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From: Rod on 28 Jul 2008 12:29
Wherever you look, you see the term 'euthyroid'. Most of the time it is
used to mean 'with thyroid hormones levels in the reference ranges'.

But its etymology (below) clearly suggests that it actually applies to
those with good thyroids that work 'normally'. In my book, this is
categorically different to having a broken thyroid and taking thyroid
hormone tablets.

Time and again in 'the literature' medics and researchers fail to make
this critical distinction. Someone who has been hypothyroid, and most
especially someone who has been hypothyroid to a considerable degree
and/or for a long time, is fundamentally different to someone who has
never been hypothyroid.

At the absolute simplest, the majority of those who have suffered
hypothyroidism have some level of antibodies with whatever impact they
can have. They might have suffered (and even continue to suffer) from
low levels of iodine, selenium, magnesium, potassium, and goodness knows
what else.

And how many such sufferers actually do have thyroid hormone levels that
are close to the levels they once had? We can't even know this because
few have pre-illness thyroid test results to check against.

Time and again I have read a paper which talks of euthyroid without it
ever being clear if they mean:

A Those who have never had thyroid dysfunction;
B Those who have had thyroid dysfunction but are now within reference
range(s);
C A and/or B without distinction.

We need a word. Any suggestions? Is there already a useful word? Or do
we accept euthyroid and use another word for 'never had thyroid
dysfunction'?

The only one passed to me by partner is 'screwthyroid' - has the right
emotional quality but possibly not quite right. :-)

(Apologies to any hyperthyroid and other thyroid sufferers - I include
you but this post was getting rather wordy without adding you into every
sentence.)


Etymology

Coined between 1920 and 1925 from Greek 'eu' (good) + thyroid.

1. Having normal thyroid function.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
From: kgrhoads on 28 Jul 2008 14:20
On Jul 28, 4:29 pm, Rod <polygo...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Wherever you look, you see the term 'euthyroid'. Most of the time it is
> used to mean 'with thyroid hormones levels in the reference ranges'.
>
> But its etymology (below) clearly suggests that it actually applies to
> those with good thyroids that work 'normally'. In my book, this is
> categorically different to having a broken thyroid and taking thyroid
> hormone tablets.
>
> Time and again in 'the literature' medics and researchers fail to make
> this critical distinction. Someone who has been hypothyroid, and most
> especially someone who has been hypothyroid to a considerable degree
> and/or for a long time, is fundamentally different to someone who has
> never been hypothyroid.
>.....
>
> Time and again I have read a paper which talks of euthyroid without it
> ever being clear if they mean:
>
> A Those who have never had thyroid dysfunction;
> B Those who have had thyroid dysfunction but are now within reference
> range(s);
> C A and/or B without distinction.
>
> We need a word. Any suggestions? Is there already a useful word? Or do
> we accept euthyroid and use another word for 'never had thyroid
> dysfunction'?
>
> The only one passed to me by partner is 'screwthyroid' - has the right
> emotional quality but possibly not quite right. :-)
>
> (Apologies to any hyperthyroid and other thyroid sufferers - I include
> you but this post was getting rather wordy without adding you into every
> sentence.)
>
> Etymology
>
> Coined between 1920 and 1925 from Greek 'eu' (good) + thyroid.
>
> 1. Having normal thyroid function.
>
> --
> Rod
>
> Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
> onset.
> Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
> <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

Suggest the coinage of words from Latin and Greek roots is an
anachronism
in this day and age. Medical terminology is, in many ways,
horrendous.

So, parsing these:
> A Those who have never had thyroid dysfunction;
> B Those who have had thyroid dysfunction but are now within reference
> range(s);
> C A and/or B without distinction.

I suggest:
A - thyroid-normal
B - thyroid compensated
C - "euthyroid" -- since they've already ruined the word with misuse

As the hilly-billy philospher said (image hill-billy twang):
They is two kinda people in the world:
Them as can count
Them as cain't
and
Them as don't care.

So we relegate the old "euthyroid" to the "don't care" category
and define two new labels, eh?
From: Elizabeth on 28 Jul 2008 17:00
Rod,

I had to laugh a little at this. In a recent letter from my endocrinologist
to my primary doctor, the endocrinologist stated that I was now "perfectly
euthyroid" but that she would let me increase my Synthroid to help with my
low energy level. Ha.

I have heard myself saying that my thyroid levels are in the process of
being "corrected" with medication. A little wordy, but at least it implies
something wrong that needs help.

Elizabeth

"Rod" <polygonum(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:6f6af3F9oadvU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Wherever you look, you see the term 'euthyroid'. Most of the time it is
> used to mean 'with thyroid hormones levels in the reference ranges'.
>
> But its etymology (below) clearly suggests that it actually applies to
> those with good thyroids that work 'normally'. In my book, this is
> categorically different to having a broken thyroid and taking thyroid
> hormone tablets.
>
> Time and again in 'the literature' medics and researchers fail to make
> this critical distinction. Someone who has been hypothyroid, and most
> especially someone who has been hypothyroid to a considerable degree
> and/or for a long time, is fundamentally different to someone who has
> never been hypothyroid.
>
> At the absolute simplest, the majority of those who have suffered
> hypothyroidism have some level of antibodies with whatever impact they can
> have. They might have suffered (and even continue to suffer) from low
> levels of iodine, selenium, magnesium, potassium, and goodness knows what
> else.
>
> And how many such sufferers actually do have thyroid hormone levels that
> are close to the levels they once had? We can't even know this because few
> have pre-illness thyroid test results to check against.
>
> Time and again I have read a paper which talks of euthyroid without it
> ever being clear if they mean:
>
> A Those who have never had thyroid dysfunction;
> B Those who have had thyroid dysfunction but are now within reference
> range(s);
> C A and/or B without distinction.
>
> We need a word. Any suggestions? Is there already a useful word? Or do we
> accept euthyroid and use another word for 'never had thyroid dysfunction'?
>
> The only one passed to me by partner is 'screwthyroid' - has the right
> emotional quality but possibly not quite right. :-)
>
> (Apologies to any hyperthyroid and other thyroid sufferers - I include you
> but this post was getting rather wordy without adding you into every
> sentence.)
>
>
> Etymology
>
> Coined between 1920 and 1925 from Greek 'eu' (good) + thyroid.
>
> 1. Having normal thyroid function.
>
> --
> Rod
>
> Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
> onset.
> Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
> <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>


From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on 28 Jul 2008 22:08
in article 6f6af3F9oadvU1(a)mid.individual.net, Rod at polygonum(a)ntlworld.com
wrote on 7/28/08 9:29 AM:

> Wherever you look, you see the term 'euthyroid'

In the medical dictionary of nursing and medicine it says something like
this

euthyroid ..."characterized by normal activity (secretion) of the thyroid
gland"

eutrophia ... "a state of normal nutrition"

euthermy ... " the state of being tolerant of a wide range of temperature"

euthenics ... " the science of race improvement by regulation of the
environment"

then there is ...

euthanasia ... 1 "an easy death 2 "the painless induction of death in a
patient with an incurable disease or condition: called mercy killing or a
good killing."

so eu mean good at least in from the latin and old time religion ... still
cutting, poisoning and burning mind you after 2000 years ...

happy eu to you.

sumbuddie having a happy day

:)

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