From: Irene Carpe on
Hi All,

I am 77 years old and was diagnosed with underactive thyroid while in my
40's. Was on synthyroid for years but never felt quite well. Read on this
group about Armour thyroid medication so asked my physician's assistant if I
could switch to Armour. She agreed and started me out on 30mg. I felt good
but could not keep my eyes open during the morning so she kept increasing my
dosage until I could stay awake. Am feeling much better on the Armour but am
on a high dose; 120mg am and 120mg pm.


This year I went to my endocrinologist and he did blood work for low
adrenals, which did not show up in the blood work, but he said that I had
acute autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis. This is the fist I was told this.

Last week Friday I had an appointment with a dermatoligist to have a
pre-cancerous spot removed from my arm. The Monday before the visit I broke
out in a small rash over my arms and back. It was very itchy. I also broke
out in some itchy blisters on my elbows; these I have had for years along
with hives on my buttocks. The dermatologist looked at the rash and
blisters and took a biopsy of both blisters. She said she believes I am
gluten intolerant but will know for sure when she gets the results of the
biopsy.
When I avoid foods with gluten the rash clears up but comes out again if I
eat something with gluten. Needless to say I am trying to stay gluten free.
I go back to the dermatologist next week to have the stitches out and to
find out the results of my biopsy and to have the pre-cancerous spot
removed from my arm.

Gluten intolerance is another autoimmune disease and is common with people
who have thyroid problems. I have had this condition for years and had the
itchy blisters and hives but never the rash until this point. Must be I
reached the end of my tolerance of gluten.

Thought the rest of you thyroid people might want to ask for blood work to
see if you are gluten intolerant. Irene

From: Dee on
Hi Irene,

I agree with you about being checked for other auto-immune diseases such as
celiac disease if you have Hashimoto's. I was diagnosed with celiac first
(over 10 years ago); and Hashimoto's recently (which I know I've had for
many years). It does sound like you may have Dermatitis Herpetiformis, which
is treated by following a gluten-free diet. Do you have any digestive
symptoms, or other symptoms, of Celiac?

Did you also know that you should use only gluten-free lotions, shampoos,
toothpastes, etc? It seems extreme, and I wasn't as diligent about it
before, but I now make sure everything I touch (virtually) has no gluten in
it. It gets exhausting. : )

Here's a gluten-free forum I participate in occasionally (there is a
sub-forum for DH):

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/

Dee

"Irene Carpe" <ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:C4D1072A.BE3A%ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net...
> Hi All,
>
> I am 77 years old and was diagnosed with underactive thyroid while in my
> 40's. Was on synthyroid for years but never felt quite well. Read on
> this
> group about Armour thyroid medication so asked my physician's assistant if
> I
> could switch to Armour. She agreed and started me out on 30mg. I felt
> good
> but could not keep my eyes open during the morning so she kept increasing
> my
> dosage until I could stay awake. Am feeling much better on the Armour but
> am
> on a high dose; 120mg am and 120mg pm.
>
>
> This year I went to my endocrinologist and he did blood work for low
> adrenals, which did not show up in the blood work, but he said that I had
> acute autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis. This is the fist I was told
> this.
>
> Last week Friday I had an appointment with a dermatoligist to have a
> pre-cancerous spot removed from my arm. The Monday before the visit I
> broke
> out in a small rash over my arms and back. It was very itchy. I also
> broke
> out in some itchy blisters on my elbows; these I have had for years along
> with hives on my buttocks. The dermatologist looked at the rash and
> blisters and took a biopsy of both blisters. She said she believes I am
> gluten intolerant but will know for sure when she gets the results of the
> biopsy.
> When I avoid foods with gluten the rash clears up but comes out again if I
> eat something with gluten. Needless to say I am trying to stay gluten
> free.
> I go back to the dermatologist next week to have the stitches out and to
> find out the results of my biopsy and to have the pre-cancerous spot
> removed from my arm.
>
> Gluten intolerance is another autoimmune disease and is common with people
> who have thyroid problems. I have had this condition for years and had
> the
> itchy blisters and hives but never the rash until this point. Must be I
> reached the end of my tolerance of gluten.
>
> Thought the rest of you thyroid people might want to ask for blood work to
> see if you are gluten intolerant. Irene
>


From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on
in article C4D1072A.BE3A%ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net, Irene Carpe at
ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net wrote on 8/19/08 8:26 PM:

> Must be I
> reached the end of my tolerance of gluten.


it just looks that way on the face of it ... down deep you have other stuff
going on as your toddler tantrum was not handled correctly as a child and
people die this way.

in the alternative some people die peacefully, happy, safe, secure, warm,
while dreaming in their sleep.

