From: Radium on
Hi:

I've tried using a long list of anti-fungal agents for my athlete's
foot and jock itch infection. Fungi have infected my feet, my crotch,
the index and middle-finger of my right hand, and the thumb and thumb-
nail of my left hand.

I hardly wear any socks -- and when I do, I be sure to wash them with
lots of bleach and extremely-hot water. I wash all my clothes and
underwear with bleach and hot-water.

Also, I bathe every day. I use dial soap, and anti-fungal shampoo on
my hands, scalp, feet, underarms and crotch. I wash completely.

After shower I apply anti-fungal ointments to my infected areas. I
also take anti-fungal pills. The infection STILL hasn't gone. Despite
doing this for 5 years. Its only gotten worse!

The infected areas of my body are alway itchy and scaling. My feet
itch the worst.

Whenever my feet itch, I stand in the tub and let the hot water run
and wiggle my toes to let the hot water run between and under the
toes. Hot water gets rid of the itching temporarily. Must be careful,
cuz the same temp that relieves itch can also be painful. After the
hot water my feet feel fuzzy and are sensitive to touch but the itch
is gone, at least temporarily.

I wonder if its possible and pratical to gene-modify a virus to make
this virus selectively infect all known pathogenic fungi without
harming other organisms. If this worked, it would probably be the only
way to eliminate those nasty little mushrooms, once and for all!

However, I prefer not to kill the bacteria. I don't mind the company
of bacteria as long as they don't kill, seriously disable, or
permanently handicap me.

I am not a fan of anti-biotics. Even if the doc recommends them.

I actually like the pus that results from bacterial infections.

Just keep those pathogenic fungi away from me. I hate athlete foot,
ringworm and jock itch. These fungi are really hazardous and our
immune systems can't fight them. In addition to the extreme itching,
if these fungi enter your blood, they can spread to vital organs and
kill you. I've known individuals who have lost their nails to such
monsterous fungi. Some even end up with brain infections and septic
shock.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance on this matter is
greatly appreciated.


Thanks a bunch,

Radium

From: John Gentile on
On 2007-04-14 18:41:37 -0400, "Radium" <glucegen1(a)gmail.com> said:

> Hi:
>
> I've tried using a long list of anti-fungal agents for my athlete's
> foot and jock itch infection. Fungi have infected my feet, my crotch,
> the index and middle-finger of my right hand, and the thumb and thumb-
> nail of my left hand.
>
> I hardly wear any socks -- and when I do, I be sure to wash them with
> lots of bleach and extremely-hot water. I wash all my clothes and
> underwear with bleach and hot-water.
>
> Also, I bathe every day. I use dial soap, and anti-fungal shampoo on
> my hands, scalp, feet, underarms and crotch. I wash completely.
>
> After shower I apply anti-fungal ointments to my infected areas. I
> also take anti-fungal pills. The infection STILL hasn't gone. Despite
> doing this for 5 years. Its only gotten worse!
>
> The infected areas of my body are alway itchy and scaling. My feet
> itch the worst.
>
> Whenever my feet itch, I stand in the tub and let the hot water run
> and wiggle my toes to let the hot water run between and under the
> toes. Hot water gets rid of the itching temporarily. Must be careful,
> cuz the same temp that relieves itch can also be painful. After the
> hot water my feet feel fuzzy and are sensitive to touch but the itch
> is gone, at least temporarily.
>
> I wonder if its possible and pratical to gene-modify a virus to make
> this virus selectively infect all known pathogenic fungi without
> harming other organisms. If this worked, it would probably be the only
> way to eliminate those nasty little mushrooms, once and for all!
>
> However, I prefer not to kill the bacteria. I don't mind the company
> of bacteria as long as they don't kill, seriously disable, or
> permanently handicap me.
>
> I am not a fan of anti-biotics. Even if the doc recommends them.
>
> I actually like the pus that results from bacterial infections.
>
> Just keep those pathogenic fungi away from me. I hate athlete foot,
> ringworm and jock itch. These fungi are really hazardous and our
> immune systems can't fight them. In addition to the extreme itching,
> if these fungi enter your blood, they can spread to vital organs and
> kill you. I've known individuals who have lost their nails to such
> monsterous fungi. Some even end up with brain infections and septic
> shock.
>
> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance on this matter is
> greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks a bunch,
>
> Radium

I've never heard of a dermatophyte becoming a systemic infection. These
skin/hair/nail fungi are pretty limited in their area of infection.
Unfortunately the area they prefer has little blood flow and are pretty
hardy little buggers! It is difficult for oral antifungals to reach
them in concentrations high enough to kill them, and the therapy needs
to be give over a long period of time.
Have any of your infectious sites been cultured to see exactly what
fungus you have. It may be possible to have susceptibility testing to
anti fungals. It is possible the organism is resistant.

