowland from the POV of having depression is not out of place here. It is his personality issues that cause problems . It is hard to able to help and be supportive, and indeed want to , when faced with someone who undoubtedly has problems but will think it ok to attack people on the slightest pretext. Engaging with someone whose idea of a reasonable interaction is that you concur with what he has to say and do not have a differing take on things is very frustrating. "I'm telling you that I'm right and you're wrong and that's that." sums it up very aptly. There is very little room in which to engage in a constructive dialogue with Rowland. It is a shame that he is not receiving much in the way of treatment as he obviously has problems the tackling of which would make it more likely that he is better able to engage with people here. That having been said i can see how frustrating it must be when as a mental health professional you are faced with someone who is undoubtedly highly intelligent but seems to have no willingness or insight as to how his behaviour impacts on himself and others. It is very hard to help someone like that and whereas we on UPSD can not stop him posting but killfile him if we choose; it is a different kettle of fish with the mental health professionals. If he has been as antagonistic with them and belligerent/pugnacious as he has here then it would be no surprise that he is seen as someone who is not only hard to engage with and help and support but who is seen as a potential risk to staff and other clients. I wonder whether somewhere like the Retreat in York could give him the help he needs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Retreat http://www.theretreatyork.org.uk/ -- I'm F.I.N.E *F*ucked UP *I*nsecure,*N*eurotic and *E*motional Just FINE thanks :) How are you?
From: Evil_Nigel on 1 Sep 2008 12:02
x-no-archive: yes On Sep 1, 4:14 pm, firemonkey <tim...(a)letterboxes.org> wrote: > If he has been as antagonistic with them and belligerent/pugnacious as > he has here then it would be no surprise that he is seen as someone who > is not only hard to engage with and help and support but who is seen as > a potential risk to staff and other clients. If you look, you should be able to find the text of letters sent to NHS bosses. > How are you? Fit (after my sunburn), Intrepid (fearless against bites and scratches), Normal (although you might think differently), Evil (definitely!) I'm FINE thanks. Evil Nigel |