Of course they are more flexible, supple, and limber then stiff, rigid,
brittle you right now ... which would happen to anyone so poorly treated as
you. It is not personal, no more then a hammer blister with hammer
accidents are personal. Stop hammering and the blistgers go away sort of
thing. Not that you have a hammer intollerance.


sumbuddie on da watchtower wear blind sea

:)

From: Irene Carpe on
Hi Dee,
Thank you for your reply to my being gluten intolerant. It is going to take
a while to get my bearing on things. My niece is celiac also and I spoke to
her the other day and she said she is going to have her thyroid
checked.Luckily I do not have any digestive problems. In fact the only
problem was the Dermatitis Herpetiformis which none of the medical people
ever told me was due to gluten intolerance. I have had to deal with the
itchy blisters and hives on my own. I found the most effective thing was
using Nivea Body Lotion with Vitamin E.


.. It was the only thing that took the itch out.

Once the rash broke out the gluten intolerance showed it's ugly head.

Thank you for your information and the site for a support group. Have been
looking for one to no avail. Was not aware that there is gluten free
toothpaste, lotions and shampoos. Guess I have a lot to learn about this
disease. Thank you for your help.
Irene


On 8/20/08 9:05 AM, in article DEUqk.8512$nu6.3920(a)edtnps83, "Dee"
<jlmacdougall(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Hi Irene,
>
> I agree with you about being checked for other auto-immune diseases such as
> celiac disease if you have Hashimoto's. I was diagnosed with celiac first
> (over 10 years ago); and Hashimoto's recently (which I know I've had for
> many years). It does sound like you may have Dermatitis Herpetiformis, which
> is treated by following a gluten-free diet. Do you have any digestive
> symptoms, or other symptoms, of Celiac?
>
> Did you also know that you should use only gluten-free lotions, shampoos,
> toothpastes, etc? It seems extreme, and I wasn't as diligent about it
> before, but I now make sure everything I touch (virtually) has no gluten in
> it. It gets exhausting. : )
>
> Here's a gluten-free forum I participate in occasionally (there is a
> sub-forum for DH):
>
> http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/
>
> Dee
>
> "Irene Carpe" <ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:C4D1072A.BE3A%ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am 77 years old and was diagnosed with underactive thyroid while in my
>> 40's. Was on synthyroid for years but never felt quite well. Read on
>> this
>> group about Armour thyroid medication so asked my physician's assistant if
>> I
>> could switch to Armour. She agreed and started me out on 30mg. I felt
>> good
>> but could not keep my eyes open during the morning so she kept increasing
>> my
>> dosage until I could stay awake. Am feeling much better on the Armour but
>> am
>> on a high dose; 120mg am and 120mg pm.
>>
>>
>> This year I went to my endocrinologist and he did blood work for low
>> adrenals, which did not show up in the blood work, but he said that I had
>> acute autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis. This is the fist I was told
>> this.
>>
>> Last week Friday I had an appointment with a dermatoligist to have a
>> pre-cancerous spot removed from my arm. The Monday before the visit I
>> broke
>> out in a small rash over my arms and back. It was very itchy. I also
>> broke
>> out in some itchy blisters on my elbows; these I have had for years along
>> with hives on my buttocks. The dermatologist looked at the rash and
>> blisters and took a biopsy of both blisters. She said she believes I am
>> gluten intolerant but will know for sure when she gets the results of the
>> biopsy.
>> When I avoid foods with gluten the rash clears up but comes out again if I
>> eat something with gluten. Needless to say I am trying to stay gluten
>> free.
>> I go back to the dermatologist next week to have the stitches out and to
>> find out the results of my biopsy and to have the pre-cancerous spot
>> removed from my arm.
>>
>> Gluten intolerance is another autoimmune disease and is common with people
>> who have thyroid problems. I have had this condition for years and had
>> the
>> itchy blisters and hives but never the rash until this point. Must be I
>> reached the end of my tolerance of gluten.
>>
>> Thought the rest of you thyroid people might want to ask for blood work to
>> see if you are gluten intolerant. Irene
>>
>
>

From: Dee on

"Irene Carpe" <ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:C4D254A5.BE69%ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net...
> Hi Dee,
> Thank you for your reply to my being gluten intolerant. It is going to
> take
> a while to get my bearing on things.

It does take some time to adjust. I'm still adjusting after more than 10
years. : )

>My niece is celiac also and I spoke to
> her the other day and she said she is going to have her thyroid
> checked.

It's a good thing you advised her. If she does have Hashimoto's, it will be
beneficial to find out sooner rather than later.