You probably need an infectious disease specialist.

--
John Gentile MS, M(ASCP)
Laboratory Information Mgr.
VA Medical Center
Providence, RI
yjgent(a)cox.net

From: JEDilworth on
How do you know it's a fungal infection? Have you had a culture? You may
be drying out your skin with all this hot water washing. You sound a bit
OCD about this. My father-in-law used to go nuts with his skin also. He
ended up with dry itchy skin just because of his paranoia. He showered
at least twice a day, sometimes more. The oil on your skin is there for
a purpose - to protect your skin. If you keep washing it all off with
heavy duty detergents (most soaps are really detergent), then there is
nothing to protect it. Use cooler water.

I would advise seeing a dermatologist. This could be some other type of
skin condition. Also, some systemic diseases manifest themselves as skin
conditions. If you've seen no relief for five years I think it's time to
bite the bullet and see a doc.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

"Radium" <glucegen1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176590497.471646.287680(a)d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi:
>
> I've tried using a long list of anti-fungal agents for my athlete's
> foot and jock itch infection. Fungi have infected my feet, my crotch,
> the index and middle-finger of my right hand, and the thumb and thumb-
> nail of my left hand.

From: Radium on
On Apr 14, 5:14 pm, "JEDilworth" <bactit...(a)nospamhortonsbay.com>
wrote:

> How do you know it's a fungal infection? Have you had a culture?

Yes.

> You may
> be drying out your skin with all this hot water washing.

I only use hot water on the feet when they itch. I don't use hot water
anywhere other than the feet.

> You sound a bit
> OCD about this. My father-in-law used to go nuts with his skin also. He
> ended up with dry itchy skin just because of his paranoia. He showered
> at least twice a day, sometimes more.

Thats really whacked; no offense. Shower twice a day? I shower at
most, once a day.

> The oil on your skin is there for
> a purpose - to protect your skin.
> If you keep washing it all off with
> heavy duty detergents (most soaps are really detergent), then there is
> nothing to protect it. Use cooler water.

I don't use soap all over, just in the aformentioned regions, and that
too, only in recommended amounts. After any shower, I always put
vaseline on my lips because they become chapped if I don't. Also, in
the shower, I don't use hot water. Just warm.

As for the hot water, I only use it on my feet. For my hands I apply
vaseline along with the anti-fungal ointmnet. The vaseline helps ease
the scaling and itching.

> I would advise seeing a dermatologist. This could be some other type of
> skin condition. Also, some systemic diseases manifest themselves as skin
> conditions. If you've seen no relief for five years I think it's time to
> bite the bullet and see a doc.

About the fungemia, I was discussing cases I've heard of. I most
likely don't have fungi in my blood, well, not yet. If I did, it would
show up in my recent blood test I took about a week ago.

My physician does say that I have a fungal infection on the parts of
my skin that are itching. Guess its time for a better doctor. Cuz I've
been following his recommendations for a loooooong time and nothing
has worked. For a short-time the infection went away, and the itching/
scaling stopped, but then it came right back -- very annoying!

Why don't they make vaccines for fungal infections? They do it for
viral/bacterial infections.

From: Radium on
On Apr 14, 7:39 pm, Larry Farrell <farrl...(a)isu.edu> wrote:

> There really wouldn't be any reason to genetically engineer a virus to
> attack the fungi, since viruses that do just that already exist.

Okay. So what aren't these viruses being used to fight off fungal
infections?

> However, little work has been done on those viruses, certainly none in
> the context of viral treatment for fungal infections.

Well, why not?

I sure could benefit from these viruses. Last time I checked, I am not
the only victim of these nasty pathogenic fungi.

Since all methods I've tried have only worked in short-term, I think
viral therapy is more promising for long-term treatment, then those
wussy-piece-of-kakaa antifungal medications which rapidly lose their
intended effects while maintaining their nasty side-effects [e.g.
liver damage]. In addition, these antifungal drugs may kill beneficial
organisms, just like anti-biotics kill off the vitamin-K-generating
bacteria in our colons.

It sure would be nice if a viral strain could be used to kill
pathogenic fungi. Release this virus and watch it spread as it devours
those satanic little mushrooms.