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From: Ron B on 10 Jul 2008 12:37 Can you tell a stupid american (me) your agenda? Where do you live? Did you or do you have prostate cancer? What kind of help did you get? If you weren't a jerk all of the time...people might listen...uh, er...respect some things you say. (OK...forget respect.) There is no doubt that Bush, who even "I" refer to as a chimp...and his cohorts have hurt the perception of the U.S. in the world. More people dislike us in the world than ever before...I can't argue that...HOWEVER...tie that into PCa for me. About YOU. Are you here as a political activist, or can you answer these questions? Just tell us who you are, safire...other than what we already think.
From: safire on 10 Jul 2008 13:32 Ron B wrote: > Can you tell a stupid american (me) your agenda? Calm down. Where did I write that you are a "stupid american", or that Americans are stupid? Some of my best friends are Americans (or jewish, black, muslim, republican, bikers). I'm just responding - off topic; clearly marked that way - to false statements from Herr Kramer, someone who probably sleeps in uniform and gets off when looking at photographs of innocent civilians being killed. > There is no doubt that Bush, who even "I" refer to as a chimp...and his > cohorts have hurt the perception of the U.S. in the world. > > More people dislike us in the world than ever before...I can't argue > that...HOWEVER...tie that into PCa for me. I am responding to Kramer's assertion that fighting a war in Irag is doing the world a favor. Please read what that idiot says. There is no tie to PCa, which is why it's marked OT, unless of course the cancer cells have spread to his brain. Please review this group's history. Merely suggesting that treatment may not be worthwhile for low grade cancers triggers serial ferocious attacks from Leaky and Kramer and their underlings. You just can't say that on this board. Search for someone named "Sy". He was executed by Leaky c.s. because he decided to forego treatment. Jordan, obviously not a very smart guy, defends freedom of expression, provided you agree with what he says. Each time a newspaper writes something about a new PCa study published, he attacks the journalist claiming he or she doesn't know anything about the disease and is biased. Then, when you compare the scientific source with the newspaper article, it turns out his prejudice prevented him from understanding what he read.
From: Ron B on 10 Jul 2008 17:57 safire responded to me: "Calm down. Where did I write that you are a "stupid american", or that Americans are stupid? Some of my best friends are Americans (or jewish, black, muslim, republican, bikers)." 'Paranoia strikes deep...into your life it may creep.' "I" didn't say that you called me ANYTHING. I referred to myself as stupid, and as an American...I put the terms together and said 'stupid American.' The paranoia on your part was unnecessary. You added: "I'm just responding - off topic; clearly marked that way - to false statements from Herr Kramer..." It's charming how you refer to people by your 'less than hidden' sarcastic terms. NOT! See, that's an American slang thing where we say something obviously false but in a positive way...and then add a big 'NOT' after it to show we really didn't mean it. Do YOU do things like that where YOU come from? Where might that be? I could care less about anyone's politics. I worry about prostate cancer...a LOT. The gentlemen that you seem to ridicule with much glee...have been very helpful and supportive to many many folks including me...therefore, I listen to their thoughts and either accept or reject them as I am inclined. ANYONE can say ANYTHING here...and we usually accept it...UNLESS the person is a stranger who either is trying to make money off of the ill...or slips in and attacks various members without revealing their history. Again, we KNOW the background of everyone here...except YOU. That makes you just a stranger wearing a ski mask...and at an American gas station...late at night...that can get you killed. Here...it just gets you disliked. If you want to be helpful..and from time to time you DO let a little humanity slip through...try to be more forthcoming. Here in Chicago...some of MY best friends wear ski masks...of course, it's 10 below zero and snowing at the time. Best to all, Ron B.
From: Steve Jordan on 10 Jul 2008 18:24 On July 10, Ron B responded to "Safire." Ron, I've said elsewhere that such trolls lust after, have an addictive need for, whatever controversy they can generate with their vile presence. To respond to them is to give them what they want. Again: Don't feed the trolls. BTW, it is in Deutschland. Likely some pizza-faced kid. Regards, Steve J "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity." --Lazarus Long
From: Steve Kramer on 10 Jul 2008 18:38
"Ron B" <Gimel(a)webtv.net> wrote in message news:17165-487685B2-483(a)storefull-3313.bay.webtv.net... > safire responded to me: > "I'm just responding - off topic; clearly marked that way - to false > statements from Herr Kramer..." Holy Cow!!! He's still enamored with me?!?! Geez, I almost feel guily for having kill-filed him. Herr Kramer? .... hmmmmmmmmmmm... I like the sound of that. I am proud of my German roots. And, it shows respect. Please, someone, thank him for me. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Illegitimati non carborundum |