>Luckily I do not have any digestive problems. In fact the only
> problem was the Dermatitis Herpetiformis which none of the medical people
> ever told me was due to gluten intolerance. I have had to deal with the
> itchy blisters and hives on my own. I found the most effective thing was
> using Nivea Body Lotion with Vitamin E.
>
>
> . It was the only thing that took the itch out.

Hmm. I don't think I have DH - I only had a strange rash one time, I think.
BUT, I am itchy a lot. Of course, I'm gluten-free, so maybe I do have it at
this point, but don't break out in a rash because of my diet.
>
> Once the rash broke out the gluten intolerance showed it's ugly head.
>
> Thank you for your information and the site for a support group. Have
> been
> looking for one to no avail. Was not aware that there is gluten free
> toothpaste, lotions and shampoos. Guess I have a lot to learn about this
> disease.

There is alot to learn. Some people don't think lotion can cause a problem.
I'm not sure, honestly. I'm diligent because I was having so many health
problems, that I went strictly gluten-free with everything so that I could
eliminate any possible source.

>Thank you for your help.

Good luck. I hope you post back again. I'm interested in hearing how you
reached the dosage of 240 mgs of Armour. (My doctor wants me to stay at 60
mgs (!) because I'm only ~100 lbs - I don't think it's a large enough
dosage.)

Dee

> Irene
>
>
> On 8/20/08 9:05 AM, in article DEUqk.8512$nu6.3920(a)edtnps83, "Dee"
> <jlmacdougall(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Irene,
>>
>> I agree with you about being checked for other auto-immune diseases such
>> as
>> celiac disease if you have Hashimoto's. I was diagnosed with celiac first
>> (over 10 years ago); and Hashimoto's recently (which I know I've had for
>> many years). It does sound like you may have Dermatitis Herpetiformis,
>> which
>> is treated by following a gluten-free diet. Do you have any digestive
>> symptoms, or other symptoms, of Celiac?
>>
>> Did you also know that you should use only gluten-free lotions, shampoos,
>> toothpastes, etc? It seems extreme, and I wasn't as diligent about it
>> before, but I now make sure everything I touch (virtually) has no gluten
>> in
>> it. It gets exhausting. : )
>>
>> Here's a gluten-free forum I participate in occasionally (there is a
>> sub-forum for DH):
>>
>> http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/
>>
>> Dee
>>
>> "Irene Carpe" <ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:C4D1072A.BE3A%ircarpe(a)frontiernet.net...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am 77 years old and was diagnosed with underactive thyroid while in my
>>> 40's. Was on synthyroid for years but never felt quite well. Read on
>>> this
>>> group about Armour thyroid medication so asked my physician's assistant
>>> if
>>> I
>>> could switch to Armour. She agreed and started me out on 30mg. I felt
>>> good
>>> but could not keep my eyes open during the morning so she kept
>>> increasing
>>> my
>>> dosage until I could stay awake. Am feeling much better on the Armour
>>> but
>>> am
>>> on a high dose; 120mg am and 120mg pm.
>>>
>>>
>>> This year I went to my endocrinologist and he did blood work for low
>>> adrenals, which did not show up in the blood work, but he said that I
>>> had
>>> acute autoimmune Hashimoto's thyroiditis. This is the fist I was told
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Last week Friday I had an appointment with a dermatoligist to have a
>>> pre-cancerous spot removed from my arm. The Monday before the visit I
>>> broke
>>> out in a small rash over my arms and back. It was very itchy. I also
>>> broke
>>> out in some itchy blisters on my elbows; these I have had for years
>>> along
>>> with hives on my buttocks. The dermatologist looked at the rash and
>>> blisters and took a biopsy of both blisters. She said she believes I am
>>> gluten intolerant but will know for sure when she gets the results of
>>> the
>>> biopsy.
>>> When I avoid foods with gluten the rash clears up but comes out again if
>>> I
>>> eat something with gluten. Needless to say I am trying to stay gluten
>>> free.
>>> I go back to the dermatologist next week to have the stitches out and to
>>> find out the results of my biopsy and to have the pre-cancerous spot
>>> removed from my arm.
>>>
>>> Gluten intolerance is another autoimmune disease and is common with
>>> people
>>> who have thyroid problems. I have had this condition for years and had
>>> the
>>> itchy blisters and hives but never the rash until this point. Must be I
>>> reached the end of my tolerance of gluten.
>>>
>>> Thought the rest of you thyroid people might want to ask for blood work
>>> to
>>> see if you are gluten intolerant. Irene
>>>
>>
>>
>


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