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From: dh on 4 Aug 2008 17:57
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Goo wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, dh@. pointed out:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>rupie the soft, fruity maths whiz said, "I accept that some nonhuman
>>>animals who are raised for food on farms have lives which are such that
>>>it is better that they live that life than that they not live at all."
>>>
>>>But he can't say in what sense it's "better". "Better" necessarily
>>>implies a comparison - the word "better" is a comparative, of course -
>>>but the incoherent fruit can't say what it is that's being compared.
>>
>> Obviously Goo he feels it's better that they do experience
>>those lives than that they don't, even if your supposed
>>"state" of pre-existence might have some positive value,
>>somehow, as you certainly appear to be convinced that
>>it does. He probably feels that way even stronger if your
>>supposed "state" of pre-existence doesn't have any value,
>>Goo.
>
>Obviously, GOO, rupie can't give any meaning to "better".

What has been demonstrated is that you can't comprehend
what he means by it Goober, NOT that he can't give any
meaning.

>It's nonsense.

LOL! Only to someone who can't comprehend Goob, so
of course it necessarily must be to you who are clueless.

>He can't give any sense in which it's better.

He explained that he feels it's better for them to have
the experience of a decent life of positive value, than to
not live at all Goo. What you're incapable of comprehending
is WHY he feels that way because you don't see how life
could be worth living for anything, including yourself:

"Coming into existence is not a benefit to them: it does
not make them better off" - Goo

Now it's time for you to completely fail your own challenge
Goober. The challenge now put to you, is to attempt explaining
in which sense you believe it is NOT better for you to be
experiencing life. GO:

(Correct prediction: Goo has outstupided himself yet
again, and is defeated by his own challenge which he
is afraid to attempt to meet.)

>>>He's just blabbering away, incoherently, as usual.
>>>
>>>"Better" is a judgment. A judgment implies a judge. The judge must
>>>define the criteria, and the dimension on which he's judging. rupie the
>>>soft fruit can't do it.
>>
>> You do it Goo. Try explaining why you think experiencing
>>a life of positive value is never better than not having the
>>experience. GO:
>>
>>(Prediction: the Goober can not explain)
>
>I've explained that hundreds of times.

LOL!!! You have NEVER explained it Goober, because you can
not. Again, for the third time at least in this thread I challenge you to
try meeting your own challenge, and try explaining how you think
pre-existent "entities" prevent your existence from being better than
not existing. Go Goober, GO!!!:

>Anyway, "life of positive value" is just your wretchedly expressed
>bullshit.

Try thinking of a better way to express it Goo. GO:

>First of all, it's just wretched writing.

Try thinking of a better way to express it Goo. GO:

>Secondly, it's
>bullshit, because you don't care about the quality of life lived by
>livestock.

Try explaining how you think whether or not I care about
livestock has any impact on the value of life TO THEM
Goober. GO:

(Correct prediction: the Goober will fail to even attempt any
of the challenges put to him here, because he is by far too
clueless and inept...too inept to meet even his own challenges.)
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